I used a 6mm 1/4hex drive bit and a u-joint.
Luther
OK Don wrote:
It's more the principle of the matter - that the enginelooks complete
now, after being apart all summer.
If you're referring to the lower manifold to head bolts, I solved that
one years ago on the SDL - use a 1/4 socket set,
My HF compression tester had a fitting for OM 60x injector
At 08:22 PM 8/27/2008, you wrote:
Well, crap - I was planning to use my Harbor Freight compression
tester in the injector holes - some of those glow plug holes are near
to impossible to get that fitting into with the intake
For the 603 intake bolts, I bought a smap-on long 6mm all en socket
balldriver. Allows the allen to go in the bolt at an angle. Works
great! I have not broken the ball off yet.
At 09:15 AM 8/28/2008, you wrote:
OK Don wrote:
(We JUST got the intake manifold back on - it almost hurts my son
OK Don wrote:
(We JUST got the intake manifold back on - it almost hurts my son to
think about taking it off again.)
If you make the right tool it is a walk in the park. On my 2.5T I
couldn't remove the manifold at all without it. When I replaced the
delivery valves a month or so ago, I
John Robbins wrote:
If you want pics of the tool I made let me know, and I'll post them to
the list.
Tools are good. Let's see what you made.
Seems like for glow plugs Marshall recommended the Snap-On socket with built in
ball joint swivel.
Mitch.
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yea, post them
John Robbins wrote:
OK Don wrote:
(We JUST got the intake manifold back on - it almost hurts my son to
think about taking it off again.)
If you make the right tool it is a walk in the park. On my 2.5T I
couldn't remove the manifold at all without it. When I replaced the
It's more the principle of the matter - that the enginelooks complete
now, after being apart all summer.
If you're referring to the lower manifold to head bolts, I solved that
one years ago on the SDL - use a 1/4 socket set, cut a 6mm Allen
wrench to get a piece to make a bit that fits in the 6mm
If you're referring to the lower manifold to head bolts, I solved that
one years ago on the SDL - use a 1/4 socket set
That was the secret to getting the carbs out of my Merc 850.
That little socket and skinny shaft just slipped right in there.
I outfitted the boat toolkit with 1/4 sockets in
A matched set of 617 cost my dad $250. I can get a quote or give you
the number if you like.
Luther
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Luther has a bosch guy who rebuilds pumps good, I assume he does
injectors also. Which reminds me, I spent all that money rebuilding the
IP on my 2.5 turbo and
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D head job update
A matched set of 617 cost my dad $250. I can get a quote or give you
the number if you like.
Luther
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Luther has a bosch guy who rebuilds pumps good, I assume he does
injectors also. Which reminds me, I
Well, crap - I was planning to use my Harbor Freight compression
tester in the injector holes - some of those glow plug holes are near
to impossible to get that fitting into with the intake manifold on.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just know my
Yes - I'd like a quote to test, and repair if neccesary, 6 injectors
for 603.95 engine
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A matched set of 617 cost my dad $250. I can get a quote or give you
the number if you like.
Luther
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
There
http://www.arkansasfuelinjection.com/ Ask for Scott. As for shipping,
you can save shipping at least one way
Luther
OK Don wrote:
Yes - I'd like a quote to test, and repair if neccesary, 6 injectors
for 603.95 engine
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dad says to ship them to us and we'll bring them back next week...
Luther wrote:
http://www.arkansasfuelinjection.com/ Ask for Scott. As for shipping,
you can save shipping at least one way
Luther
OK Don wrote:
Yes - I'd like a quote to test, and repair if neccesary, 6 injectors
Well, crap - I was planning to use my Harbor Freight compression
tester in the injector holes - some of those glow plug holes are near
to impossible to get that fitting into with the intake manifold on.
The kit's full of fittings, you saying there isn't one for
those injectors? (The intake
I need to get a spare injector for these engines - too many unanswered
questions here.
(We JUST got the intake manifold back on - it almost hurts my son to
think about taking it off again.)
The kit's full of fittings, you saying there isn't one for
those injectors? (The intake manifold doesn't
We'll call them and see what they say ---
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dad says to ship them to us and we'll bring them back next week...
Luther wrote:
http://www.arkansasfuelinjection.com/ Ask for Scott. As for shipping,
you can save shipping at least
I wonder how injectors from a 617 NA or 616 engine would run in the
603? I have a few of those that I could easily swap for a test ---
I also remember that the heat shields/seals below the injectors were
burnt and deformed in two of the cyl. when we disassembled the engine
- probably another sign
OK Don wrote:
I wonder how injectors from a 617 NA or 616 engine would run in the
603? I have a few of those that I could easily swap for a test ---
They'll fit, but have different pop pressures and a different pintle
design. They would work great for testing, but you'll get better
Could also be a sign of excessive oil ingestion. Which were they, do you
remember?
You should probably pull all six injectors and have an injection shop check
them. A bad nozzle (squirts instead of spraying fog, for instance) will cause
excessive knock, white smoke, and poor fuel economy.
#1 is burnt - the center ring is about to fall off. #3 is heavily
carboned - on both sides. #6 is pancaked - towards turning in-side
out. The others all look good.
#2 for certain is missing, 1 and 3 are to a lesser extent.
The search for an new injector re-builder is on (my old one died a few
The insides of the per-chambers all looked OK. The older injector
swap would be only for diagnostic purposes, though I'm still not sure
if they are significantly different how much they'll tell us.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:21 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK Don wrote:
I wonder
Luther has a bosch guy who rebuilds pumps good, I assume he does
injectors also. Which reminds me, I spent all that money rebuilding the
IP on my 2.5 turbo and now you have it. Great.
OK Don wrote:
#1 is burnt - the center ring is about to fall off. #3 is heavily
carboned - on both sides.
It wont work, the threads are different, they will not thread into the
holes IIRC.
OK Don wrote:
The insides of the per-chambers all looked OK. The older injector
swap would be only for diagnostic purposes, though I'm still not sure
if they are significantly different how much they'll tell
Why do you think I bought it? It gets great mileage also :-)
The tires were coming apart - the ride/handling is great with the new Kuhmos.
Which reminds me, I spent all that money rebuilding the
IP on my 2.5 turbo and now you have it. Great.
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
There are three
I think the injectors in the 602, post 1990, are shorter than the '87
603 injectors. Would they likely fit otherwise?
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It wont work, the threads are different, they will not thread into the
holes IIRC.
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OK Don,
I just know my compression tester fitting for 617 via injector hole will
not work on 60x injectors, have to use glow plug hole. SO I assume the
threads are different
OK Don wrote:
I think the injectors in the 602, post 1990, are shorter than the '87
603 injectors. Would they likely fit
Yes, but you won't mistake the lifter clank for anything else!
Peter
On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:14 PM, OK Don wrote:
I figured a compression test was among the next steps. We've never
had coolant pressure problems - still don't. Good catch - we'll swap
#2 injector with another one and see if
Don;t think it would stop smoking and sound good after it was hot.
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you sure its not the bottom end?
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli,
Probably true ---
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but you won't mistake the lifter clank for anything else!
Peter
On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:14 PM, OK Don wrote:
I figured a compression test was among the next steps. We've never
had coolant
Did you do a compression test? Low compression will give you white
smoke at idle and cold, black under load.
You should also have the injectors checked, a bad one will do the
same thing. Quick and dirty check is to swap #2 with another one --
if the problem follows the injector, it's bad.
I figured a compression test was among the next steps. We've never
had coolant pressure problems - still don't. Good catch - we'll swap
#2 injector with another one and see if the missing follows it.
Would a sticky/faulty cam follower do the same thing?
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Peter
you sure its not the bottom end?
OK Don wrote:
This is the car that my son bought from a friend of ours, who got it
from Kaleb. It was idling rough, and blowing whitish smoke before it
got up to temp. Among other things, we found low compression in
cylinder 1. Pulled the head (a #17), saw the
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