Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Gun talk is just fine. -D > On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I remember some gun talk on here, is that still okay? > This is probably the least political gun possible, a Centaure black powder > muzzle loader. It was being sold on Guns America as a "Centaur

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So does my local gun shop have a good deal with their “Glocksparilla” deal? (We just celebrated “Gasparilla” this past weekend in Tampa. Big local thing.) Any Glock 26, 27, 19, 23, 17, 22 - w/Free Cleaning Kit $525 Cash OTD - Gen3 (Reg. Pckg Price: $590) $575 Cash OTD - Gen4 (Reg. Pckg Price: $6

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
bject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun So does my local gun shop have a good deal with their “Glocksparilla” deal? (We just celebrated “Gasparilla” this past weekend in Tampa.  Big local thing.) Any Glock 26, 27, 19, 23, 17, 22 - w/Free Cleaning Kit $525 Cash OTD - Gen3 (Reg. Pckg Price: $590) $575 Cash

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I don’t really have a desire to own a handgun, but if I did I have always considered a Ruger Mark IV. Yes, I know it’s a .22 pistol, but I’m not interested in something for personal protection, just a target pistol or something to plink with. -D > On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Curt Raymond w

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I own many hand guns Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don’t really have a desire to own a handgun, but if I did I have always > considered a Ruger Mark IV. Yes, I know it’s a .22 pistol, but I’m not > interested in something for perso

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Handguns are not a topic I care to broach at home. Wife had a very unfortunate incident when she was a kid where her father was accidentally shot with a handgun that was improperly stored in an overnight bag. I know it was an accident and preventable, but it was pretty terrifying to her as she

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Personal protection is a necessity in every area. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Handguns are not a topic I care to broach at home. Wife had a very > unfortunate incident when she was a kid where her father was accidentally > shot wit

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
;ve held up well... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List Cc: Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun I don’t really have a desire to own a handgun, but if I did I have always considered a Ruger Mark IV.  Yes, I know it’s

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Hopefully everyone who owns or enjoys guns and shooting are NRA members. The monthly magazine members get has a full page column called "The Armed Citizen", It tells 8-12 stories about people who use guns to defend themselves or their property. Sometime it just take the presence of a gun whi

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun So does my local gun shop have a good deal with their “Glocksparilla” deal? (We just celebrated “Gasparilla” this past weekend in Tampa. Big local thing.) Any Glock 26, 27, 19, 23, 17, 22 - w/Free Cleaning Kit $525 Cash

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
et him do an action shoot that involved running from station to station with a loaded AR. He couldn't see why they had a problem with it. -Curt From: Larry Turner via Mercedes To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Cc: Larry Turner Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
And now we are heading down the political road. I have a gun within reach loaded and ready to go all over the house. Kid knows not to touch it or he will die. A locked up gun does no good. Proper training is the key. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 30, 2017 at 3:37 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Personal protection is a necessity in every area. > It's like a fire extinguisher or seat belt. You probably won't need it today, or even this year, but if you don't have one every day, you won't have it when

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun And now we are heading down the political road. I have a gun within reach loaded and ready to go all over the house. Kid knows not

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 30, 2017 at 3:30 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > As a result I defer to her concerns about having a handgun in the house. > It’s easy to understand why it would freak her out. It’s not like we live > somewhere that personal protection is a necessity. If we lived in a rura

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I tend to think $500 for a Gen3 or $550 for Gen4 is an OK price. http://palmettostatearmory.com/firearms/handguns.html?manufacturer=12 Considering there's no shipping or transfer fees, $25 more with a free cleaning kit isn't bad. If you don't like/need the cleaning kit, will they substitute an e

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Absolutely. My kids have all had the in-depth NRA sanctioned handgun training and range time. One of them enjoyed it, the other didn’t, but they both got it. Even though they won’t have the chance to “engage” here unless I’m involved, they know how to properly handle a firearm and render it s

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread MG via Mercedes
atic thats a better gun. I made grips for that one out of soft pine while I was in high school, surprisingly they've held up well... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List Cc: Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun I d

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
couldn't see why they had a problem with it. -Curt From: Larry Turner via Mercedes To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Cc: Larry Turner Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun you're not alone - at least at my range where traditionalist like y

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Atta boy Kaleb!! Living life the Boy Scout way - always prepared. ;-) Larry On 01/30/2017 6:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: And now we are heading down the political road. I have a gun within reach loaded and ready to go all over the house. Kid knows not to touch it or he will

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun And now we are heading down the political road. I have a gun within reach loaded and ready to go all over the house. Kid knows not to touch it or he will die. A locked u

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
When I was being trained to go to the sandbox, one of the "capstone" events (state-side, there was more training "over there") was shooting and moving from station to station, shooting single hand (strong hand), two handed, and then single hand (weak hand, left hand in my case) while walking, ru

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-30 Thread clay via Mercedes
This boy must be another scout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkFyvmnWggE clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei retired models- 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun Yeah, there are those types at all ranges.  Our range requires people shoot at targets and all rounds must hit the berm or risk expulsion. We had an incident a couple of years ago when a ricochet hit someone or almost hit someone

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
th a loaded gun, they shoot 5 shots, drop the magazine, run and then install a new magazine. Dude has become much more reasonable now... -Curt From: Max Dillon To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun When I wa

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-31 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 30, 2017 at 7:28 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > I think the NRA is OK as an advocacy organization even separated from the > political aspect of it. The NRA was founded in 1871 by military officers, and the chartered purpose was to "promote and encourage rifle shooting on

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-01-31 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 30/01/2017 5:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: And now we are heading down the political road. I have a gun within reach loaded and ready to go all over the house. Kid knows not to touch it or he will die. A locked up gun does no good. Proper training is the key. better hope no

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-02-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
unless mfrs. provide technology for fingerprint ID on the trigger. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 30/01/2017 5:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >> And now we are heading down the political road. I have a gun wit

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-02-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
There are some pistol safes that provide pretty-fast to access and a degree of security, like SpeedVault: https://www.amazon.com/s?field-keywords=SpeedVault On body carry is best but maybe uncomfortable at home. The SpeedVault (I prefer the pushbutton over fingerprint version) holds a full size p

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2017-02-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I can't speak to the psychological aspects but you may want to check out USCCA if your concerns are legal and financial: https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Larry Turner via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:08 PM > > that's a great way to think ab

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Fix your link - it’s got a run on. Sounds cool. -D > On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Last weekend we went to "The Ancient Ones of Maine" gun show. Its mostly > focused on primitive or at least old timey guns. I had a bad time with my > modern in-line muzz

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Blast! Forgot to make the post plain text, for some reason the list and Yahoo don't get along unless I do. https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4713/39622927395_a2e72a0d88_b.jpg On Saturday, March 3, 2018, 9:22:50 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Fix your link - it’s got a run on.

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-04 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Nice! Gun terms: I thought the stock touched your shoulder and the forearm runs along the barrel, so this rifle has a half-stock forearm? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Very nice rifle! On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Last weekend we went to "The Ancient Ones of Maine" gun show. Its mostly > focused on primitive or at least old timey guns. I had a bad time with my > modern in-line muzzle loader last fal

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-04 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
cedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 6:39 PM To: Mercedes List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun Blast! Forgot to make the post plain text, for some reason the list and Yahoo don't get along unless I do.

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Correct. In the case of the Kentucky rifles (and many other guns for that matter) the stock included the forearm and continued to the end (or nearly the end) of the barrel. In the case of the Hawken the forearm stops part way down the barrel. I was also wrong about the dates for the Hawken broth

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
t materials and engineering. T/C makes some very good stuff. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 6:39 PM To: Mercedes List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun Blast! For

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-04 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
After my wife rec'd her Nursing License and started work around 1991 the 1st thing she bought (for me) was a Hawken 50 Cal by Conn Valley.  It was a gun I always wanted and I guess I talked about it a lot.  Anyway, I really like it but have never fired it.  I suspect it works as it should thoug

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
There are 3 companies who sell side locks from traditional patterns. You can always build one. Regarding the wet powder, I think you said you did use one of the finger cots to cover the end of the barrel. When I worked with a bunch of filipinos, I'd tease them about the finger cots being Fil

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Hi Larry, CVA is an interesting company, they rode the black powder revival of the late '70s producing a number of different variants. They went bankrupt in the late '90s and reformed under the name Black Powder Industries (BPI) which is owned by Dakar of Spain who made a lot of the CVA guns.

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

2018-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It definitely came from the primer end (the wet powder gun is an inline not a sidelock) as the powder closest to the bullet was dry while the powder closest to the primer was wet. I made a blog entry on it: http://curtsotherblog.blogspot.com/ which was interestingly one of my most controversial

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun prastic

2017-01-30 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
ilto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun No idea. I think I'm probably a bit of a weirdo in the gun world (or any world I suppose) in that I d

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun day!

2020-08-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Umm, make sure that you don't put it down in the weeds, you might not find it again! Otherwise, looks like anice firearm. On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 4:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My Browning Silver arrived today. Overall I'm pretty pleased with the > process, I

Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun day!

2020-08-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
LOL, I hadn't thought off that. It needs a remote finder... ;) -Curt On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 1:58:55 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Umm, make sure that you don't put it down in the weeds, you might not find it again! Otherwise, looks like anice firearm. On Tue, Aug 11, 2020