I remember we had a beta version of a MC Standalone Builder in June
2011. Is there any new or final version and I did miss it?
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to use something like "cMCStandaloneSettings" in the future
to avoid such conflicts.
The second non-running standalone, which throws the same error message,
does *not* have such conflicting "cRevStandaloneSettings", in fact,
there are none at all, having seemingly disappeared later somehow.
To sum it up: About four hours for the first two explorations of our new
Standalone Builder, some insights - including looks at the structure of
the scripts - and at least one really working standalone.
All in all a positive achievement.
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;4.6" instead of "4.6.1". Should this be the cause for the above
quoted error message "Standalone origin mismatch"?
This is all I can report at the moment. I will continue to look more
closely into the matter, but it seems to me we need a first update.
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From the traffic on the livecode lists I see that Richard Gaskin, who
apparently did not notice my post on the Metacard list, is back.
Richard,
could you shed some light on my question below?
Thanks in advance!
Wilhelm Sanke
I had written on June 10:
On March 29, 2011, Richard Gaskin had
Is it still too early to ask or could you tell us when the new
standalone builder could be released?
We are thankful for your commitment to manage this task.
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 05:54:53 -0700, Kevin Miller wrote
My offer was to continue to support your capability to keep your IDE up to
date by making it possible to continue to integrate engines and new
features
if you chose to do so. To that end we provided complete details of what is
required to
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 05:53:58 -0700, Klaus on-rev wrote:
> and that we needed one and a half year to build a new MC standalone
builder.
I don't think that I am talking/writing chinese, do I, Wilhelm?
For the last time:
1. It was not too difficult to create the standalone builder.
2. RunRev su
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 04:00:15 -0700, Kevin Miller wrote:
On 11/04/2011 10:46, "Wilhelm Sanke" wrote:
> So much for the - hopefully lifelong - relationship between Livecode
> engines and the MC IDE.
Well I certainly never said lifelong :) But hey, we've kept up our bargai
ee to go on using the MC IDE if
>you wish.
Thanks Kevin, you really understand this need.
So much for the - hopefully lifelong - relationship between Livecode
engines and the MC IDE.
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discussion in thread "[MC_IDE] Quick Poll".
Here is the text of Richard's historic message from the Livecode-dev
archives:
Building standalones of larger stacks
Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com
Tue Nov 11 11:41:22 CST 2003
Wil
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, J. Landman Gay wrote
On 3/31/11 12:12 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
Didn't you just state that the build process has been moved into the
engine, so - again - why maintain the protection of the Rev standalone
builder?
The actual building is done in the engine
know which other members got similar messages, but
that is what he promised to me at least.
We might find these messages in the old archives.
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at correct?).
The reasons for that are many - and I will not elaborate them here again.
I will not rule out that at some point in the future I could switch over
to Livecode altogether, when a level of maturity has been reached that
will make working with
Richard wrote:
On 3/29/11 11:24 AM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
> > Could you possibly point out where we could find this "necessary info"
> > from Oliver Canyon, if it was available it surely escaped me?.
This and
> > the difficulties of Klaus - there are other
d mobile development could follow later if
really needed.
--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World
LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
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I am somewhat late in answering the poll and will post it both to the
Yahoo-MC list and the Runrev Metacard list.
Ken Ray schrieb:
I'd like to take an informal poll to get an idea of how many people are
using the MC IDE, and to what extent. So if you could just reply to this
email with your an
Hi Klaus,
I am sorry to hear about your troubles and your personal situation and
wish to express my sympathy to you and for your valuable work for the
Metacard and Rev community during many years.
Given your innate strength and resilience, I hope and think that you
will soon recover and reac
object in a group, the Control Browser immediately switches to
display all group objects and the selected object stays selected (WindowsXP,
Metacard/Rev version 3.5).
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to our IDE, we need
to set the property
"cREVKeepDevelopmentProperties"
in our equivalent of stack "RevstandaloneSettings" namely in our "Standalone
Builder".
Unless, of course, the whole thing will be resolved b
dalone" from the "Runtime" folder - or delete
it completely - this has no longer an effect on standalone building.
Hope this is correct and helps?
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true.
I have responded to Oliver Kenyon's comments directly and as a newly
added comment to bug report #2217. See the address Richard provided above-
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DevelopmentProperties of this stack to true".-
I will respond to the comments of Oliver Kenyon, and I like to notice that our
present discussion has now produced first results.
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dded two years later
"Comment #8 From Wilhelm Sanke 2006-04-01 03:41:37 [reply] ---"
Nothing has been resolved up to now.
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1 second!
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ev IDE looks for "development properties" even in the
case that none are existent.--
I sincerely hope that the Rev developers will resolve such problems in
the near future, and I also hope very much that standalone building with
the Metacard IDE will not be effected by the new procedures announced
for Rev version 4.
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ughly 95 %
percent of my development in the Metacard IDE.
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nks first to Richard Gaskin and now to Klaus Major for
their commitment to preserve and further develop the MC-IDE.
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cratch.
These latter "gradient tools" do not rely on the new Rev 3 features, but
can be used with any version of Metacard.
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with tab "Image" as activated, but with the text
of tab "Snapshot".
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Klaus Major wrote:
Another question: Is there a way to start the 3.0 engine inside the
MC IDE and coming up as "Metacard" (like it was possible with earlier
versions)? After I rename the "Revolution" file deep down in the OS
bundle it refuses to start.
You will also have to change some stri
Klaus Major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What errors/warnings do you get?
But I will also take a look a the appropriate "open" scripts i
Not necessary anymore! I found out that the legacy stacks got corrupted (that
was one of the error messages) while I transferred them with a firewire
connec
e deep down in the OS bundle it
refuses to start.
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Jacqueline wrote:
Good point, this has bothered me for a long time but I've been too
busy to look at it. I just tried a simple fix which seems to work, but
it needs testing. In the stack script of the Font Chooser, there is a
"mouseup" handler. It has a switch structure. If you add the "refres
ginally selected and saved
"Arial".
Seems we need an overhaul of the Font Chooser.
Sorry to cause extra work for the authors of the Font Chooser, who have
devoted so much of their valuable time to produce a modern IDE.
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s, the
Revolution and the Metacard IDE.
The consequence for users that primarily work with the Rev IDE - but
wish to access Metacard files once in a while - would be to rename their
Rev engine to "MC.exe". This works fine within the Rev IDE.
Regards,
Wilhelm Sanke
<
my studio
license?
Regards,
Matthias
What you need is a file named "Standalone" which is used instead of the MC
engine to build standalones.
You can find that file in the "Runtime" folder (at least of the Rev Enterprise version,
but maybe with "Studio", too?)
gedata
processing so far.
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th the searchstring colored)
along with their entry addresses, of which the first is displayed as a
complete help entry. Thus cross-references could be detected that
possibly were not envisaged by the authors of the help files.
I mention this only to point out different possible search approache
een size, real size) can be changed any time - or "hide
controls" and "show controls" can be applied - without interrupting the
show.
It is also possible to change the "display time" of the image during a
slide show by adjusting the slider control in the bottomright corner.
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mory usually is short, I think it would not
hurt to mention this fact again.
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you use button "sample
image - five sizes" of the test stack, which stores the image contents
as text-of -image data."
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On Tue, 29 May 2007, Tariel Gogoberidze wrote:
1) Wilhelm Sanke wrote excellent stack "SearchDocs XML 2.6.1.mc" a
while ago.
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia/Screenshots.htm
Unfortunately it can process only pre vs 7.x Rev documentation (in
operates on vs 2.6.1 to be precise) but
rimposed images, the underlying image will appear in the transparent
areas, thus producing a new image that can then be saved or exported as
a new non-transparent image.-
The current "Imagedata Toolkit 2" is still available - for those
interested to experiment with
snapshot of the rect of the image against a white background.
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adata
add 1 to counter
put numtochar(255) into char counter of adata
end repeat
set the alphadata of img x to adata
end mouseUp"
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I ran the stack again in Rev 2.7.4. Nothing unusual happened, so the Rev
Ide is not the culprit.
Seems to be a rare instance of a "spontaneous creationist phenomenon"
that according to philosophers like Schopenhauern and others ("no effect
without a cause" and " even no real *free will* , but
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Chipp Walters wrote:
All I can think of is you're using 'delete stack' somewhere. As you
know, it
closes a mainstack, but really deletes substacks.
-Chipp
Thanks for the response. The matter remains as mysterious as before.
I checked all control, card, and stack script
e possible
cause of it? This is on Windows XP.
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w".
First click into the image to choose a color value, then apply one of
the three fun-tastic options. These options can be applied repeatedly.
"Fun-tastic colors" are a variation of the "duplicate colors" options
available from the menu of the same button, but more rewarding. Experiment!-
Again my best wishes for the holidays and a Happy New Year!
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ether with the Rev IDE and then
sends "revloadlibraries" from its preopenstack and preropencard handlers
(which are located in group "revlibraries") Besides other things and
setting the paintcompression, "revloadlibraries" also inserts front and
bac
engine
This handler is also added to each standalone.
(see my post from Thu, 02 Nov 2006 to this list).
Other kinds of compression pertaining to images are not mentioned in the
docs.
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ools" and therefore at first comes across the identical
substack in "mctools" and then deletes both identical substacks.
The only solution I have found is to move stack "stack components" out
of "mctools" and transform it to be
stack the label of button "Stack Name"" (button
"delete") and
"delete stack "mysubstack" of stack "mystack"" (message box)
should be the same.
Question: Should we try to remove the ambiguity of the "delete" button
in stac
6.6. with IDE version 2.6b 11. I looked
also at the 2.7.1 IDE: The script of button "delete" is the same as in
2.6b11.
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("original" at the time the image was imported).
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sion should be set to RLE.
However, the moment you change the imagedata of that image, the
paintcompression will be the global one.
And, you can reset the global paintcompression any time you wish, for
example via MSG.
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raries" and its handler
"revLoadLibraries":
"on revLoadLibraries
global gRevSmallAppIcon,gRevAppIcon
local tBtn,tLine
set the paintCompression to "png" -- match the engine
...
..."
This handler is also added to each standalone.
Best,
Wilhelm Sanke
<ht
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
For the above points there are no differences between Rev and MC, but
- The format of the "text of image" property is different in Rev
and MC - tested both in stacks and standalones.
Rev sets the default paintC
eing added to the Rev standalone that allows proper
handling of the "text of an image"?
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ing on when you have looked at the card or stack
script and then hide the script editor.
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o the detailed results of my last post of
thread "Speed differences between MC and Rev (problem area nearly found)".
You can test this in both IDEs for yourself using stack
<http://www.sanke.org/Software/MC-Rev SpeedTest-BZ.zip>.
The ending "BZ" denotes that I am go
7 filters are provided which could be useful for
background patterns: "fine emboss", "contours", three variants of
"lithography", "gray relief", and "red tint"). An external is not needed
here.
All modifying effects can be used successively,
nerally 3 seconds slower (33 %) when the
imagedata handling is included in the measurement. There is also an
additional interference from the Rev IDE.
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e text of the field is indeed identical in all Rev and MC
stacks and standalones, meaning
that the speed differences between MC and Rev are caused by a different
handling of "imagedata"!
It now remains to be found out which script
th a peak of 2165 milliseconds being the slower one.
You can download the test stack from here (2 MB because of the embedded
picture and the compressed imagedata to enable reset):
or type
go URL "http:/www.sanke.org/Software/mc-rev_speed_test.rev"
in your message box.
Best regards,
voluminous doctoral dissertation on my desk).
I will continue the discussion in about a week and thank all of you in
the meantime for your interest in this thread.
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essages frontscript
if pTarget is empty
then put the long id of the target into pTarget
put revTargetStack(pTarget) into tStack
put the defaultStack into tDefaultStack
set the defaultStack to tStack
if the mode of stack tStack is not 0
then click
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Dave Cragg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote:
The people of Edinburgh and the area to the south east did fight with
the Angles of Northumbria. But these were neither Picts nor Scots.
They were Britons who spoke what today would be recognised as Welsh.
Interestingly, these batt
when we sometimes also speak of Anglo-Saxons and
Anglo-Saxon languages.--
==
Now to the speed differences:
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006, Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> had
written (Subject: Re: [ANN]: Imagedata Toolkit (beta) released):
Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
>> (Remar
the image horizontally, vertically,
and 90 degrees, "skew", "shift", and "shrink" for other spatial
deformations, "refractions" to produce a series of decreasing images
inside the image, "glassy reflections" with various density options,
"
Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote:
The only thing I can think of is that Rev now requires a registered
and licensed version on the drive before the engine will run. If you
haven't installed Revolution and licensed it first, other IDEs may not
work. Now technically, the MC IDE (or any other) is supp
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
I tried to transfer the Metacard IDE and a stack from my G4
Powerbook to a second, but very much faster G4 Powerbook to see the
speed differences for scripts in the stack. Both Powerbooks run with
OS 10.3.9. I used a USB-stick to put the files
rights for
installing new programs? And how could I overcome that?
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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ge manipulation. Experimenting with imagedata I came across
a number of new solutions for scripting functions, which I will also use
to improve my present Colorpattern Toolkit.
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m some time ago (two years or so?) and had
reported this on this list.
What are the opinions for an optional inclusion of the whole Icon stack?
It would add another 500 KB to a standalone.
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I remember the new
"Media" brand of Revolution was mentioned as one reason to introduce a
restricted player policy(?). We do not yet know much about "Media", as
it is not yet released (although you can already pay for it), so I have
to reserve judgment here. But if th
e volume of the website.
Seen from the marketing angle for RunRev, the possibility to view and
test stacks for interested individuals who do not yet use one of the two
IDEs could be a starting point for at least some of them to eventually
join the community of Revolution and Metacard users.
warning, should the user choose this option,
that he will loose the new functionality of 2.7 with the conversion, in
case he should have included some of the new features.
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t to my website.
But there is more to the 2.7 "standalone file" needed to build
standalones, at least on Windows:
Rename file "standalone" to "Standalone.exe", and then you can
drag-and-drop mc-files on it, which will be opened.
pp" bundle in the neighbouring Revolution folder
"Runtime/Mac OS X/PowerPC-32".
If a MC stack is used in the Rev IDE, you cannot build a standalone of a
stack with a mc-extension, you have to change it to "rev".
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this case, which
however seems rather improbable to me) with a function that looks for
the presently applied lookandfeel and sets this as a property of a
standalone.
Another related issue: We lack an "Appearance Manager" option in the
Preferences substack.
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et of licensing functionality across all
Revolution-compatible development environments. At present, the
pre-2.7 per-Revolution licensing model is still used, but in the next
build an IDE engine will not run *unless* it has had a valid license
key entered.
Best wishes for a produ
ing to do with
embedded dialogs or other substacks, but that is apparently not the case.
The other way round, building standalones in the MC IDE from rev stacks
is possible even with maintaining the extension. But when selecting the
file in the dialog, Rev files are not displayed (see
ction of the second added script line is that
NewLoc is set to empty immediately *after* the dialog stack has been
safely placed; thus default behavior is restored, but the option to
place a dialog anywhere the next time remains.
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<ht
the NewLoc of this stack to empty "
The stacks can be used as usual if no NewLoc property is set.
Line 2 of the script makes sure to restore the default behavior of the
dialogs the next time they are opened without a specified "NewLoc"."
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<http://
ck is an image with polygon overlays corresponding to the
outlines of objects. Mode "Test with Loop" is an example for an
instructional programs that allows the repetition of unsolved problems."
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item 2 of Zeile into Eigner
put lineoffset(Eigner,BList) into GroupEigner
put line Groupeigner of BList into Beigner
put empty into pad
repeat while char 1 of Beigner is Space
put Space after last char of pad
delete char 1 of B
tended, a remark about the necessity to set
the alwaybuffer-property for a stack to true when using the deep-mask
feature should be added to the "windowshape" entry of the documentation.
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ed, a remark about the necessity to set
the alwaybuffer-property for a stack to true when using the deep-mask
feature should be added to the "windowshape" entry of the documentation.
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ssel.de> again. Regards, Wilhelm
Sanke <http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia> P.S.: Just returned from a stay
of several weeks at my second home (as it were) in Surfside, part of
North Miami Beach, where my schedule and leisure time distracted me very
much from things like Metacard and Revolution.
y screenshots.
But it escapes me why a non-matching version number should cause such
overlapping and cutting-off !? This does not happen with engine versions 2.5
or 2.6.2 (I reset the mcversions of these earlier versions without getting
adverse effects).
Regards,
Wilhelm Sanke
<http:
I have uploaded three screenshots (taken with a camera) that show the
overlapping of text in some menu items and also cut-off text:
<http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia/MCTools-B11.htm>
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c image if another img exists somewhere with the same id?
--
Mac and Windows shareware games
http://www.gypsyware.com
You can change the ID of an image.
Have a look at the "ID property" in the "Metatalk Reference" or the
"Transcript Dictionary".
--Wilhe
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Xavier wrote:
Wilhelm,
It's funny but I dont remember ControlsN2O being impacted!
I've been using a custom list and table for my browser since I added that
feature 2 or 3 years ago... Also, ControlsN2O is no longuer MetaCard
compatible since it depends on the RevGeometry manage
nature of the bug (after first having voiced some reservations).
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Thanks for the fix which you announced to me in the post below.
I see that the current release of 2.5.1 is still buildnumber 73. When
and where will buildnumber 77 be available?
Regards,
Wilhelm Sanke
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2471
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ew card you will
then have your consecutive ID numbers.
Cheers,
Wilhelm Sanke
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ibrary and I am wondering how it
could be integrated in Metacard as it possible with other Rev-specific
libraries or handlers.
Regards,
Wilhelm Sanke
On Sat Jan 22, 2005, Mark Smith mark at maseurope.net wrote:
>>> > Could anybody tell me where the "XML library" is located
a "mcTranscriptDict" of Jan 10, 2005,
in the files section of the Yahoo MC_IDE list. What does it do?
It does not have the two options "Scroll to" and "Filter" ( i.e. only
the latter) we had added some time ago.
Best regards,
Wilhelm Sanke
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