Re: Metacard menu in OSX stand-alone

2003-01-26 Thread Mark Talluto
On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 05:57 PM, RCS wrote: How do I change the 'MetaCard' default menu in a Mac OSX stand-alone to (my Application name) or anything else? I have tried a few menu definitions, but it seems like this is permanent...is it? I really wish we could define information for

Re: Metacard menu in OSX stand-alone

2003-01-26 Thread Ken Ray
Well, it's a long story. But the short form is this - the name of the application that is used to display the application menu name in OS X is stored in the info.pList file that is inside the "Contents" folder of the application bundle (to see it, control-click on your MC app and choose "Show Packa

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-10 Thread andu
tform issues are handled internally, within the engine. Most of them, yes but the 50 or so "Re: Metacard menu?" messages should tell you better by now. Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing l

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, "Shari" wrote: > One of the reasons I purchased Metacard was the ability to do it > cross platform. I do not expect to have to OWN each platform. It > was my understanding that you code one time, and compile three times. > And with a few exceptions, such as the Mac having a Preference

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Shari wrote: > I even ran tests using the various lookAndFeel options, which are > supposed to emulate the other platforms, are they not? In appearance only, and there's no way to see OS X-native appearances on other platforms (nor, I suspect, wil there be one for XP-native appearances should MC

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread Shari
1. If you can't or don't want to test/troubleshoot your work on a platform why bother to publish possibly broken apps for that platform. They are tested on the other platforms before release. That's how I found out about the Metacard menu in the first place, though she did not tell me in time

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 11/9/02 8:45 PM, Shari wrote: Does OSX match Windows now, in needing filename extensions? I'm guessing not, as my beta testers had no trouble accessing the program and associated files. But I wonder... is it moving in that direction? It isn't moving, it is a done deal. Extensions are requ

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread Ken Ray
ROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: Metacard menu? > >Calling AppPath on my standalone returns: > > > > /Users/kenray/Desktop/Test.app/ > > I notice that you used ".app" > > Does OSX match Windows now, in needing filename

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread Shari
Ken, Thank you for the detailed answer. That was very very helpful. Shari -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread Shari
Calling AppPath on my standalone returns: /Users/kenray/Desktop/Test.app/ I notice that you used ".app" Does OSX match Windows now, in needing filename extensions? I'm guessing not, as my beta testers had no trouble accessing the program and associated files. But I wonder... is it moving i

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread andu
--On Saturday, November 09, 2002 11:12:20 -0500 Shari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hate changing computers, and OS's. Change breaks things. One of my favorite games broke with the last change. I still miss that game. Civilization from Microprose. I have Civ II, but it just ain't as fun. I

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread Ken Ray
ify it to make sure. Hope this helps, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: "Shari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Metac

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread Shari
And since you've waited this long to jump on the X bandwagon (smart move, IMHO), you can draw on the experience of those who've already worked through these issues here on this list. I'm usually the last hold out :-) I hate changing computers, and OS's. Change breaks things. One of my favorit

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread Shari
In my experience, it is unfortunately necessary to thoroughly test your program in the three environments (native MacOs8 or 9, Classic under OsX and Osx). Differences exists in : - menus (specially the first one, as you experiment) - program icons - information in the finder "Informatio

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-09 Thread Shari
I haven't tried it, but it seems to me that an OS X application bundle should just look like a regular folder in OS 9. If that's true, then it seems like you could just open the appropriate subfolder and edit the plist in SimpleText. Can anybody point me to the name of the subfolder, the name o

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: > OSX --> "lickability over usability" > > LOL --way too funny I wish I could say I made it up, but... -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.0: Publish any database on any

RE: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Chipp Walters
OMG, OSX --> "lickability over usability" LOL --way too funny ...or sad, depending on how you look at it. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
A patient and good-natured Shari writes: >> The other way is to ship your standalone to someone with OS X and let them >> fix it for you (until you get a copy of OS X of your own). > > Not planning to upgrade in the near future. Too many of my programs > would break :-) An over-caffeinated Rich

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Herve Proudhon
In my experience, it is unfortunately necessary to thoroughly test your program in the three environments (native MacOs8 or 9, Classic under OsX and Osx). Differences exists in : - menus (specially the first one, as you experiment) - program icons - information in the finder "Informati

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Ken Ray
> I still wonder if it's just another menu btn, why not just insert > code to change it or hide it, as I would any other menu btn? On OS X, it's not a menu button... it is put into place by the OS based on information it finds in the Info.pList file of the bundle. By default this is "MetaCard", bu

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 11/8/02 3:54 PM, Shari wrote: I still wonder if it's just another menu btn, why not just insert code to change it or hide it, as I would any other menu btn? It isn't a button. It's set by the OS, and is part of the system menus. I haven't tried it, but it seems to me that an OS X applicatio

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Shari
Shari, You could write the code in the startup handler of your app that would change the value in the Info.pList file, but that would only "take" for subsequent launches; the first time, the user would see "MetaCard". That would be better than a permanent useless menu hanging out there. Especia

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Shari
Has anybody tried something like (in the programs startup script, perhaps): if there is a btn "Metacard" then set the name of btn "Metacard" to xyz hide btn "Metacard" etc. end if Would something like this work? Every app in OS X has the Application name as its first menu. It seemed

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Ken Ray
day, November 08, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Metacard menu? > So if you don't have OSX, and are compiling for OSX on PPC or > Windows, you are stuck with this menu. > > Lovely. > > There is no way to alter this from another platform? > > > > >Every app in OS X has t

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Ken Ray
- Original Message - From: "Shari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Metacard menu? > So if you don't have OSX, and are compiling for OSX on PPC or > Windows, you are stuck with this menu. &

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Shari
So if you don't have OSX, and are compiling for OSX on PPC or Windows, you are stuck with this menu. Lovely. There is no way to alter this from another platform? Every app in OS X has the Application name as its first menu. It seemed annoying at first, but now I like it. To change what it s

Re: Metacard menu?

2002-11-08 Thread Mark Luetzelschwab
Every app in OS X has the Application name as its first menu. It seemed annoying at first, but now I like it. To change what it says (instead of MetaCard): Right click on your .app in OS X, choose "view package contents" Open the contents folder open the info.plist file CFBundleName has the n