Re: [uf-discuss] MediaWiki plugin

On Jan 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: On 5 Jan 2009, at 12:05, Martin McEvoy wrote: It looks to me like the wiki is being spammed by a bot or bots [...] I stopped it by changing the form names to to something gibberish, nothing standard "wpTextbox1" would be come "ZifG5ut" nonsen

Re: [uf-discuss] rel="nsfw"

On May 6, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Gordon Oheim wrote: Hi all, I was just reading a blog about bad use of Photoshop that linked to "not-safe-for-work" sites every now and then. Made me wonder if we could use a microformat that indicates "non-suitable for work" links and the likes? I could imagine

Re: [uf-discuss] Github.com add rel=me

On Mar 24, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Tom Morris wrote: Github is a service for users of the Git distributed version control system, and provides hosting for open source and commercial software projects. I've been using it for a while. A while back they allowed people to add their profile details, which

Re: [uf-discuss] A (big) problem with XFN: identity of source andtarget not findable

On Mar 20, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote: Thanks Ryan! "Representative hCard" -- nice! I'm glad you like it. On a meta point, I'd like to suggest that before people post to this list saying "this is broken" that you first do some research on the wiki and elsewhere. There's a g

Re: [uf-discuss] A (big) problem with XFN: identity of source and target not findable

This is not a big problem, its mostly solved with [1] -ryan 1. http://microformats.org/wiki/representative-hcard On Mar 18, 2008, at 5:31 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote: Hi Folks, Flickr uses XFN. Here is a sample Flickr page that uses XFN: http://www.flickr.com/people/tantek/ At the browser

Re: [uf-discuss] Has the cowpath for these XFN values faded away: friend, co-worker, muse, etc?

On Mar 18, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote: Chris Messina wrote[1]: "... you'll find that, by and large, the majority of XFN links on the web are using either rel-contact or rel-me." I have been looking at various social networks for the last week, and Chris' statement is consistent w

Re: [uf-discuss] rel=tag problem

On Mar 14, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Scott Reynen wrote: On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:14 AM, David Meade wrote: If those of us who are concerned about this being implemented incorrectly are wrong, please let me know and I'll forward that education on to the mailing lists that have been discussing this ... but

Re: [uf-discuss] Social Networks that use XFN and Social Networks that use FOAF

On Mar 18, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote: Hi Folks, Below is a list of social networks that use XFN (special thanks to David Janes). Following that is a list of social networks that use FOAF. Why email these, why not just put them on the wiki? -ryan ___

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hCalendar for events in a table format

On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Jason Karns wrote: I am a little worried about dropping support for hCalendar in table markup. If the most semantic markup for a given hCalendar is in a table, then to use hCalendar authors would be required to use less-semantic markup. I think we can all agree thi

Re: [uf-discuss] IE8 + hAtom = hSlice

On Mar 5, 2008, at 7:28 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: It looks like Microsoft is adopting microformats, if not in a rather awkward way: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/readiness/DevelopersNew.htm#webslices On one hand, I am thrilled to see hAtom implemented in such an el

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hCalendar for events in a table format

On Mar 5, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote: On 3/5/08 5:02 AM, "Toby A Inkster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, implied headers like this while lowering the barrier to entry for authors, would considerably raise the barrier for parsers -- mostly because of colspan and rowspan, which

[uf-discuss] Reflections on community time, rules, guidelines, and banning Andy

most of which are directly due to Andy's actions as well) in the hopes of further minimizing community misbehaviors, and making it clearer to newcomers what kinds of behavior are or are not acceptable. Ryan King (on behalf of the microformats admins[3]) [1] http://microformats.org/wiki

Re: [uf-discuss] rel -vs- rev

On Feb 25, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Toby A Inkster wrote: The following is part of the rel FAQ | However, given that the 'rev' attribute has been more often misused by | authors than properly used (Google Code: Web Authoring Statistics: Link | Relationships

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: To-do items?

On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Toby A Inkster wrote: Mark Ng wrote: So far as I understand it (though I'm very far from an authority on this subject, and haven't actually seen an implementation of this) - hCalendar is a one-to-one mapping of iCalendar (RFC 2445). iCalendar allows for VTODO ent

Re: [uf-discuss] rel="contact"

On Feb 18, 2008, at 5:43 AM, Toby A Inkster wrote: The XFN 1.1 meaning of rel="contact" conflicts with the proposed semantics of rel="contact" in HTML 5. XFN 1.1 : | contact: Someone you know how to get in touch with. Often symmetric. HTML 5

Re: [uf-discuss] Fragment identifiers in hCard links

On Feb 11, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Rickards, Julian (NDM) wrote: -Original Message- Please make sure your page is at least well-formed: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A//www.mndm.gov.on.ca/ mndm/mines/lands/pro/contact_e.asp%23devosst Ryan: I fixed the page and now it is valid. How

Re: [uf-discuss] Fragment identifiers in hCard links

On Feb 7, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Rickards, Julian (NDM) wrote: Hi: I have multiple hCards on one page (http://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/mndm/mines/lands/pro/contact_e.asp http://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/mndm/mines/lands/pro/ contact_e.asp> ). I created a unique ID for each so that the link beside each one (htt

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for "include"

On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Toby A Inkster wrote: Tantek =?ISO-8859-1?B?xw==?=elik wrote: 1. class is an unordered set of values per HTML4. introducing ordering is a non-starter both from a violation of HTML4 spec perspective and likely requiring of rewriting HTML4 parsers to maintain an ord

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar duration problem.

On Sep 24, 2007, at 4:14 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: The first hCalendar on: for "The Outdoors Show", has a duration of "P3D", which is detected by operator, but does not appear in the exported event, in any of the several parsers I'v

Re: [uf-discuss] Storing Microformats

On Sep 17, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Paul Kinlan wrote: I have created a C#/.Net Stream-based Microformat parser (http://www.codeplex.com/microformat) and I am trying to create some reference applications to show it off. I am in the process of creating an "Operator" like plugin for IE (It currently par

Re: [uf-discuss] Storing Microformats

On Sep 18, 2007, at 7:21 AM, Christopher St John wrote: b) Be super corporate about it and come up with a relational schema that matched the _semantics_ (not the markup) of each microformat, then publish the schema to the group for others to use. Kinda brittle in the face of standards

Re: [uf-discuss] Storing Microformats

On Sep 18, 2007, at 2:15 AM, ken wrote: The problem with *not* storing the original markup is that, if there are changes in the "standards" (which it seems there certainly will be), you won't know which of your data need to be changed. My approach to this is always to recrawl the original

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard e-mail link/value

On Sep 22, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: I've first used such a formatted hCard in some pages: John Doe E-mail: mailto:John%20Doe% [EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] Then I've noticed some tools [1] I've tried which export vCard files out of that hCard information pu

Re: [uf-discuss] [Fwd: Search engine results, where do they go?]

On Sep 22, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Øyvind Østlund wrote: Hello, Bare with me, I am new to this. But I have been reading quite a bit lately about Microformats, and I want to try to use them for my search results on a web page I have. On the Wiki there is a link (today goes nowhere http://randomc

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag on delicious

On Sep 22, 2007, at 9:06 AM, Taylor Cowan wrote: Does anybody know why delicious isn't microformatted? I can only guess, either yahoo is starving the site, or they are against the concept. It sticks out like a sore thumb in my weblife...on occasion when demonstrating Operator to friends I

Re: [uf-discuss] hCards and Companies

On Sep 21, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Duncan Cragg wrote: Hello uF list! I've got some questions on hCards used to represent a company... Nothing here should be constituted as a request for a new uF; I've read the hCard and vCard specs; I know about paving the cowpath, 80:20 and POSH;

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats Would Benefit From a Pseudo-Namespace

On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it belongs here: http://meiert.com/en/blog/20070913/microformats-and-pseudo-namespaces/ I hope you don't think I'm being overly critical, I just think your reasoning is flawed in a few ways and doesn't line up with the experienc

Re: [uf-discuss] marking up table rows - carrying id through rows to create multiple unique .ics exports

On Sep 12, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Matt Warnock wrote: Hello - I have a question of how to create an id that carries through several cell elements and then links to the X2V service to create the .ics file. I am hoping to have multiple events on one page and want to give the user one option to d

Re: [uf-discuss] Multiple hCards on one page

On Sep 10, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Martin McEvoy wrote: On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 22:20 +0100, Martin McEvoy wrote: .. you should be able to grab individual vCard's by simply http://suda.co.uk/projects/microformats/hcard/get-contact.php? uri=http://exhale.daisyinteractive.com/locations/#card1 oops

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking up table rows

On Sep 4, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: I suspect it's the fact the lon/lat need a @class="geo" wrapper. that would have to go on the TR meaning the vcard gets pushed up a level. or is that naughty? :-) It's not naughty, but it just doesn't mean what you hope it means. :) -r

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Simple solution to abbr-D-P accessibility concerns: 'Title Trigger'

On Aug 17, 2007, at 5:41 AM, Toby A Inkster wrote: Andy Mabbett wrote: Here's a proposal, for a "title trigger", an alternative to the abbr-design pattern. This is a reasonably good solution. For what it's worth, I'm waiting until this very long-standing issue has been resolved before impleme

Re: [uf-discuss] RubHub closing down?

On Aug 7, 2007, at 2:03 AM, Brian Suda wrote: On 8/6/07, David Mead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just saw that RubHub is closing down. Does anyone know of any other sites out there that are doing, or plan to do, the same sort of thing? --- and/or if there is any plans to release the sourc

Re: [uf-discuss] Link to Technorati Contacts

On Jul 5, 2007, at 6:02 AM, Rickards, Julian (NDM) wrote: Hi: Brian Suda gives clear instructions on how to create a link to his X2V application to create vCards from hCArd markup. However, on the X2V page, he states that although the "engine" on his site is more recent than Technorati Contacts

Re: [uf-discuss] microformats for normal people, like my mum

On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Frances Berriman wrote: On 28/06/07, Thom Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Exactly! We need a brand and a website that introduces people to the concept, tells them where to get the plugins or the right browsers and possibly encourages them to put pressure on the

Re: [uf-discuss] microformats for normal people, like my mum

On Jun 28, 2007, at 1:37 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: hQuote anyone? ;-) http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#edef-Q -ryan ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microf

Re: [uf-discuss] Question about telephone numbers

On Jun 25, 2007, at 5:10 AM, Rickards, Julian (NDM) wrote: The current format forces us to include "voice" or "fax" in text rather than in the attributes. In my original case, I didn't want to include the word "voice" in the text because in the contacts page I was/am creating, all of the numbe

Re: [uf-discuss] Generating valid unique IDs for hAtom

On Jun 21, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Jon Gibbins (dotjay) wrote: I've been looking into generating unique references for entries that can be used in the id attribute for an hAtom implementation. Does anyone actually have a solution for this? I've been using something along the lines of: tag:example

Re: [uf-discuss] uF dumped in tag soup?

On Jun 15, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Dougal Campbell wrote: Okay, so I started a new job recently. The web site and service has a lot to do with SEO. But despite that, the HTML is a mess of table-based layout and tag soup. I'm hoping I can change that in time, but it won't happen quickly. But one of

Re: [uf-discuss] Question about telephone numbers

On Jun 20, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Rickards, Julian (NDM) wrote: Hi: I am working on our government web site and am working towards implementing the hCard microformat for our contact pages. However, I am having a bit of difficulty with phone numbers. To "verify" my work, I installed the Tails Ex

Re: [uf-discuss] XFN for email addresses?

On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:19 AM, Pelle W wrote: The two concerns that I can come up with is that if one site wants an e-mail adress for their xfn-links and another wants an url then I all of the sudden have to identities without connection between them. The solution to that would be the abilit

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: XFN for email addresses?

On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:45 AM, Chris Messina wrote: I suppose this is where graph theory has to come in to some degree and afford immediate lapses as such, for, in the example you described, if somewhere there exists a reference, say on theryanking.com, that points to that email address using rel-

Re: [uf-discuss] XFN for email addresses?

On Jun 13, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Chris Messina wrote: On 6/13/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 12, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Chris Messina wrote: > Clearly the biggest issue I see with this scheme is the inability to > link out *from* the email address. However, I'm n

Re: [uf-discuss] XFN for email addresses?

On Jun 12, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Chris Messina wrote: Clearly the biggest issue I see with this scheme is the inability to link out *from* the email address. However, I'm not sure that this case nullifies the utility of such links. And this is a quite large issue. It effectively removes the N in X

Re: [uf-discuss] Fragment identifiers and XFN

On Jun 8, 2007, at 7:19 AM, Brian Suda wrote: I'm not sure that would apply to any query strings? http://example.org/users.php?user=briansuda that could return a unique page with a proper HTTP response code, because that is evaluated on the server side. But that's another discussion. Well, if

Re: [uf-discuss] Fragment identifiers and XFN

On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello Chris, AFAIK any URI should do. So you can use fragments too. It's actually not that simple. A more difficult example: http://technorati.com/about/staff.html#tantek_celik That page has identifying information for a number o

Re: [uf-discuss] Problem with VoteLinks?

On Jun 7, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote: The VoteLinks specification says that a VoteLink is used to (1) indicate agreement or disagreement with the resource indicated by href, and (2) the title attribute should be used to express a human-readable commentary (i.e., a rationale)

Re: [uf-discuss] Problem with VoteLinks?

On Jun 7, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote: Hi Folks, There may be a problem with VoteLinks. REVIEW OF VoteLinks Here's an example of using the VoteLinks Microformat to express support for a Web site that sells garlic capsules: href="http://www.all-about-lowering-cholesterol.com

Re: [uf-discuss] a question about concatenation and hAtom entry content

On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Ryan King wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:59 AM, David Janes wrote: I concur. Time to start ramping up for hAtom 0.2, if I can get some blocks of free time. I'm more than willing to help. I have time to spend on it right now. I'll work on collecting issu

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: atom:category scheme

On Jun 3, 2007, at 1:42 AM, Edward O'Connor wrote: Ryan King wrote: I think we should use rel-tag tagspaces for atom category schemes. Sounds good to me. I wrote a bit about how to represent tags within atom:category here: http://edward.oconnor.cx/2007/02/representing-tags-in

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom 0.2 (was: a question about concatenation...)

On Jun 2, 2007, at 9:11 AM, David Janes wrote: On 6/1/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:59 AM, David Janes wrote: > I concur. Time to start ramping up for hAtom 0.2, if I can get some > blocks of free time. I'm more than willing to help. I have ti

Re: [uf-discuss] a question about concatenation and hAtom entry content

On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:59 AM, David Janes wrote: I concur. Time to start ramping up for hAtom 0.2, if I can get some blocks of free time. I'm more than willing to help. I have time to spend on it right now. I'll work on collecting issues to deal with. -ryan __

[uf-discuss] atom:category scheme

There has been some previous discussion[1] of this (in 2005!), but it seems to have been lost. I think we should use rel-tag tagspaces for atom category schemes. For those not familiar with Atom, category elements define 3 attributes: term, label and scheme. hAtom currently defines mapping

Re: [uf-discuss] a question about concatenation and hAtom entry content

On May 31, 2007, at 11:29 AM, David Janes wrote: On 5/31/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another option is that entry content is: Content More Content Is there a reason why hAtom as currently spec'ed only does text, not markup? I thought it did markup! I totally see w

Re: [uf-discuss] a question about concatenation and hAtom entry content

On Jun 1, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Brian Suda wrote: On 6/1/07, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- maybe i mis-interpreted this, but do you mean that in a > Content > > the should be carried through? or converted to *Content*? The strongs (i.e., and all other HTML) should be carried throug

Re: [uf-discuss] a question about concatenation and hAtom entry content

On May 23, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: excerpted from http://microformats.org/wiki/hAtom#Entry_Content : an Entry MAY have 0 or more Entry Content elements. The "logical Entry Content" of an Entry is the concatenation, in order of appearance, of all the Entry Contents within

Re: [uf-discuss] W3HTML WG, HTML5, semantics, and so on

On May 13, 2007, at 3:13 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: On May 11, 2007, at 3:15 PM, John Allsopp wrote: (abbr pattern problems, Clearly, there's a need for markup for the generic pattern of marking up a triple of data presented to humans, the microformat class and a normalized easy-to-parse re

Re: [uf-discuss] Fwd: Twitter Is Now Even More Geeky

On May 11, 2007, at 12:13 AM, Ben Buchanan wrote: > And for the really geeky, we have a surprise: Twitter now fully > supports microformats. Now that is pretty geektastic. How 'bout that! But what does that mean? Hmm, well it looks like all the are now hCards and the streams are hAtom. Nothin

Re: [uf-discuss] a[name] as machine data?

On May 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM, James Craig wrote: Ryan King wrote: James Craig wrote: Haven't thought too much about this, but are there any obvious gotchas to using an anchor element with name attribute as a potential replacement for the abbr-design-pattern? I believe a[name] an

Re: [uf-discuss] a[name] as machine data?

On May 10, 2007, at 3:23 PM, James Craig wrote: Just a thought: Haven't thought too much about this, but are there any obvious gotchas to using an anchor element with name attribute as a potential replacement for the abbr-design-pattern? I believe a[name] and @id need to be unique across

Re: [uf-discuss] New Microformats.dk website

On May 8, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Brian Suda wrote: I found this Website today, i don't think it has been mentioned on this list before. It is a microformats website for Danish speakers. http://www.microformats.dk/ I know that we now have several other sites which are translating our blog and other

Re: [uf-discuss] Yahoo introduces no-search microformat like function

On May 4, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Ben Ward wrote: On 4 May 2007, at 22:19, Ted Drake wrote: What’s the traction for something like this and “no-follow” to get integrated into the microformat platform? Well, robots-nocontent is not part of the the robots-exclusion draft, which in itself has not b

Re: [uf-discuss] Expanding the abbr pattern

On May 3, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Wiley Sittler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Q1 '07: 2007-01-01 through 2007-04-01 In addition to Patrick's valid concerns about house style; I would again point out that "dtend" is exclusive; microformats

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard names - n vs. fn

On Apr 24, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Drew McLellan wrote: They're also subprops of fn when n isn't present. But n is present. They are? If so, that's news to me. Maybe you're referring to the implied-n rules? -ryan ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard names - n vs. fn

On Apr 23, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The Rt Hon    Tony Blair   MP On reflection, would it make more sense to reverse the "n" and "fn", thus:

Re: [uf-discuss] URLs in hrefs

On Apr 20, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Nic James Ferrier wrote: "David Janes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The reason that there has been little discussion is that the rules for dealing with this are well understood and settled. This document [1] will give you everything you need -- written in 1995. Re

Re: [uf-discuss] URLs in hrefs

On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote: Afternoon all Standard practice at the beeb has always been to use link urls relative to the root: href="/radio4/today" Clearly these are of little use in a microformat (or any attempt to use html as an api) It's not clear that they

Re: [uf-discuss] XFN - Professionals network uF

On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Guy Fraser wrote: Hi, (Apologies for cross posting, but wasn't sure which list this was being discussed on) I read on the microformats site that there are plans to develop XFN - that's something I'd be extremely interested in as our company has numerous clie

Re: [uf-discuss] Datetime design pattern

On Apr 16, 2007, at 1:17 AM, Ciaran McNulty wrote: It would be nice, IMO, if the wiki linked to the relevant sections of the mailing list, IRC logs and influential blog posts for decisions like this. It would help to explain a lot of the thinking behind 'controversial' decisions like the dateti

Re: [uf-discuss] Numbers of Microformats in the Wild?

On Apr 12, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Jason Garber wrote: Continuing with the Flickr example, each user profile is an hCard, so however many users they have, there is an equal number of hCards. Similarly, figure out how many events upcoming.org has and you'll have an equal number of hCards, events, and

Re: [uf-discuss] Numbers of Microformats in the Wild?

On Apr 12, 2007, at 8:06 AM, Kevin Lawver wrote: I'm presenting on microformats at Web 2.0 Expo (well, hopefully, if they can move me back to my original time) next week, and would love to have more examples of folks using microformats as APIs. I ungraciously stole an idea I saw on the lis

Re: [uf-discuss] "table headers inclusion method" & "axis"

On Apr 9, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Thee are a couple of references, on the wiki, to the "table headers inclusion method" and "axis" in tables, not least: [...] Thank you for y

Re: [uf-discuss] "table headers inclusion method" & "axis"

On Apr 9, 2007, at 6:40 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: Thee are a couple of references, on the wiki, to the "table headers inclusion method" and "axis" in tables, not least: from a year ago, but I can't find any more

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hCard creator and multitoken given/family names

On Apr 4, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Apr 4, 2007, at 20:10, Ryan King wrote: FNs with more than 3 tokens are perfectly fine, it's just that there's no implied-n rule that can deal with it, so the creator needs to explicitly mark up N. Well, that doesn't h

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hCard creator and multitoken given/family names

On Apr 4, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Mar 28, 2007, at 21:00, Ryan King wrote: On Mar 28, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: I'd be interested in a design rationale pointer explaining why having more than two tokens in an fn is not allowed when the information abou

Re: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia.

On Apr 4, 2007, at 4:31 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote: Is there an "adr template" in Wikipedia, so that the adr Microformat can be automatically injected into Wikipedia pages? Not /yet/... Is there a way to create new templates? Can we create a template for hcard, vevent, and so forth?

Re: [uf-discuss] xfolk questions

ks without the actual tag being a link somewhere? No. xFolk uses rel-tag[1], which is designed to use links for tagging. -ryan 1. http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats

Re: hCard creator and multitoken given/family names (was: Re: [uf-discuss] hCite elevator pitch and my bibliography generator)

markup. Is this something that has been inherited wholesale from vCard? Having more than 2 tokens in an fn is allowed, it's just not useful for calculating an implied-n. -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mai

Re: [uf-discuss] An Inconvenient hCard

On Mar 20, 2007, at 2:34 AM, Paul Wilkins wrote: Ryan King wrote: > On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Ara Pehlivanian wrote: > >> I've got a bit of a problem with an hCard that I need to mark up and >> I was wondering if anyone could lend me a hand. > > Type is

Re: [uf-discuss] An Inconvenient hCard

c...) and that's where my problem lies. Type is not required. -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] "related" hcards [was VIA or VIA SELF to indicateauthoritativehCard[was:UID URL to indicate (relatively)moreauthoritativehCard...]]

On Feb 23, 2007, at 1:44 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote: Ryan King wrote: I understand this. I agree that this is a desirable goal. I would personally like to see it happen. However, the simpler problem of two hcards representing the same person (or organization) should be solved first, because it is a

Re: [uf-discuss] Identity-related hCards?

On Mar 1, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Joe Andrieu wrote: Ryan King wrote: On Feb 20, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Scott Reynen wrote: And maybe that's because what you're describing is actually more specific that "related hCards" implies. It seems here you're just talking about a sing

Re: [uf-discuss] User Groups

proposing a new format. A simple search for 'group' brings up: http://microformats.org/wiki/group-brainstorming http://microformats.org/wiki/group-examples There's also prior art in http://hellonline.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/XMF Thanks, ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] _

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

s possible. ... ... ... ... ... Why not just use tags? ... ... ? -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

dvice. I'd also suggest that those who want to extend hResume start by experimenting with their own resumes/CVs. -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.

Re: [uf-discuss] Identity-related hCards?

On Feb 20, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Scott Reynen wrote: On Feb 20, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Ryan King wrote: However, the simpler problem of two hcards representing the same person (or organization) should be solved first, because it is a simpler problem, with a simpler solution (which may not require

Re: [uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritativehCard[was:UID URL to indicate (relatively) moreauthoritativehCard(Was:Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicateanauthoritative hCard)]

On Feb 14, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Joe Andrieu wrote: Ryan King wrote: On Feb 10, 2007, at 3:09 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote: Ryan King wrote: First off, I'm not saying we should constrain UID to be a URL, but in the case that it *is* a URL, we can apply these semantics. And if the uid is not a

Re: [uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritative hCard[was:UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard(Was:Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate anauthoritative hCard)]

On Feb 13, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Scott Reynen wrote: On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Ryan King wrote: And if the uid is not an url, then authors can't assert authority, correct? I'm not even considering authority for now. We need to just deal with related hCards first. I'm no

Re: [uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritative hCard[was:UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard(Was:Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate anauthoritative hCard)]

also not a good precedence to set for uFs in general. For backwards-compatibility alone, @rel=via seems to me an optimal solution. Yes, this would mean a change in how UIDs are parsed, however the only UID I can find in the wild are URLs. A change wouldn't break anything. -ryan -- Ry

Re: [uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritative hCard[was:UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard(Was:Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate anauthoritative hCard)]

ously have many different URLs on the web that could be treated as my UID. This makes things messy, for sure, but it's how people work on the web already. -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-disc

Re: [uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritative hCard[was:UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard(Was:Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate anauthoritative hCard)]

On Feb 10, 2007, at 3:09 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote: Ryan King wrote: First off, I'm not saying we should constrain UID to be a URL, but in the case that it *is* a URL, we can apply these semantics. And if the uid is not an url, then authors can't assert authority, correct? I&

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

education and training could be useful as clearly employers sometimes see them as distinct concepts. "Sometimes" is not enough. We're trying to work with the 80 side of the 80/20. I have nothing against improving hResume here, but we shouldn't add features that only

Re: [uf-discuss] SOURCE+URL to indicate authoritative hCard (was UID+URL vs. VIA)

On Feb 12, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Brian Suda wrote: On 2/12/07, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Feb 12, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Ryan King wrote: >> Has anyone looked at using the SOURCE property from vCard to >> indicate a more authoritative hCard? It seems to be much

Re: [uf-discuss] SOURCE+URL to indicate authoritative hCard (was UID+URL vs. VIA)

2V to indicate the URL at which the current hCard is available. I don't think we'd be able to override that at this point. -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microf

Re: [uf-discuss] addresses for rural delivery

port into an address book application. -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard (Was: Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate anauthoritative hCard)

On Feb 9, 2007, at 12:31 AM, Sam Sethi wrote: Couldn't be your openid page? i.e http://samksethi.myopenid.com and this page contain my details in hCard? Certainly. It's just a web page! :D -ryan ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-

Re: [uf-discuss] "authoritative hCards", a simpler proposl

ly build a tool that tried to do cluster of hCards by FN+URL (based on data from our search engine [http://kitchen.technorati.com/search/]), but found a large number of false negatives. For example, if you linked to by blog the link form the mf.org blog to my blog wou

Re: [uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritative hCard[was: UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard(Was: Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate anauthoritative hCard)]

Ryan King: The problem, IMO, with "uid url" is that the uid for a book, for example, is more likely an ISBN rather than a URL, so it wouldn't necessarily be a URI. Allowing both an ISBN uid and a "via" link allows parsers that aware of ISBN to do smart things (such

[uf-discuss] "authoritative hCards", a simpler proposl

th the new hCard A similar algorithm could be used to find all related hCards in the network, but only if you have access to a database of backlinks. -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritative hCard [was: UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard (Was: Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate anauthoritative hCard)]

his is relevant. We're talking about hCard here, not a citation format. Also, the url+uid proposal only concerns the case where the url and uid are the same (and, therefore, a URL). -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritative hCard (Was: Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard)

ddress book" - I use it somewhere (to refer to Ryan King) - It doesn't have a UID, so there's no tracing it back to source Sure, that would be unfortunate, but with the addition of the second base case (see above) it would be solved. -ryan -- Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

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