On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote:
Generalization is always false.
I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN
And what makes you so sure that this was exact cause? Another
generalization.
Markus Hennecke wrote:
Marco Peereboom schrieb:
I work with people that run io tools against flash parts.
I still have
to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never
write more to
it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue
argument is very
silly.
Aaron Stellman schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote:
Generalization is always false.
I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN
And what makes you so sure that this was exact cause? Another
generalization.
The inode holding
Tony Abernethy schrieb:
I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging
of OpenVPN
Connections from WLAN Clients which unfortunately had power saving
enabled and dropped the connection every few minutes. Took me
around 2
or 3 weeks, I just forgot to reduce the log level. Perhaps
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:19:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote:
Aaron Stellman schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote:
Generalization is always false.
I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of
OpenVPN
And what makes you so sure that
Aaron Stellman schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:19:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote:
Aaron Stellman schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote:
Generalization is always false.
I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of
OpenVPN
And what
Aaron Stellman wrote:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:19:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote:
Aaron Stellman schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote:
Generalization is always false.
I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of
OpenVPN
And
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 09:44:18AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote:
The inode holding the log files metadata was no longer writeable.
What else would cause that?
I don't know what the cause is, and there is no point speculating.
So you are saying that there is no relation in writing many times
* Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 09:54]:
So you are saying that there is no relation in writing many times to one
inode and the block containing the inode no longer writeable? This seems
obvious to me because flash memory is involved. Perhaps you can give a
* Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 08:06]:
Marco Peereboom schrieb:
I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have
to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to
it than a month long stress test. This write
2009/4/17 Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us
I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have
to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to
it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue argument is very
silly.
Hey! My firewall may be
Henning Brauer wrote:
* Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 08:06]:
Marco Peereboom schrieb:
I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have
to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to
it than a month long stress
These people run io tools like iogen to it for a month at a time and
reuse the flash next time a device needs testing (the flash is just a
vessel). If you want to see what iogen does run it on your laptop with
iogen -n5 and wait 1 minute. Now try to cold launch firefox.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at
* Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 14:42]:
Henning Brauer wrote:
* Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 08:06]:
Marco Peereboom schrieb:
I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have
to see it fail too. Your
2009/4/16 Bob Beck b...@obtuse.com:
I have a t5xxx also and want to do the same, but if I use usb flash (tried
and worked fine), how to limit at max disk writes ? so the flash can live
longer ...
Please let me know if you find an answer to this question. I have all these
openbsd machines
I'm currently trying to get my hands on a Nexcom Nise 2000. Should come
in under your power specs. Our goals are slightly different - I want a
smaller, quieter home server, don't care to do anything desktop related
with it. I'm sure it would work fine for either.
Timothy Hume wrote:
Hi,
My
On Wed, April 15, 2009 23:24, Marco Peereboom wrote:
to quote from my own email:
OpenBSD 4.4-beta (GENERIC) #976: Fri Jul 11 16:41:38 MDT 2008
pvalc...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800 (GenuineTMx86 586-class)
732 MHz
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:10:19PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
I have a t5xxx also and want to do the same, but if I use usb flash (tried
and worked fine), how to limit at max disk writes ? so the flash can live
longer ...
From section 14.17.2 of the FAQ:
Write fatigue: Much has been written
Whatever if it breaks I'll go spend another $4 at the fry's.
Besides better usb sticks have that built in; but really do you think
it'll really break from sitting there beeing booted of?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:10:19PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
On Wed, April 15, 2009 23:24, Marco Peereboom
I have a t5xxx also and want to do the same, but if I use usb flash (tried
and worked fine), how to limit at max disk writes ? so the flash can live
longer ...
Please let me know if you find an answer to this question. I have all these
openbsd machines booking off hard drives, and I'm trying
On Thu, April 16, 2009 12:52, Rodolfo Gouveia wrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:10:19PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
I have a t5xxx also and want to do the same, but if I use usb flash
(tried
and worked fine), how to limit at max disk writes ? so the flash can
live
longer ...
From section
On 2009-04-16, Nenhum_de_Nos math...@eternamente.info wrote:
that I was known, I just want to be sure it won't die out of a sudden.
In my experience with flash-based storage, it's *far* more likely to
die from something totally unrelated to the number of write cycles.
I had 64MB CF in use for
2009/4/17 Nenhum_de_Nos math...@eternamente.info:
that I was known, I just want to be sure it won't die out of a sudden.
thanks anyway.
I've been using CF cards in OpenBSD firewalls for about 4 or 5 years.
I have yet to see a failure with SanDisk and Lexar CF cards.
As a precaution, I only
I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have
to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to
it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue argument is very
silly.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 01:16:24PM +1000, SJP Lists wrote:
2009/4/17
Which HP T5000 did you install OpenBSD on ... and how did you do it?
I have a T5300, and I'd love to wipe its flash drive and install OpenBSD.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote:
Get an HP T5000 series. I use that for my home firewall; no fans and no
to quote from my own email:
OpenBSD 4.4-beta (GENERIC) #976: Fri Jul 11 16:41:38 MDT 2008
pvalc...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800 (GenuineTMx86 586-class) 732
MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,CX8,SEP,CMOV,SER,MMX
real
Nico Meijer wrote:
Hi Timothy,
Is it possible to build something like I describe which uses under 30
Watts, and if so, what hardware would people recommend?
I am very happy with several mini-itx systems, both from VIA and from
Jetway.
For instance, a VIA VB7002 with 1.5Ghz C7-D CPU and 2Gb of
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:52:23PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
[...]
a PIII-class system with an i810 chipset will probably come in below 30W
when idle. (Other chipsets may, too...but I put the Wattmeter on a 500MHz
PIII with an i810 chipset, with both a real disk and a flash disk, and it
in the United
States of America ;)
(case, mobo, power supply, ram, cpu, hdd, etc) $200.00 USD
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Mic J michael.cogn...@gmail.com wrote:
What about the Intel Atom, there is a version targeted for kind of
embedded systems.
Think its called z5xx or something.
Its a x86, so i suppose its well supported?
i'm buying 1 soonish, board, with no fan, 2GB ram ,
Get an HP T5000 series. I use that for my home firewall; no fans and no
noise. With 3 NICs it uses less than 1A.
OpenBSD 4.4-beta (GENERIC) #976: Fri Jul 11 16:41:38 MDT 2008
pvalc...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800
Timothy Hume skrev:
Hi,
My current PC is not very healthy. I am considering building a new low
power consumption machine. I want something a bit more powerful than a
Soekris, but it doesn't have to be the fastest machine around. I will
be using the machine for web browsing, Email, managing my
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 08:59:31AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
Get an HP T5000 series. I use that for my home firewall; no fans and no
noise. With 3 NICs it uses less than 1A.
em0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82546GB) rev 0x03: irq 11,
address 00:04:23:ab:6e:68
em1 at
There is one pci slot in it so i dropped a dual em in it. Did have to
use a 1A power supply instead of a 500mA one :-)
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 07:58:28AM -0700, Aaron Stellman wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 08:59:31AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
Get an HP T5000 series. I use that for my
* Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us [2009-04-13 16:21]:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:31:52PM +1000, Timothy Hume wrote:
Is it possible to build something like I describe which uses under 30
Watts, and if so, what hardware would people recommend?
Get an HP T5000 series. I use that for my home
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:40:57PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
* Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us [2009-04-13 16:21]:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:31:52PM +1000, Timothy Hume wrote:
Is it possible to build something like I describe which uses under 30
Watts, and if so, what hardware
What about the Intel Atom, there is a version targeted for kind of
embedded systems.
Think its called z5xx or something.
Its a x86, so i suppose its well supported?
i'm buying 1 soonish, board, with no fan, 2GB ram , and a case.
Adding a semi old harddisk 2.5 from my own drawers.
Total is about
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:40:57PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
1A * 120V = 120VA ~= 120W
Assuming cos(O) is somewhere near unity, which isn't a good assumption
to make even though it's increasingly close in new switching power
supplies. In the case of autoranging supplies it's usually pretty
Also have a look at the fanless VIA C7 processor.
Timothy Hume wrote:
Hi,
My current PC is not very healthy. I am considering building a new low
power consumption machine. I want something a bit more powerful than a
Soekris, but it doesn't have to be the fastest machine around. I will
be
Timothy Hume wrote:
Hi,
My current PC is not very healthy. I am considering building a new low
power consumption machine. I want something a bit more powerful than a
Soekris, but it doesn't have to be the fastest machine around. I will
be using the machine for web browsing, Email, managing my
Hi Timothy,
Is it possible to build something like I describe which uses under 30
Watts, and if so, what hardware would people recommend?
I am very happy with several mini-itx systems, both from VIA and from
Jetway.
For instance, a VIA VB7002 with 1.5Ghz C7-D CPU and 2Gb of RAM cost me
89
A
hw.model=Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 230 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class)
hw.ncpu=1
hw.byteorder=1234
hw.pagesize=4096
hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=12.00 degC
hw.sensors.admtm0.temp0=31.00 degC (Internal)
hw.sensors.admtm0.temp1=38.00 degC (External)
hw.sensors.admtm0.temp2=34.00 degC (External)
I have one of these -
http://www.soekris.com/net4801.htm
comes in at 15W
2009/4/13 Nico Meijer li...@familiemeijer.org:
Hi Timothy,
Is it possible to build something like I describe which uses under 30
Watts, and if so, what hardware would people recommend?
I am very happy with several
Has anyone had experience with eBox? They look interesting...
http://www.wdlsystems.com/ebox/ebox.shtml
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Timothy Hume t...@nomuka.com wrote:
My current PC is not very healthy. I am considering building a new low
power consumption machine. I want something a bit more powerful than a
Soekris, but it doesn't have to be the fastest machine around. I will
be using the
--- On Mon, 4/13/09, Timothy Hume t...@nomuka.com wrote:
From: Timothy Hume t...@nomuka.com
Subject: Low power OpenBSD machine
To: misc@openbsd.org
Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 7:31 AM
Hi,
My current PC is not very healthy. I am considering building
a new low power consumption machine
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:59:11AM -0600, Daniel Melameth wrote:
Almost any modern notebook will use less than 30 watts and be
significantly more powerful than a Soekris.
Get a used ThinkPad and swap in a bigger drive. You'll get a superior
keyboard and silent operation on top of Really
You need to go get yourself a EE degree :-)
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:40:57PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
* Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us [2009-04-13 16:21]:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:31:52PM +1000, Timothy Hume wrote:
Is it possible to build something like I describe which uses
Hi everyone,
Thank you for all the suggestions; these have given me plenty of ideas
to research.
Cheers,
Tim.
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