Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:11:21 -0700 (MST)
Diana Eichert wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Steve Shockley wrote:
On 2/13/2010 6:49 PM, Diana Eichert wrote:
PS when I went to college BSD didn't exist and I turned out "okay"
The overly pedantic part of me wonders if y
I can tell you that *BSD is alive and well, and if anything is thriving
in the network, data centre, and hosting environments. A search of the
NANOG mailing lists (anyone teaching networking should know what NANOG
is), and the webhostingtalk.com forums (where many hosting providers
participate) wil
2010/2/13 Tomas Bodzar
> People which like S/M (iptables) are able to follow only one argument
> - punch them. It's something which makes them happy :-D
>
> Now something more seriously. I think that it will be possible to
> write about iptables and provide (eg. as comment) "how-to" for OpenBSD
>
> Hehe. I did APL. Was gonna be the next best thing to sliced bread ;-)
I'm sure you meant to write ``bake-only sliced bread'' here!
Miod
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:11:21 -0700 (MST)
Diana Eichert wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Steve Shockley wrote:
>
> > On 2/13/2010 6:49 PM, Diana Eichert wrote:
> >> PS when I went to college BSD didn't exist and I turned out "okay"
> >
> > The overly pedantic part of me wonders if you went to colleg
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:40:05 +
TS Lura wrote:
> "ooh, that's
> cool"
It's the poor man's Apple, without all the caveats, controls and gotchas,
but with a complete toolbox and manual.
You can run it on anything that will run a WinDos (and then some), and you
will get more reliability with b
On 14/02/2010 02:40, TS Lura wrote:
> Thank you all for the replies.
>
> I might do a lecture on my own, presenting OpenBSD.
>
> If I where to do that it, as a subsection, would be cool to give references
> to other institutions that are using OpenBSD and why they are using it.
>
> Why one would
"When in doubt use brute force"
Any melee weapon will do.
--
Christiano Farina HAESBAERT
Do NOT send me html mail.
Dear All,
I don't usually write an email for the mailing list. But when I hear
your situation I decided to write. :)
First of all, I completely support the comments of Bayard Bell. I'm also
MS of Information Security student at CMU and I'm really sorry behalf of
your professor if everything was t
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Steve Shockley wrote:
On 2/13/2010 6:49 PM, Diana Eichert wrote:
PS when I went to college BSD didn't exist and I turned out "okay"
The overly pedantic part of me wonders if you went to college pre-'77...
my introductory CS class was Algol-W, you figure out the timeline
I'd venture that your professor isn't particularly well-educated if he
thinks BSD is dead or dying from either a commercial or a pedagogical
perspective. A considerable amount of literature on the subject of
networking is written using the BSD codebase as reference (e.g. the
Richard Stevens TCP/IP
On 13 February 2010 09:06, TS Lura wrote:
> This might be the wrong crowd, but (...) Linux at least once should be
> mentioned as
GNU/Linux.(system-tools/Kernel, to pay tribute).
This is indeed the wrong crowd for that. http://openbsd.org/lyrics.html#43
> I feel it's game over, at this point. B
On 2/13/2010 6:49 PM, Diana Eichert wrote:
PS when I went to college BSD didn't exist and I turned out "okay"
The overly pedantic part of me wonders if you went to college pre-'77...
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 08:06:30AM +, TS Lura wrote:
> Dear OpenBSD community,
>
> I'm a student for a MSc Advanced Networking degree.
>
> I have a little situation maybe you guys could give me some feedback on.
>
> The issue is that my module leader is refusing even to consider mentioning
>
Thank you all for the replies.
I might do a lecture on my own, presenting OpenBSD.
If I where to do that it, as a subsection, would be cool to give references
to other institutions that are using OpenBSD and why they are using it.
Why one would use OpenBSD, over eg. GNU/Linux.
Now I would site p
On 02/13/2010 02:06 AM, TS Lura wrote:
I feel it's game over, at this point. But maybe you guys have some
suggestion about good arguments that might persuade my professor?
Cheers,
TSLura.
You can look at it this way: you will have a leg up on your classmates because
you have done enough sel
sorry, some people are idiots, including professors. *BSD is not dying
However, since this is a Network course which supposedly introduces you to
routers and whatever, you could ask the prof if he knows much about
Juniper routers. oh, yeah, before you ask the prof that question you
might want to
"Bsd" is used in quite a lot of things. Think netapps appliances
which run bsd. Think windows (2000 at least) which took the tcp stack
from freebsd. There are a lot of such "appliances". Even cisco's ios
owes its roots to bsd, iirc - at the very core of it, it has some form
of sunos or an early
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:06 AM, TS Lura wrote:
> The issue is that my module leader is refusing even to consider mentioning
> OpenBSD, or any BSD in introductory Linux course where the focus is on
> network services. DNS, iptables, Apache.
I went through all of college without any classes mentio
> here's a quick little seminar on professors and academia. it is very
> advanced and you may not understand it at first:
>
One important point you forgot to mention. The influence on IT
syllabus of the various arcane politics involved with Campus IT
infrastructure.
TS Lura wrote:
I feel it's game over, at this point. But maybe you guys have some
suggestion about good arguments that might persuade my professor?
here's a quick little seminar on professors and academia. it is very
advanced and you may not understand it at first:
- professors have a th
TS Lura wrote:
Dear OpenBSD community,
I'm a student for a MSc Advanced Networking degree.
I have a little situation maybe you guys could give me some feedback on.
The issue is that my module leader is refusing even to consider mentioning
OpenBSD, or any BSD in introductory Linux course where
TS Lura writes:
> My professor (the module leader) argue that almost no one is using BSD, and
> those that does is probably 70+ and so it will soon die off, in a humours
> tone. In more serious tone, lack of applications.
I suppose you could get that impression if your news from the outside
worl
People which like S/M (iptables) are able to follow only one argument
- punch them. It's something which makes them happy :-D
Now something more seriously. I think that it will be possible to
write about iptables and provide (eg. as comment) "how-to" for OpenBSD
in same time to show how easy can t
Dear OpenBSD community,
I'm a student for a MSc Advanced Networking degree.
I have a little situation maybe you guys could give me some feedback on.
The issue is that my module leader is refusing even to consider mentioning
OpenBSD, or any BSD in introductory Linux course where the focus is on
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