Re: Asked ChatGPT 4 about contributing to OpenBSD, this was its reply

2023-09-27 Thread Jean-François Simon
7 PM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: Christoff Humphries wrote on Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 01:21:42PM +: Asked ChatGPT 4 about contributing to OpenBSD, this was its reply That's both totally pointless and completely off topic here. Gimme a break, ChatGPT is a fucking language model, so it aims

Re: Asked ChatGPT 4 about contributing to OpenBSD, this was its reply

2023-09-27 Thread Daniele B.
, mere tech stuff.. -- Daniele Bonini Sep 27, 2023 15:54:46 Christoff Humphries : > Contributing to the OpenBSD project or any other open-source project > is a rewarding experience that allows you to learn, improve your > skills, and give back to the community. Here are the

Re: Asked ChatGPT 4 about contributing to OpenBSD, this was its reply

2023-09-27 Thread Christoff Humphries
--- Original Message --- On Wednesday, September 27th, 2023 at 2:07 PM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > > Christoff Humphries wrote on Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 01:21:42PM +: > > > Asked ChatGPT 4 about contributing to OpenBSD, this was its reply > > > Th

Re: Asked ChatGPT 4 about contributing to OpenBSD, this was its reply

2023-09-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Christoff Humphries wrote on Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 01:21:42PM +: > Asked ChatGPT 4 about contributing to OpenBSD, this was its reply That's both totally pointless and completely off topic here. Gimme a break, ChatGPT is a fucking language model, so it aims for very little except gra

Asked ChatGPT 4 about contributing to OpenBSD, this was its reply

2023-09-27 Thread Christoff Humphries
Contributing to the OpenBSD project or any other open-source project is a rewarding experience that allows you to learn, improve your skills, and give back to the community. Here are the steps and considerations to start contributing to the OpenBSD project as a developer: 1. Familiarize Yourself

Re: OpenBSD FUD with Contributing

2023-09-24 Thread misc
On 9/24/23 15:56, Christoff Humphries wrote: ... (Theo still has some of the best quotes on the Internet.) Used this one, for quite some time, as my email signature a few years ago: “You've been smoking something really mind altering, and I think you should share it.” (Theo de Raadt)

OpenBSD FUD with Contributing

2023-09-24 Thread Christoff Humphries
Just wanted to drop a note saying that for perhaps the entire length of the project I've heard how brutal it is to help contribute to the project of OpenBSD (think I've been using OpenBSD on and off since ~1998ish with obecian@ introducing me to it). But being back on the mailing lists I see how th

Re: Running/Contributing to OpenBSD on Core/Libreboot

2022-10-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2022-10-23, AJ wrote: > Hello. I'd like to ask two questions about running OpenBSD on > Core/Librebooted machines: > > (1) I know there's been compatibility issues in the past. Is it still > the case? AFAIK it depends on how well coreboot supports the machine. It's not so much about coreboot

Re: Running/Contributing to OpenBSD on Core/Libreboot

2022-10-24 Thread Stefan Hagen
AJ wrote (2022-10-23 21:04 CEST): > Hello. I'd like to ask two questions about running OpenBSD on > Core/Librebooted machines: Why don't you try it and report? I'm running a coreboot machine since 7.0. It works including audio, suspend, hibernate, video(2d/3d). OpenBSD 7.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #

Running/Contributing to OpenBSD on Core/Libreboot

2022-10-23 Thread AJ
Hello. I'd like to ask two questions about running OpenBSD on Core/Librebooted machines: (1) I know there's been compatibility issues in the past. Is it still the case? More importantly, are they such that the setup would more likely mean just replacing the security risks those projects seek to ad

Re: Contributing to spamd

2020-04-03 Thread prx
Indeed ! Good luck, and thank you ! Le 3 avril 2020 18:49:56 GMT+02:00, Aisha Tammy a écrit : >Oh that is really good to hear :) >Thanks a lot phessler! > >Here is to hoping it can be included in the next release. > >Thanks a lot again, >Aisha > >On 4/3/20 12:28 PM, Denis Fondras wrote: >> On Fr

Re: Contributing to spamd

2020-04-03 Thread Aisha Tammy
Oh that is really good to hear :) Thanks a lot phessler! Here is to hoping it can be included in the next release. Thanks a lot again, Aisha On 4/3/20 12:28 PM, Denis Fondras wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 08:54:22AM -0400, Aisha Tammy wrote: >> Hi devs and all, >> I have been using spamd fo

Re: Contributing to spamd

2020-04-03 Thread Denis Fondras
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 08:54:22AM -0400, Aisha Tammy wrote: > Hi devs and all, > I have been using spamd for quite a while and have been loving it. > I've seen that spamd currently only supports ipv4 and have been > wondering if it was possible to extend it to ipv6. I know that workforce > is al

Re: Contributing to spamd

2020-04-03 Thread Aisha Tammy
Thanks a lot Ingo. I'm currently looking through spamd.c and trying to learn. I'm way too far behind to send any patches yet, lol. I'll slowly work to it. Much appreciated, Aisha On 4/3/20 9:40 AM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Aisha, > > Aisha Tammy wrote on Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 08:54:22AM -0400: >

Re: Contributing to spamd

2020-04-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Aisha, Aisha Tammy wrote on Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 08:54:22AM -0400: > I have been using spamd for quite a while and have been loving it. > I've seen that spamd currently only supports ipv4 and have been > wondering if it was possible to extend it to ipv6. I know that workforce > is always lim

Contributing to spamd

2020-04-03 Thread Aisha Tammy
Hi devs and all, I have been using spamd for quite a while and have been loving it. I've seen that spamd currently only supports ipv4 and have been wondering if it was possible to extend it to ipv6. I know that workforce is always limited so I wanted to know if there is anyway to contribute help

Re: contributing to open source

2016-05-27 Thread Joe Nosay
You are human and I appreciate that. I had to see it. My apologies, I mean you no disrespect. I appreciate that you only quoted what was necessary. Again, my apologies, Warren, you are considerate of others. We do need some code of conduct on both sides here. I'm willing to talk things through. I'

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-20 Thread Dan Farrell
; target > a similar audience: GnoBSD and Comixwall. Comixwall was the equivalent of > pfsense for easy router/firewall management and GnoBSD was an attempt to > make an easy-to-use desktop. Both, however, ended up shutting down after > Theo and various users told them that their projects

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 06:59:32AM -0700, français wrote: > I always find it amusing how OpenBSD is "audited", yet there's not one audit > report on the OpenBSD website. The closest answer I've been able to find on > the mailing list is to review all of the CVS commit logs. Yeah, that's not > opaqu

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-18 Thread Denis Fondras
> Both, however, ended up shutting down after Theo and various users told them > that their projects were worthless and that they weren't contributing to > OpenBSD. > I guess they didn't strongly believe in their added value if they cancelled the project after someone told

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-18 Thread Delan Azabani
You only need a great deal of memory if you wish to use deduplication, which is an optional ZFS feature that some people consider worth the cost. While the complexity and licensing of ZFS make it inappropriate for inclusion in OpenBSD, at least in the near future, let's not throw around insults as

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-18 Thread patric conant
owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of > Peter N. M. Hansteen > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:51 AM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects > GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to &g

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-18 Thread Kevin Gerrard
ney -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Peter N. M. Hansteen Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:51 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthles

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-18 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
sense for easy router/firewall management and GnoBSD was an attempt to make an easy-to-use desktop. Both, however, ended up shutting down after Theo and various users told them that their projects were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD. Because Theo and various users to

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-17 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
an attempt to > make an easy-to-use desktop. Both, however, ended up shutting down after > Theo and various users told them that their projects were worthless and > that > they weren't contributing to OpenBSD. I readed only parts of the posts but, the main reason was, that this

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-17 Thread Jorge Castillo
Look if you don't want to use OpenBSD don't use OpenBSD. If you are so easily swayed over just because someone said something then it's your fault, don't blame others. I like OpenBSD and I will keep using it as long as there are developers that keep it going. No matter what anyone tells me I can't

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-17 Thread frcc
d to target > a similar audience: GnoBSD and Comixwall. Comixwall was the equivalent of > pfsense for easy router/firewall management and GnoBSD was an attempt to > make an easy-to-use desktop. Both, however, ended up shutting down after > Theo and various users told them that their proje

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-17 Thread Johan Petersson
of > pfsense for easy router/firewall management and GnoBSD was an attempt to > make an easy-to-use desktop. Both, however, ended up shutting down after > Theo and various users told them that their projects were worthless and > that > they weren't contributing to OpenBSD. >

Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-17 Thread français
asy router/firewall management and GnoBSD was an attempt to make an easy-to-use desktop. Both, however, ended up shutting down after Theo and various users told them that their projects were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD. Because Theo and various users told them tha

Re: contributing

2014-11-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Juan, Juan J. Fernandez wrote on Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 03:11:51PM -0400: > It's worth to note the author of a manual page may have considered > not to include examples since it could mislead You probably mean "distract"? (I certainly agree that misleading examples should be deleted.) > from

Re: Contributing

2014-11-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jeremy, Jeremy wrote on Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:35:59PM -0500: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:52 AM, andrew fabbro wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: What about writing tutorials/articles? >>> That is most definitely *not* a job for beginners. >> The thread s

Re: Contributing

2014-11-17 Thread Jeremy
To expand on this comment: No, I am not a beginner. I have run OpenBSD production servers since 2008. This is why I feel it is important. I mostly use them as web servers & file servers (samba). I have felt like I needed to give back for some time, but was unsure if I am qualified. I did not i

Re: contributing

2014-11-17 Thread Juan J. Fernandez
On 11/17/14 01:50, Ingo Schwarze wrote: Hi Eric, Eric Furman wrote on Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:40:49PM -0500: OpenBSD's man pages are fantastic, but one area I have noticed that could be improved is that some entries could benefit from having more and/or better examples of use. That is true.

Re: Contributing

2014-11-17 Thread Ryan Freeman
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:34:35PM -0800, andrew fabbro wrote: > What about writing tutorials/articles? > > There's www.openbsdsupport.org which I believe is officially blessed though > it doesn't look too active. Probably for lack of people submitting > articles :-) www.openbsdsupport.org defin

Re: contributing

2014-11-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Eric, Eric Furman wrote on Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:40:49PM -0500: > OpenBSD's man pages are fantastic, but one area I have > noticed that could be improved is that some entries could > benefit from having more and/or better examples of use. That is true. Not all manual pages are short of exa

contributing

2014-11-16 Thread Eric Furman
OpenBSD's man pages are fantastic, but one area I have noticed that could be improved is that some entries could benefit from having more and/or better examples of use.

Re: Contributing

2014-11-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Eric, Eric Furman wrote on Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 09:18:06PM -0500: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> andrew fabbro wrote on Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:34:35PM -0800: >>> What about writing tutorials/articles? >> That is most definitely *not* a job for beginners. >> Writ

Re: Contributing

2014-11-16 Thread Eric Furman
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > andrew fabbro wrote on Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:34:35PM -0800: > > > What about writing tutorials/articles? > > That is most definitely *not* a job for beginners. > Writing good tutorials requires much more expertise and > e

Re: Contributing

2014-11-16 Thread Daniel Ouellet
On 11/16/14 12:50 AM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > andrew fabbro wrote on Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:34:35PM -0800: > >> What about writing tutorials/articles? It's been a recuring talked before and just do not work. > That is most definitely *not* a job for beginners. > Writing good tuto

Re: Contributing

2014-11-16 Thread Daniel Ouellet
> I'm not sure how I formed the opinion openbsdsupport.org was blessed > (probably someone's forum post somewhere) so thanks for the correction. It never been blessed, it is a social experiment to prove a recurring point that it doesn't work. Many talked a bout it, none actually do the work. Dan

Re: Contributing

2014-11-16 Thread andrew fabbro
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > What about writing tutorials/articles? > > That is most definitely *not* a job for beginners. > The thread starter did not describe himself as a "beginner," just a non-programmer. Since he was referring to old content on the web site, pe

Re: Contributing

2014-11-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Andrew, andrew fabbro wrote on Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:34:35PM -0800: > What about writing tutorials/articles? That is most definitely *not* a job for beginners. Writing good tutorials requires much more expertise and experience than writing reference documentation or hunting for bugs. > The

Re: Contributing

2014-11-15 Thread andrew fabbro
What about writing tutorials/articles? There's www.openbsdsupport.org which I believe is officially blessed though it doesn't look too active. Probably for lack of people submitting articles :-) Of course if you have a blog or web site you can write OpenBSD stuff for it. I know I've sometimes s

Re: Contributing

2014-11-15 Thread Jeremiah Ford
Thanks everyone. These sound like good places for me to start. -Original Message- From: "Ingo Schwarze" Sent: ‎11/‎15/‎2014 5:47 AM To: "Jeremy" Cc: "misc@openbsd.org" Subject: Re: Contributing Hi Jeremy, Jeremy wrote on Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 06

Re: Contributing

2014-11-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jeremy, Jeremy wrote on Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 06:33:57PM -0500: > I very much believe the OpenBSD is important and needs support. > I am not a programmer, and I do not have money to donate. > What other ways are there to contribute? In addition to what Ted said, one other way is to help improv

Re: Contributing

2014-11-14 Thread ag@gmail
> On Nov 14, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 18:37, ian kremlin wrote: >> If you are fluent in two or more languages you might be able to help >> out with translations. Bug-hunting (with proper reporting habits!) is >> always appreciated too. > > I think the tra

Re: Contributing

2014-11-14 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 18:37, ian kremlin wrote: > If you are fluent in two or more languages you might be able to help > out with translations. Bug-hunting (with proper reporting habits!) is > always appreciated too. I think the translation effort is dead. Better to help out by teaching English

Re: Contributing

2014-11-14 Thread ian kremlin
If you are fluent in two or more languages you might be able to help out with translations. Bug-hunting (with proper reporting habits!) is always appreciated too. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jeremy wrote: > Hello, > > I very much believe the OpenBSD is important and needs support. I am not a

Contributing

2014-11-14 Thread Jeremy
Hello, I very much believe the OpenBSD is important and needs support. I am not a programmer, and I do not have money to donate. What other ways are there to contribute? I remember the website used to list ways to contribute in various ways, but I can only seem to find monetary donations on the w

Re: Contributing to OpenBSD documentation

2014-06-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-06-03, Enric Morales wrote: > Hi Mark, Anders, > > On 03 Jun 2014 12:40, Marc Espie wrote: >> Find stuff that doesn't work properly and figure out what's going on. >> >> Even without code, complete *reproduceable* bug reports are invaluable >> resources. >> >> (hint: anything that dumps

Re: Contributing to OpenBSD documentation

2014-06-03 Thread Enric Morales
Hi Mark, Anders, On 03 Jun 2014 12:40, Marc Espie wrote: > Find stuff that doesn't work properly and figure out what's going on. > > Even without code, complete *reproduceable* bug reports are invaluable > resources. > > (hint: anything that dumps cores is a bug). I too was trying to find areas

Re: Contributing to OpenBSD documentation

2014-06-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 08:28:42PM +1000, Anders Østergaard Jensen-Waud wrote: > * Translate OpenBSD manuals/FAQ/documentation to Danish/Scandinavian > (I am Danish) > * Help out with some of the existing documentation or fill gaps where required > * Something completely different Find stuff that

Contributing to OpenBSD documentation

2014-06-03 Thread Anders Østergaard Jensen-Waud
Hello, I am interesting in helping out on the OpenBSD project where I can. I am proficient in C but am not knowledgeable enough to contribute to OS/systems level programming. So I have been looking for other ways to contribute and thought documentation might be a good place to start. What are the

Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]

2006-10-30 Thread Breen Ouellette
Tobias Weingartner wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Breen Ouellette wrote: I feel that if the user base can meet the financial needs of the project then the user base is doing its part. Unfortunately, I know of several people who use OpenBSD that will never send in a flat penny. The

Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]

2006-10-30 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Breen Ouellette wrote: > > I feel that if the user base can meet the financial needs of the project > then the user base is doing its part. Unfortunately, I know of several > people who use OpenBSD that will never send in a flat penny. These are > the same pe

Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]

2006-10-30 Thread Breen Ouellette
Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2006, Breen Ouellette wrote: I honestly do not know as I do not have access to the size of the user base nor the financial needs of the project. If 5000 users gave $100 per year to the project that would be half a million dollars. Are there 5000 users? Is hal

Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]

2006-10-29 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006, Breen Ouellette wrote: > Eliah Kagan wrote: > > That would still be most OpenBSD users, wouldn't it? > > I honestly do not know as I do not have access to the size of the user base > nor the financial needs of the project. If 5000 users gave $100 per year to > the project tha

Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]

2006-10-28 Thread ropers
On 29/10/06, Breen Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't feel that Linux users whining and complaining about 'missing' (aka unnecessary, superfluous) features is shameful behaviour because it seems to be expected behaviour in these communities, or at least segments of these communities.

Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]

2006-10-28 Thread Eliah Kagan
On 10/28/06, Breen Ouellette wrote: That same behaviour of expecting magic fixes, if it were applied to a larger community like that of North America (sorry if you aren't from this continent), would not be shameful in the least. People in North American culture whine and complain for fixes from h

Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]

2006-10-28 Thread Breen Ouellette
Eliah Kagan wrote: On 10/28/06, Breen Ouellette wrote: The shame enters the picture when you place expectations for additional output from the people giving freely. I see people griping all the time for this or that feature, or support for this or that hardware. I see this from people who contri

Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]

2006-10-28 Thread Eliah Kagan
On 10/28/06, Breen Ouellette wrote: The shame enters the picture when you place expectations for additional output from the people giving freely. I see people griping all the time for this or that feature, or support for this or that hardware. I see this from people who contribute nothing and nev

Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]

2006-10-28 Thread Breen Ouellette
Eliah Kagan wrote: That would still be most OpenBSD users, wouldn't it? I honestly do not know as I do not have access to the size of the user base nor the financial needs of the project. If 5000 users gave $100 per year to the project that would be half a million dollars. Are there 5000 use