Re: qt-mt.pc

2007-02-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 04:41:06PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Trying to compile twinkle-0.1 I am getting this ./configure error: checking for qt-mt = 3.3.0 qt-mt 4.0... Package qt-mt was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `qt-mt.pc' to

Re: CUPS

2007-02-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 11:46:54AM +0100, Tang Tse wrote: Hello, I know maybe this is a newbie question ( i came from linux). I tried to set up openbsd cups printing server for linux workstations. The printer in question is a HP LaserJet 1320 attached to a usb port. The big problems came

Re: binary updates

2007-02-27 Thread Marc Espie
The main reason we don't have binary stable updates is that no-one we trust has the time to build them. It means maintaining an extra machine that would only track stable, do builds, do the equivalent of releases. One release every six months is a lot of work already. If people want to provide

Re: pkg_add gives error and then installs

2007-03-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:43:52PM -0500, Peter wrote: export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.0/packages/i386/ for i in bash \ wget do pkg_add $i done Don't do that. When you can, don't put pkg_add in a loop, but use the whole list of packages you want to add in a

Re: updating installed ports

2007-03-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 11:36:33PM -0500, Peter wrote: Le Samedi 10 Mars 2007 03:43, Lars Hansson a icrit : Peter wrote: Are you serious? I thought that was only for straight packages. It actually fetches code from third party repositories? What 3rd party repositories? What are

Re: pkg_add -ui auto update choses lower version of package by default if there is only one option

2007-03-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 05:50:45PM +0530, Siju George wrote: Hi, I tried today to update my packages with the $sudo pkg_add -ui command. I found that it selected lower versions of the packages automatically :-( as senn in the sample below. Candidates for updating

Re: Contradictory statement on vulnerability

2007-03-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:31:33PM -0800, smith wrote: OpenBSD developers add code and fix bugs using a program called CVS. CVS has the ability to create branches like a tree. The main tree trunk is -current. After a certain amount of time, usually a couple of months before the release

Re: pkg_add -ui auto update choses lower version of package by default if there is only one option

2007-03-17 Thread Marc Espie
Maybe you built it locally and you are `in advance' compared to the official snapshot ?

Re: Is the PERL in base stock?

2007-03-17 Thread Marc Espie
The perl in 4.1 is not 100% stock, and the one in 4.2 will be slightly farther from that. We have a few minor fixes and adaptations that are not in 5.8.8: - handling of Ecopy in various pod converters - path lookup to handle /usr/local along /usr and possibly a few others I'm not too familiar

Re: cat.c includes

2007-03-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 02:07:25PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Nick ! wrote: On 3/19/07, hiren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, i found it interesting that cat.c compiles after removing these includes: #include ctype.h #include err.h #include

Re: ODBC on OpenBSD

2007-03-20 Thread Marc Espie
Another possibility is perl. I've been using DBD::Proxy/DBI::Proxyserver across Unix - Windows to get an HTML::Mason app directly talking to an Access database, and I'm in the process of migrating it to DBIx::Class (often enough Catalyst). This does just work. The only downside is that you need

Re: groff update?

2007-03-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 08:11:17AM +0200, Gareth wrote: Is there any chance of a newer version of groff (1.18 or 1.19) being imported into the tree? Yes

Re: Weird pkg_info behavior?

2008-10-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:47:56PM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM, James Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Slim Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get package info for a file not already downloaded or installed

Re: : : Testing rthreads

2008-10-21 Thread Marc Espie
On 2008-10-21, Raimo Niskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not seen this in any FAQ. It looks just as when building patches, but as you say, there are exceptions, and it is hard to know if this is an exception. It is also hard to know if it installs as librthread or as libpthread. Reading

Re: pkg_add error: +CONTENTS does not exist

2008-11-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 07:05:56PM +0100, Louis V. Lambrecht wrote: Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2008-11-05, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I been updating packages from 4.3 to 4.4 but my box rebooted due to a power outage and now I'm getting the following error while updating packages:

Re: OT, .. but eCommerce?

2008-12-13 Thread Marc Espie
There are oodles of plugins for drupal for ecommerce sites. I have mostly not ported these because I don't have the usage for it, but it's generally very easy to do (put it under sites/all/modules, check that it works, package). I remember a framework called Hdndel based off catalyst (maybe

Re: package integrity, security and checks. .... where are they ?

2008-12-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 05:30:32PM +1100, Damien Miller wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, spamtester spamtester wrote: It does not matter what faith one places in the pki or webs of trust (gpg/pgp style). Most linux distributions have had their packages signed for years (for example at ruxcon -

Re: XBox360 streaming?

2008-12-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:06:15PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone suceeded in streaming video to their xbox from an OpenBSD server? I have a port of pupnp, which i used with ushare. Sure, the xbox could see the

Re: package integrity, security and checks. .... where are they ?

2008-12-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:53:01AM +0100, Martin Schrvder wrote: 2008/12/15 Marc Espie es...@nerim.net: Heck, we're further along the curve than most others. If you look closely at cough OpenSUSE has signed packages and signed repos for years. So have many other Linux distros. OpenBSD

Re: package integrity, security and checks. .... where are they ?

2008-12-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 05:21:30PM +0100, Martin Schrvder wrote: 2008/12/17 Marc Espie es...@nerim.net: We think it's worse to sign packages than not to sign them if you don't have a fairly strict process that ensures you have a correct chain of trust. Agreed. PGP provides that, but I can

Re: package integrity, security and checks. .... where are they ?

2008-12-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 03:19:09PM +1100, spamtester spamtester wrote: I know that i have the freedom to do this. However, my original question might have been a bit to bitchy. The issue here is that, openbsd devs donate their good time making packages. Which is great. However, if they could

Re: Users of Opera -- Stability?

2008-12-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:41:05AM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Aaron W. Hsu arcf...@sacrideo.us wrote: Hey All, I wanted to check with any users here that are using the opera web browser. Can you please mention what Window Manager you use? I am

Re: package integrity, security and checks. .... where are they ?

2008-12-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:46:10AM -0600, Matthew Weigel wrote: Like Marc said, signing packages when the process doesn't protect the integrity of the signatures, the source used to compile the binaries that are signed, and the binaries themselves, you are providing a misleading sense of

Re: gd without xbase?

2008-12-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:40:38PM -0600, Aaron Martinez wrote: I am running 4.4 stable on i386 for the sole purpose of running nagios. So that I could get visualizations on the statusmap, nagios docs say that gd is required. I have performed just a minimal install, bsd, base44, etc44 and

Re: emul.linux not playing well with bsd.mp

2009-01-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 03:55:33AM -0500, Predrag Punosevac wrote: I was just wonderinig if people have noticed that kernel emulator for linux binaries is not playing well with bsd.mp kernel. It was previously observed by Aron Tsu that Opera was locking on bsd.mp. In my experience this is

Re: pkg_add stems not working for some packages

2011-10-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 09:55:06AM +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: I can do: $ sudo pkg_add vim--gtk2 but not: $ sudo pkg_add mutt--sasl-sidebar-slang-compressed Can't find mutt--sasl-sidebar-slang-compressed Too many dashes after the stems-indicator? Running OpenBSD 4.9

Re: KDE 4 on OpenBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 05:47:37PM +0400, Vadim Zhukov wrote: At least I hope to get it more or less stable in November. KDE 4 requires (directly, but mostly indirectly) many updates and additions to existing packages. And there are a few problems remaining to be fixed, like co-existing KDE 3

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:33:58AM -0300, Marcos Ariel Laufer wrote: This idiot, zantgo, has been bothering everybody on a mexican (spanish speaking) openbsd list and refusing to read the faq or manuals. Imagine that on that mailing list they tend to help everybody including the least

Re: Multi-byte nvi

2011-10-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 07:41:20PM +0200, Sime Ramov wrote: Since OpenBSD libc now supports multi-byte characters, are there any forthcoming plans to bring this support to nvi? There is no editor in base which supports it and I don't want to install or use vim. You should read undeadly, in

Re: C question

2011-11-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 11:09:25PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011, Doug Brewer wrote: I have the following lines in C: struct foo *bar[10]; If I want to clear out that structure, should I use memset(bar, 0, sizeof(bar)); or memset(bar, 0, sizeof(*bar));

Re: Packages issues

2011-11-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:56:29AM +1100, John Tate wrote: Yeah I know, it just seems like an odd dependency. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Antoine Jacoutot ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote: * For some reason anjuta comes with Avahi, which doesn't seem to make any sense. Why? anjuta

Re: Packages issues

2011-11-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 09:36:01AM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 09:06:35AM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: Well, if you feel like untangling the dependency nightmare that comes with modern desktop systems, good luck ! Yes, the dependency chain for modern desktop is quite

Re: makewhatis on /usr

2011-11-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 04:31:57PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: Hi Thomas, Thomas de Grivel wrote on Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 03:32:03PM +0100: From weekly output : Rebuilding whatis databases: /usr/libexec/makewhatis: Can't create /usr/share/man/whatis.db: Read-only file system

Re: makewhatis on /usr

2011-11-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:14:44AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011, Carson Chittom wrote: Thomas de Grivel tho...@lowh.net writes: Hi, From weekly output : Rebuilding whatis databases: /usr/libexec/makewhatis: Can't create /usr/share/man/whatis.db: Read-only file

Re: Which version of Firefox most secure?

2011-11-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:38:42AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:57:42AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 07:26:38AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: AdSuck from packages/ports and whitelist mode (need some work from start to allow JS/cookies only

Re: Dennis Ritchie

2011-11-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 03:54:19AM +0100, Thomas de Grivel wrote: On 10/14/11 03:22, Tito Mari Francis Escaqo wrote: Dennis Ritchie should be the patron saint of software development and engineering. :) No matter how disgusting the notion of patron is to me, I feel Ada Lovelace would have

Re: [5.0] pkg_add too many FTP connections

2011-11-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:04:10PM +0100, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org wrote: Is there a way to limit the number of FTP connections for pkg_add? The number of FTP connections corresponds to the number of packages. Your

Re: [5.0] pkg_add too many FTP connections

2011-11-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:37:18AM +0100, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: Hello, I'm trying to update packages with pkg_add via ftp : # pkg_add -ui Error from ftp://ftp.irisa.fr/pub/OpenBSD/5.0/packages/amd64/gperf-3.0.4.tgz 421 There are too many connections from your internet address.

Re: [5.0] pkg_add too many FTP connections

2011-11-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 06:18:54AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: I found two different problems that seemed to be cured in two different ways. Your network may be the problem. I have access to two different wifi sources. They are both different connections completely and at the same location.

Re: how to find dependencies when building a new kernel

2011-12-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:09:25PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011-11-29, Torsten Valentin valen...@4ss.de wrote: welcome to the ignore list of many developers. You aren't even following directions on how to hurt yourself properly without wasting people's time. I always found

Re: Easy way to follow -current, a write-up

2011-12-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 08:01:43PM +0100, Sime Ramov wrote: I just wrote this document outlining the steps I do to keep up with -current: http://ramov.com/writing/obsd-current.html Hope someone finds it useful. Bad advice. As discussed with Antoine, sysmerge should be run *after* the

Re: Easy way to follow -current, a write-up

2011-12-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 10:48:02PM +0100, Sime Ramov wrote: * Marc Espie es...@nerim.net [2011-12-03 20:36+0100]: As discussed with Antoine, sysmerge should be run *after* the update, not before, even though you may have to reboot an extra time. I am not sure about one more thing. Do I

Re: Short adsuck guide (local resolver setup)

2011-12-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 03:29:38PM +0100, ?ime Ramov wrote: I could think of a few reasons. Someone might not know about existence of some software in which case it might be useful to them. Personal reference as I might forget some things after a long time. Simple matter of sharing. In

Re: Short adsuck guide (local resolver setup)

2011-12-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 10:32:50AM -0500, Daniel Villarreal wrote: Mr. Espie, why do you presume that I'm only interested in official OpenBSD documentation ? Should I only read emails from Theo and the developers, then ? B I have totally nothing against 3rd party USEFUL

Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 01:07:36PM -0300, Javier Bassi wrote: And remember that every time you forget the body tag, Tim Berners Lee kills a kitten Good, sooner or later that pervert will get caught. It's already enough that he got away inflicting the internet on the masses.

Re: What is wrong with this pf config

2011-12-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:59:12AM +1100, John Tate wrote: I remember last time I was using OpenBSD (I had a hiatus) ^^^ Sounds like a good idea. Can you do the same thing with misc@ ? okthxbye

Re: dual dvi with 2 monitors, 1 dvi is not detected

2012-01-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 03:52:40PM +0100, Didier Wiroth wrote: Hello, I've purchased a zotac nvidia geforce 210 graphic card. it has a dual dvi output, which I was hoping to use with xorg and 2 monitors. Note for the future: don't buy nvidia cards. nvidia doesn't give their specs. (hoping

UPGRADE DAMNIT

2012-01-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 05:16:15PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: I'm surprised you've had so much help. Personally and If I had time I'd want to find out the problem but I'd be wiping and reinstalling from scratch anyway, especially with an unknown cause. Of course having install scripts makes

Re: 'pkg_add -u' question

2012-01-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 01:01:50PM +0001, Jason McIntyre wrote: hmm. i would argue that it's more rightly fw_update(8)'s place to go into that level of detail, not pkg_add(1). I agree. I'm not too fond of fw_update(1), though synching to the kernel makes it a necessity. And pkg_add(1)

Re: use trap command in a script

2012-01-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 04:47:04PM +0400, Wesley M. wrote: Therefore if i run manually this : trap 'ctrl-c detected!' 2 it works. But trap 'echo Kill detected!' 9 doesn't work. Why ? Why i can't use it in a script? RTFM from signal(3): Except for the SIGKILL and SIGSTOP signals, the

Re: OpenBSD 5.0-current (GENERIC) #65: Thu Nov 3 00:58:36 MDT 2011

2012-01-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 06:10:27AM -0500, Richard Thornton wrote: Nick, Do you ever lighten up? Were you the guy correcting the professor every few minutes annoying everyone? Seriously! What happened to you?! My background is Solaris and SuSE, not OpenBSD, but when Solaris 9 failed to format

Re: How to add new non-continuous A6 partition after install

2012-01-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 05:26:33AM +, lbvvbooo lbvvbooo wrote: For kinds of reasons, my disk is partitionized like this: 1st partition is for Windows system(Primary) 2nd is for OpenBSD(Primary) 3rd is Windows extended partition(Extended) 4th is originally not used, now I created a new

Re: How to add new non-continuous A6 partition after install

2012-01-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:04:13PM +0100, David Vasek wrote: Still I don't think everything works with more than one A6 parition. It didn't work for me. Putting single FFS file system directly in the other fdisk partition works, but there is no standard fdisk partition ID for such a partition.

Re: n00b questions -- keyboard messed up

2012-01-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:33:01AM +0100, Ariane van der Steldt wrote: KDE also had a browser (konqueror). I don't know if KDE4 still provides it. Konqueror, as shipped in KDE3, is pretty dated and will probably not handle many sites, so won't display facebook or twitter (which may considered

Re: Build libc separately

2012-01-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 02:59:43PM +0400, Serguey Kuritsin wrote: I just want to learn how to do it. And I know it is possible. I do not expect extensive learning from someone who will explain me the meaning of every line in every makefile and build system configs. I just want to some starting

Re: .libs files (e.g. .libs-samba-3.0.37p1) when upgrading

2012-02-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 09:43:51AM +1300, richardtoo...@paradise.net.nz wrote: $ pkg_info -A | grep samba .libs-samba-3.0.37p1 Stub libraries for .libs1-samba-3.0.37p1 .libs-samba-3.5.6p4 Stub libraries for .libs1-samba-3.5.6p4 gvfs-smb-1.10.1 samba module for GVFS samba-3.6.1p1

Re: Keeping installed ports up-to-date

2012-02-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:50:31AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:06:26PM +1030, Giridhari wrote: HELO, whatbs the correct procedure for keeping ports that are installed up to date when the system is updated with CVS? Do I need to make uninstall the ports,

Re: Keeping installed ports up-to-date

2012-02-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 04:14:06PM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: So what I said above will NOT work with these troublesome packages? I have been using all of the make commands when working on ports, stuff like make uninstall, etc. The Porters Handbook seems to suggest that roughly this procedure

Re: Keeping installed ports up-to-date

2012-02-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 06:04:39PM -0600, Carson Chittom wrote: Marc Espie es...@nerim.net writes: And out-of-date will tell you which of your ports you need to rebuild. One longer, more sure-fire procedure would be to pkg_info -q -m -P -a list pkg_delete /var/db/pkg/* dpb -I list

Re: rsync screams about read-only filesystem

2012-03-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:47:24AM -0500, Jiri B wrote: Hello, I have a script which mount read-write a filesystem and then runs rsync to synchronize. The strange thing is, that although the filesystem is read-write for the OS, rsync still has some problem with that. %--- + mount +

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 07:41:47PM +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: I also agree with those who pointed out that doing experimental OS installs on a machine you care about is not a particularly smart thing to do. It's also fairly stupid to ever do an install without first backing up

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 10:10:12AM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: yes, scrollback is something that was sacrificed on the installer to keep it able to fit on a floppy (contrary to another contribution to this thread). Unfortunate, annoying, and unfortunately, I got no better ideas. Is it true

Re: Request for a new list: trolling

2012-03-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 02:33:50PM +0100, 0xAAA wrote: It is quite interesting that any trolling message gets more attention than a real, OpenBSD related problem (view the threads of the stupid guy which cant read installation instructions...) My suggestion: We create a new

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:15:08PM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: With multiple drives, especially for bulky softraid setups, it might get overwhelming pretty fast. What's the relevant info, then ? drive names ? drive sizes ? existing mbr or disklabels ? At the most, remembering you can shell

Re: Which automake and autoconfig versions to compile NTOP v4?

2012-03-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 07:42:43PM +, Kaya Saman wrote: Hi, I'm trying to compile the latest NTOP version 4.1.0 on OpenBSD RELEASE 5.0 x64 but am running into issues regarding automake and autoconfig. Basically I installed: automake-1.11.1p2 autoconf-2.67 The install

Re: Which automake and autoconfig versions to compile NTOP v4?

2012-03-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:44:15AM +, Kaya Saman wrote: my issue was how to get the Ntop config script to understand that automake and autoconf **are** installed on the system!!! Luckily a friendly person did explain that I should first **export** the versions then run the config gen

vmmap: bad software everywhere

2011-05-31 Thread Marc Espie
People not following development too closely may not be aware of it, but we've had a lot of fun with amd64 recently. Specifically, Ariane committed a new vmmap implementation that tends to actually use the 64 bits address space, in userland. She even has some more nasty diff that does its best

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

2011-06-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 06:11:31PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: How comes nobody in other OSes noticed ? Well, people probably did, and tweaked their allocators to work, by using preferably the low address space

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

2011-06-04 Thread Marc Espie
Well, the official fix for mono is in, from the mono team. Guess what ? Mono uses MAP_32BIT if it's available. From Linux's mmap manpage: MAP_32BIT (since Linux 2.4.20, 2.6) Put the mapping into the first 2 Gigabytes of the process address space. This flag is

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

2011-06-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 09:46:48AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 06:11:31PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: How comes nobody

Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-06 Thread Marc Espie
How about he proves to us he can write good lisp code first, by maintaining ecl and maxima and sbcl for a while ?

Re: Fixing pkg_add Fatal error: can't parse object version error after 4.9 upgrade

2011-06-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:57:42AM -0700, yary wrote: I have installed my own build of perl into /usr/local which might be the cause- though it can also happen with the system perl, All one has to do is install a binary/XS version of a library that system perl has a non-binary version of, in a

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-08 Thread Marc Espie
Like I said before, there is amply enough work in the ports tree for lisp hackers. Go work on porting clisp to other OpenBSD architectures. Give us something concrete. Talk is very, very cheap.

Re: OT: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 02:00:03PM +0200, Ariane van der Steldt wrote: On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 02:24:14AM +0200, Thomas de Grivel wrote: Just like C, OCaml has skills in its semantics, but they both suck at grammar : parsing ml requires a full lex/yacc above and below gcc. Not really

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:20:22PM -0400, vadi...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I really did not want to start any flame. I just thought that getting answer from the mailing list would be faster than spending my time studying source code of the new system. What you should do is relearn the proper

Re: Question about .PATH.o in Makefiles

2011-07-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 09:52:58PM -0700, Philip Guenther wrote: On success, A rule *MUST* create the file named by $@. Telling make that you'll create port.o and then creating ${OBJ_DIR}/port.o results in *exactly* the behavior you describe: every build regenerates the involved file because

Re: Thanks a lot to all devs of OpenBSD

2011-08-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 05:00:46PM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote: (and main link which caused that http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html) This link makes me a little sad. I don't quite get why that guy mentions that FreeBSD ports has problems, but then mentions

Re: Thanks a lot to all devs of OpenBSD

2011-08-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 01:13:14PM +0400, Vadim Zhukov wrote: On Sunday 28 August 2011 19:50:51 Marc Espie wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 05:00:46PM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote: (and main link which caused that http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.h tml

Re: kaizen fetch method in make install clean with ports?

2011-08-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:10:12AM +0800, f5b wrote: are you joking? sorry, no patch with last mail,no program skill with me, poor English. my country. other mirror sites are very quick. 2.time wasted in downloading abc.tar.gz from the second/third mirror but auto deleted after downloaded.

Re: Thanks a lot to all devs of OpenBSD

2011-08-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 09:42:53AM -0500, Matthew Weigel wrote: On 8/28/2011 10:50 AM, Marc Espie wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 05:00:46PM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote: (and main link which caused that http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html) This link

Re: question about documentation

2011-09-02 Thread Marc Espie
Well, priviledge, seperation, implimentation. Those are all common mispellings used by some OpenBSD developers. Mispellings none the less, which have to be fixed in official documentation, of course.

Re: rsync and iconv

2011-09-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 06:19:30PM +0200, Gerald Holl wrote: Are there any ways to get rsync with iconv support without building it from source? And why was iconv support dropped from the rsync binary? If you really think that's useful, we could add a flavor. It was dropped because rsync is a

Re: rsync and iconv

2011-09-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 02:35:09PM +0200, Gerald Holl wrote: On 2011-09-03 13:38, Marc Espie wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 06:19:30PM +0200, Gerald Holl wrote: Are there any ways to get rsync with iconv support without building it from source? And why was iconv support dropped from

Re: Why aren't you running -current?

2011-09-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 01:56:55AM +0200, roberth wrote: Seriously, why? Funnily enough, a lot of people interpreted that as why aren't you running -current on all your machines ? which is obviously a different question, with a legitimate different answer. Most specifically, development

Re: GCC 4.2.4?

2011-09-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:17:36PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I'm interested in seeing if (1) patches have been applied to fix my template error problem (http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21656); and (2) the compiler/linker is using hardened settings (I know 4.2.1 is not hardened

Re: no packages for amd64 snapshot

2011-09-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 01:25:40PM +0200, Landry Breuil wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Gregory Edigarov g...@bestnet.kharkov.ua wrote: Hello list, is this intentional, or there is some problem that prevents amd64 snapshot packags from being built? The gremlins stole them.

Re: no packages for amd64 snapshot

2011-09-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 05:25:29PM +0200, ropers wrote: On 23 September 2011 04:46, Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote: man dpb While I appreciate the dubious humour of these questions repeating near *every friggin release*, I also award you this badge for your reply:

Re: no packages for amd64 snapshot

2011-09-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 02:19:04PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: this is not a tool for the masses. Even if it WERE in base and there were a man page for it, I do not believe the developers would be interested in having people look at the FAQ and say, ...cool, I should do this! Shoot...the

Re: no packages for amd64 snapshot

2011-09-25 Thread Marc Espie
To put things in perspective, the dpb framework is now about two years old. It was a bit quirky and experimental until 4.9. The addition of /usr/ports/infrastructure/man to man.conf happened a little before 5.0. So, people wanting to build packages *for current* should have no problem accessing

Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up

2011-10-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 09:10:16PM +, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote: Loganaden Velvindron loganaden at gmail.com writes: If we don't shake things up, things will not change ! Running -current and testing diffs _helps_ OpenBSD development significantly. The problem, IMO, how process is

Re: Listing Packages Installed From Source

2009-06-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:03:18PM -0700, Michael R. Littlejohn wrote: that will help me accomplish my goal. I want to be able to have full control over installation and uninstallation of source compiled packages. then use the ports tree infrastructure. you can write your own ports and track

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 07:39:41AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: Manure alert! On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 02:16:39PM +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: Hi! On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 02:11:21PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: What is wrong with CVS? And no I am not talking about the

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-26 Thread Marc Espie
There's also ample room for improvements in some of the algorithms cvs currently use. It positively SUCKS at merging stuff. It can't even work with its own keywords properly. I no longer count the number of times I've had a *conflict* after a merge on code I committed myself in another tree, just

Re: pkg_add hangs downloading several packages.

2009-07-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 02:27:34PM +0200, Jesus Sanchez wrote: Hi list, using 4.5 I've a little script to add a few packages after a fresh install, basically it's a pkg_add -i a b c line with ~40 packages to install, but at some point after some packages get installed, the connection

Re: bastille day in calendar

2009-07-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 01:40:07PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: hi there, Jul 14 Storming of the Bastille by the citizens of Paris, 1789 Jul 14 Bastille Day is this needed twice? Yes, different calendars (historical vs. holidays). Same roots, different significance.

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:59:42PM -0400, Stephen Takacs wrote: That might be a solution if you're stricly using package/ports. But consider what happens when you manually build and install other programs that came in the form of plain old source code tarballs (make make install, etc.) Most

Re: stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby after make update on openBSD 4.5 i386

2009-08-17 Thread Marc Espie
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org If xbase45 and xshare45 are part of X windows, then I haven't installed them because I didn't plan to use the x-windows on this test machine. A lot of ports and packages are dependant on x windows stuff being

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:02:07PM -0400, Luis Useche wrote: Do I have to do something else here? It seems like this discussion cooled down a bit. Is the patch in review? Is the patch been considered for inclusion? Are there any changes I can do to make more suitable for inclusion? I don't

Re: Ports isn't working for me...

2009-10-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 04:40:37PM -0400, Chris wrote: I'm using obsd4.5, following current. I installed php5 using ports. I realized that I forgot to include something in the compile options. I went back to add it, and now it won't reinstall. I added --enable-mbstring to the compile flags

Re: Questions for OpenBGPd Developers

2009-10-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:50:58PM -0700, Barry Friedman wrote: Hi, thanks everyone for the information, this helps give me an idea of the scope and effort involved in getting OpenBGPd onto Linux. I'll look at the OpenSSH project to see how the portability is added without cluttering up the

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