I think we probably have enough money.
I'll check things tomorrow (it's nearly zzz time)
and tell you how things go.
A big collective THANK YOU to everyone so far. I'll be sure to send personal
notes (in private of course) once I've cross-checked everything.
A new laptop has been ordered, and I shoul have enough left for a bit more
power (expect new dpb thingies).
I've tried to reply to everyone, but there are some obvious anti-spam measures
in the paypal addresses, so maybe some of you are not going to see it ?
So thanks again. Don't hesitate to tel
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 02:34:44PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote:
> A new laptop has been ordered, and I shoul have enough left for a bit more
> power (expect new dpb thingies).
So I got the new laptop, and I'm playing a bit with it.
One pleasant surprise is... windows7. Apparently, it inc
The gfx appears to be fully supported.
Oh yeah, and the fan turns at 3000 RPM, according to the sensors ;)
OpenBSD 4.7-current (GENERIC.MP) #556: Mon Apr 26 21:12:33 MDT 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8700 @ 2.53GHz ("
On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 11:39:00AM +0200, Christopher Zimmermann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the following piece of code compiles fine using g++ 4.2.4, but
> fails using g++ 3.3.5 in the base system:
>
> error: operands to ?: have different types
>
> It is part of ptlib, which is the base library for opal
On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 12:54:42PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote:
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Christopher Zimmermann
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 1 May 2010 14:11:22 +0200 Marc Espie wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 11:39:00AM +0200, Christopher
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:13:59AM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote:
>
> Would a patch for this be desirable? I have very limited hacking time,
> but I could try to come up with something over the weekend/next week. It
> should, of course, be extensively tested before applying.
>
> (OTOH, the curren
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 01:13:34PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> Is this the intended behaviour?
Yeah. it's meant to find where a file you know lives.
You want pkglocatedb.
I think your guys are into elaborate schemes and totally forgetting low-level
tech/social engineering attack.
Remember that most people out there don't understand https, they will just see
that little lock and think "I'm secure"... yeah, sure, from 3rd party. But
it's so easy to set up a fake site
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:15:06AM +0200, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is this working ever?
Yes
> Yesterday I was trying to add a certain packages and wanted them to
> reside in the very separate base (/usr/opt) so them will be easilly
> removed after my trial of them.
> I did 'pkg_add -L
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 07:20:33AM -0430, Andres Perera wrote:
> about AddCreateDelete.pm r1.15
>
> 1. -L was never there (adding back? had to go through the entire log
> for the file to verify "adding back")
Of course it was not. you'll have to check the whole history of the tools
to figure out w
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 11:59:29PM +, Miod Vallat wrote:
> driver level? The limit of profanity comments in the kernel source code?
There's a limit for that ? possibly in bisounours-land, not in our country !
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:39:28PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Mike Williams wrote:
> > The style(9) man page contains the statement
> >
> > Don't use the same name for a struct tag and a typedef, as this makes
> > the code unusable from C++.
> >
> > My question
People not following development too closely may not be aware of it,
but we've had a lot of fun with amd64 recently.
Specifically, Ariane committed a new vmmap implementation that tends to
actually use the 64 bits address space, in userland. She even has some
more nasty diff that does its best to
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 06:11:31PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Marc Espie wrote:
>
> > How comes nobody in other OSes noticed ? Well, people probably did, and
> > tweaked their allocators to "work", by using preferably the low
Well, the official fix for mono is in, from the mono team.
Guess what ? Mono uses MAP_32BIT if it's available.
>From Linux's mmap manpage:
MAP_32BIT (since Linux 2.4.20, 2.6)
Put the mapping into the first 2 Gigabytes of the process
address space. This flag is onl
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 09:46:48AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Marc Espie wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 06:11:31PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Marc Espie wrote:
> >>
> >> >
How about he proves to us he can write good lisp code first, by maintaining
ecl and maxima and sbcl for a while ?
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:57:42AM -0700, yary wrote:
> I have installed my own build of perl into /usr/local which might be
> the cause- though it can also happen with the system perl, All one has
> to do is install a binary/XS version of a library that system perl has
> a non-binary version of, i
Like I said before, there is amply enough work in the ports tree for lisp
hackers.
Go work on porting clisp to other OpenBSD architectures. Give us something
concrete.
Talk is very, very cheap.
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 02:00:03PM +0200, Ariane van der Steldt wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 02:24:14AM +0200, Thomas de Grivel wrote:
> > Just like C, OCaml has skills in its semantics, but they both suck at
> > grammar : parsing ml requires a full lex/yacc above and below gcc. Not
> > really
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:20:22PM -0400, vadi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Sorry I really did not want to start any flame. I just thought that
> getting answer from the mailing list would be faster than spending my
> time studying source code of the new system.
>
> > What you should do is relearn the pr
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 06:48:18PM +1200, Richard Toohey wrote:
> But I don't understand what he's doing differently to me. A new release is
> out, you want to upgrade from the previous release to the new one, and
> then you want to apply the errata patches.
Look, there are several flaws to the w
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 02:22:27PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:13:59AM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote:
> >
> > Would a patch for this be desirable? I have very limited hacking time,
> > but I could try to come up with something over the weekend/nex
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:24:16AM -0400, Chris Dukes wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:28:40AM +0300, Dexter Tomisson wrote:
> > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html
>
> IHBT...
>
> There are those that use OpenBSD for every bit of their computing
> experience. I do not ev
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:01:52PM -0700, LeviaComm Networks NOC wrote:
> On 6/15/2010 9:41 AM, Lars Nooden wrote:
> >Chris Smith wrote:
> >>Thanks for any input on these or other suggestions for quick (new Atom
> >>or better) low power network appliance type gear for keeping
> >>-current..
> >
> >
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:25:44AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:26:42 +0100 Tom Murphy
> wrote:
> >
> > This error does not occur in 4.7-release. Has there been something up
> > with the Perl packages in -current lately?
>
> Marc Espie (espie@
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:49:07PM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 01:36:17PM -0700, Matthew Dempsky wrote:
> > Is there any useful documentation that explains how you're supposed to
> > write C code and what's changed under the i18n New World Order? From
> > your message,
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote:
> I've looked all over www.openbsd.org.
> Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers?
> (not new to programming)
> Just the bug list?
> Fix something & send diffs?
If you're serious about this, just use OpenBSD intensively.
After a
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 05:42:48PM -0500, Samuel Baldwin wrote:
> 2009/11/21 AG :
> > Depends on whether one trusts the NSA or not.
>
> That's the nice thing about open source software; we don't have to,
> because we can verify their code or mathematics ourselves.
Anything can be backdoored. An a
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:04:16PM -0800, David Hoskin wrote:
> > Could you kindly point me to the documentation about OpenBSD make
> > utility and makefile.
>
> A pretty good tutorial can be found here:
>
> /usr/share/doc/psd/12.make/
Warning: a large part of this documentation is a bit mislead
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 06:08:30AM -0700, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:47:38 +0200 (EET)
> Lars Nooden wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
> > > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:51:03 -0800
> > > Ted Unangst wrote:
> > >> How many people are aware th
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 04:06:34PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> Toni Mueller wrote:
>
> > I have now discovered that I overlooked the setting of /usr/local/lib
> > in /etc/rc. But it seems to mean that I have to re-run ldconfig
> > every time I install a new shared library, or programs de
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 03:32:47PM -0500, Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
> Very minimalist:
>
> No xdm -- I login and type 'startx&;logout'.
Use
exec startx
instead
same effect. Cleaner.
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 07:09:03PM +0700, sonjaya wrote:
> hi all
> i have openbsd 4.3 as mx server , i try update packages i try
^^^
> following this from this link
> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade44.html
> before update to new one i try update packages
You have things backwa
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 05:50:57PM +, leona...@sympatico.ca wrote:
> I have been tracking openbsd current (i386) for a while. The latest upgrade
>
> OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #391: Fri Jan 15 14:55:45 MST 2010
>
> and iwn-firmware-5.2.tgz seem to no longer work. I have a 'no link' err
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 07:43:31AM +0100, Song Li wrote:
> What seems a little counter intuitive to me is: I would see sd0 as a
> shortcut of /dev/sd0 for fdisk, but "fdisk /dev/sd0" does not work.
It's not, as miod pointed out.
Is it something you tried to "deduce" on your own ? or some misinfor
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 06:42:45AM +0100, Song Li wrote:
> Thank you Bret. I can see that now after Aaron's comments and yours.
>
> cheers,
This is actually documented. You can tell by telling me where you looked,
and where I should put the info to be sure newbies see it.
>From packages(7), thir
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:31:31AM +0100, Song Li wrote:
> The man page for fdisk matches the actual OS. There is no typo.
>
> On the other hand, IMHO, a system should allow its user's reasonable
> assumption. It would be a headache for everyone if we have to memorize
> the exact syntax for every
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:59:14AM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> Marc Espie writes:
>
> > There is an iwn-firmware-5.3.
>
> where do you fetch that?
>
> the man page still refers to the 5.2 version, which also seems to be
> the most recent one at http
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:13:38PM -0500, Dan Harnett wrote:
> I also do not understand why strlcpy and strlcat are causing the author
> so much grief. This person didn't seem to know they existed before
> writing the article. I work in an ISP environment and it has caused
> zero issues to both m
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:57:05AM +0100, Landry Breuil wrote:
> >>
> >> Can't locate OpenBSD/OldLibs.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> >> /usr/libdata/perl5/i386-openbsd/5.10.1
> >> /usr/local/libdata/perl5/i386-openbsd/5.10.1 /usr/libdata/perl5
> >> /usr/local/libdata/perl5
> >> /usr/local/libdata/per
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:03:28PM +0100, Maxim Bourmistrov wrote:
> Yeah, stepping from 3.9 to 4.6 might be a big change, but
> I still want this "-F force"-flag in place. :)
Nope, won't happen like this.
Especially since you're not giving me complete information.
You should actually send prope
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:02:28AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Louis V. Lambrecht wrote:
> > /bin/sh is *NOT* /usr/local/bin/bash
>
> Very true, but I'm not sure how that is at all relevant.
>
> >> bash-4.0$ make
> >> /bin/sh: no closing quote
> >> *** Error code
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 02:50:46PM -0600, Donald Cooley wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Marc Espie wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:02:28AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
> >> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Louis V. Lambrecht
> >> wrote:
> >> &g
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:59:42PM -0400, Stephen Takacs wrote:
> That might be a solution if you're stricly using package/ports. But
> consider what happens when you manually build and install other programs
> that came in the form of plain old source code tarballs (make && make
> install, etc.)
> jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
>
> If xbase45 and xshare45 are part of X windows, then I haven't installed them
> because I didn't plan to use the x-windows on this test machine.
A lot of ports and packages are dependant on x windows stuff be
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:02:07PM -0400, Luis Useche wrote:
> Do I have to do something else here? It seems like this discussion
> cooled down a bit. Is the patch in review? Is the patch been
> considered for inclusion? Are there any changes I can do to make more
> suitable for inclusion? I don't
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 04:40:37PM -0400, Chris wrote:
>>> I'm using obsd4.5, following current. I installed php5 using ports.
>>> I realized that I forgot to include something in the compile options.
>>> I went back to add it, and now it won't reinstall.
>>>
>>> I added "--enable-mbstring" to the
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:50:58PM -0700, Barry Friedman wrote:
> Hi, thanks everyone for the information, this helps give me an idea of
> the scope and effort involved in getting OpenBGPd onto Linux. I'll
> look at the OpenSSH project to see how the portability is added
> without cluttering up the
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 04:12:40PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Marc Espie wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:50:58PM -0700, Barry Friedman wrote:
> > > Hi, thanks everyone for the information, this helps give me an idea of
>
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 02:15:30PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote:
> as an old time screen user i was perplexed to see that when i
> attached to an already attached tmux session, both clients were
> updated real time and accepted input as well. the ascii art with
> the differing terminal window size
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 12:21:12AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote:
> thanks everyone on/off-list for pointing out
> that screen can do this as well.
>
> it was not the point of my mail though.
> it was not a pissing contest what screen and tmux
> can/can't do.
How about you go off this list for a w
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 12:09:05PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> No really, what is the right way to recursively list the
> dependencies of a given package? pkg_info doesn't seem to
> do that natively (and the above attempt only works for
> installed packages indeed). Is that a design decision,
> say b
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:41:35AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> 2009/11/12 Bob Beck :
>
> > Kind of, but I don't really think it's got a future. It's kind of like
> > advocating necrophila with a fresh corpse.. or maybe just doing it
> > with a really hot coma patient. It might be really good for a s
Nice event.
Hotel probably ways too expensive, but since I paid for it with my time and
my talks, I didn't care all that much.
Surprisingly, just one NetBSD talk (Alistair Crooks). Where did they hide ?
Do they still think it's a FreeBSD conference masquerading as an open
forum ?
Lots of stuff
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 05:42:24PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:39:35 +0100
> Tomas Bodzar wrote:
>
> > > Sorry, I should have specified that I have FETCH_PACKAGES=Yes in
> > > /etc/mk.conf.
>
> I found when using fetch_packages I had to use make install rather than
>
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 09:57:22AM +0800, Edwin Eyan Moragas wrote:
> Hi Misc,
>
> i'm looking for experience of using SQLite on OpenBSD.
>
> if anybody in the list can share
>
> 1) how SQLite is being used
> 2) size of the database
> 3) performance metrics (if you have them)
>
> anything about
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 06:26:36PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote:
> hmm, on Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 05:38:19PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot said that
> > On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:25:40 +0100, frantisek holop
> > wrote:
> > >why not reuse the /etc/rc.conf style "set these to "NO" to turn
> > >them off.
> > >o
Sorry about the lack of feedback.
Basically, there are quite a few severe limitations to the way pkg_delete
currently walks dependencies.
Putting a band-aid such as your patch is not going to help, and yeah,
redesigning that to work better is on my list.
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 07:04:14PM -0600, Markus Peloquin wrote:
> I've been having problems building ports in -current with the new
> WANTLIB formats. I just noticed a commit from late November saying
> I need -current {dpb, sqlports, pkg_add}, and I had updated the base
> system to -current:
> h
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 02:54:58PM -0500, Michael W. Lucas wrote:
> Summary: Is this error worth a bug report?
Not any more.
> Can't call method "errsay" on unblessed reference at
> /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/Add.pm line 693.
Fixed, thanks.
> My packages are now in an inconsistent state, as p
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 09:03:11PM +, Timothy Legge wrote:
> Ok. Im happy with the progress Im making with OpenBSD! Ive been using for a
> little over a week now and Im impressed with what it can do so far.
>
> I now have this question
>
> I have installed Joomla! 1.6 which is working all
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 01:51:15PM -0800, Sean Kamath wrote:
> %!
> newpath clippath stroke showpage
>
> These four commands were the smallest PostScript I could figure out to send to
> a printer to print something without burning up tons of toner. It should
> produce a small line all the way aro
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