Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared memory

2001-01-06 Thread Sam Horrocks
Let me just try to explain my reasoning. I'll define a couple of my base assumptions, in case you disagree with them. - Slices of CPU time doled out by the kernel are very small - so small that processes can be considered concurrent, even though technically they are handled

Re: perl calendar application

2001-01-06 Thread Blue Lang
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Jim Serio wrote: Why not just write one to suite your needs? If you want one I'd really like to hack on a freeware version, but it'd be nice to start with one that at least had some decent sheduling features so I could use

newbie needs help

2001-01-06 Thread dave frost,,,
Hi everyone. I have just built apache mod perl, things seem to be fine since /server-status reports Apache Server Status for home.itchy.and.scratchy Server Version: Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_perl/1.24_01 Server Built: Jan 5 2001 17:49:02 I have also edited my httpd.conf file to include the

Re: newbie needs help

2001-01-06 Thread Gerd Kortemeyer
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Re: where can I get MIME/Head.pm modules

2001-01-06 Thread Gerd Kortemeyer
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Re: Linux Hello World 2000, Results In!!

2001-01-06 Thread Perrin Harkins
Joshua Chamas wrote: The Hello World 2000 benchmark is complete, and my results are below Kind of harsh results for Template Toolkit, but it makes sense given the nature of the test. Variable interpolation in TT provides extra functionality to give transparent access to method calls, coderefs,

Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared memory

2001-01-06 Thread Perrin Harkins
Sam Horrocks wrote: Don't agree. You're equating the model with the implemntation. Unix processes model concurrency, but when it comes down to it, if you don't have more CPU's than processes, you can only simulate concurrency. [...] This url:

Re: Configtest yields bad news...

2001-01-06 Thread andrewl
/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl configtest produces "Cannot load /usr/local/apache/modules/libperl.so into server: undefined symbol: ap_ctx_get" I'm done some searches for clues at RedHat and other sites, but all I see is something about and IBM issue. Any clues? Andrew L.

Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared memory

2001-01-06 Thread Buddy Lee Haystack
Does this mean that mod_perl's memory hunger will curbed in the future using some of the neat tricks in Speedycgi? Perrin Harkins wrote: Sam Horrocks wrote: Don't agree. You're equating the model with the implemntation. Unix processes model concurrency, but when it comes down to it,

Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared memory

2001-01-06 Thread Perrin Harkins
Buddy Lee Haystack wrote: Does this mean that mod_perl's memory hunger will curbed in the future using some of the neat tricks in Speedycgi? Yes. The upcoming mod_perl 2 (running on Apache 2) will use MRU to select threads. Doug demoed this at ApacheCon a few months back. - Perrin

Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared memory

2001-01-06 Thread Les Mikesell
- Original Message - From: "Sam Horrocks" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "mod_perl list" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared

Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared memory

2001-01-06 Thread Joshua Chamas
Sam Horrocks wrote: Don't agree. You're equating the model with the implemntation. Unix processes model concurrency, but when it comes down to it, if you don't have more CPU's than processes, you can only simulate concurrency. Hey Sam, nice module. I just installed your SpeedyCGI for

ap_ctx_get with libperl.so problem.

2001-01-06 Thread andrewl
This is definitely related to libperl.so ... When I comment out LoadModule perl_module modules/libperl.so in httpd.conf, then apache will start. Unfortunately, I'd like to get mod_perl working. Does anyone know about this ap_ctx_get? I understand that there could be a bug in another module

Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared memory

2001-01-06 Thread Sam Horrocks
Right, but this also points out how difficult it is to get mod_perl tuning just right. My opinion is that the MRU design adapts more dynamically to the load. How would this compare to apache's process management when using the front/back end approach? Same thing applies.

Re: perl calendar application

2001-01-06 Thread James G Smith
Blue Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Jim Serio wrote: Why not just write one to suite your needs? If you want one I'd really like to hack on a freeware version, but it'd be nice to start with one that at least had some decent

Re: ap_ctx_get with libperl.so problem.

2001-01-06 Thread Andrew Ho
Hello, ALThis is definitely related to libperl.so ... When I comment out ALLoadModule perl_module modules/libperl.so ALin httpd.conf, then apache will start. Unfortunately, I'd like to get ALmod_perl working. AL ALDoes anyone know about this ap_ctx_get? I understand that there could ALbe a

Re: Configtest yields bad news...

2001-01-06 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, andrewl wrote: "Cannot load /usr/local/apache/modules/libperl.so into server: undefined symbol: ap_ctx_get" Any clues? Have you read .../mod_perl/SUPPORT ? 73, Ged.

mod_perl / SSI conflict?

2001-01-06 Thread Tom Kralidis
Hi, I am running Apache 1.3.14 w/ mod_perl 1.24 on a Linux RedHat 6.2 machine. I have recently began to implement mod_perl to some of my content. As per "Writing Apache Modules with Perl and C" book, I wrote a footer for each page, with the following directive in httpd.conf: Files ~

Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared memory

2001-01-06 Thread Sam Horrocks
A few things: - In your results, could you add the speedycgi version number (2.02), and the fact that this is using the mod_speedycgi frontend. The fork/exec frontend will be much slower on hello-world so I don't want people to get the wrong idea. You may want to benchmark

Re: perl calendar application

2001-01-06 Thread modperl
I'll say just a little now since i'm moving semi slowly on this project. I'm working on writing a suite that at some point will have a calender program in it. The whole thing is perl based and the entire web enterface is going to be done in mod perl. Whole setup will be databased backed and

Re: mod_perl / SSI conflict?

2001-01-06 Thread Andrew Ho
Tom, TKThis puts the footer nicely to all files .htm or .html TKHowever, I have a few .shtml pages as part of my site, which have worked TKwith no errors. After making this change: TK TK Files ~ "\.s?html?$" TKSetHandler perl-script TKPerlHandler Apache::Footer TK /Files TK TK..I

re newbie needs help

2001-01-06 Thread dave frost,,,
Hi guys, Sorry for the brain fart email, i now have it all working peachy now. Thanks for the help though. dave

RE: Strange log entry, Apache child messed up afterwards

2001-01-06 Thread Paul G. Weiss
I see it also. However, I only see it after I get an entry of 200 - in the access log, i.e. the page returned status code 200, but the content-length is not recorded. I'm still in the process of investigating. BTW the above log entry occurs 90% of the time with a script that does a

Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared memory

2001-01-06 Thread Les Mikesell
- Original Message - From: "Sam Horrocks" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "mod_perl list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 4:37 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [speedycgi] Speedycgi scales better than mod_perl withscripts that contain un-shared

Single proc -multi proc

2001-01-06 Thread modperl
I've got 4 new machines coming in around the 22nd. I'll have physical access to them for two weeks before we colo them. Probably the easiest way to determine mod_perl's scalability by going to multiproc on linux would be for me to test them. They are dual proc machines, but I can pull a proc