Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks - 11/19/2001

2001-11-19 Thread Joshua Chamas
Perrin Harkins wrote: > > on 11/19/01 8:05 PM, Joshua Chamas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It has been a while, but here's a new set of Hello World benchmarks! > > There was a recent announcement of HTML::Template::JIT, and Template Toolkit > has an XS option now. Any chance you could put tho

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks - 11/19/2001

2001-11-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
on 11/19/01 8:05 PM, Joshua Chamas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It has been a while, but here's a new set of Hello World benchmarks! There was a recent announcement of HTML::Template::JIT, and Template Toolkit has an XS option now. Any chance you could put those into the next round? - Perrin

Linux Hello World Benchmarks - 11/19/2001

2001-11-19 Thread Joshua Chamas
Hey, [[ NUMBERS ARE BELOW ]] It has been a while, but here's a new set of Hello World benchmarks! What took me so long in getting these out is that the java web environments that I had set up would keep crashing during the tests in ways that would not only render their benchmarks meaningless, but

Re: [bordering on OT] Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2001-01-04 Thread Roger Espel Llima
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 09:55:39AM -0500, Blue Lang wrote: > Eh, ab isn't really made as anything other than the most coarsely-grained > of benchmarks. Concurrency testing is useless because it will measure the > ratio of requests/second/processor, not the scalability of requests from > single to

[bordering on OT] Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2001-01-04 Thread Blue Lang
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Roger Espel Llima wrote: > JR Mayberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Linux does serious injustice to mod_perl. Anyone who uses Linux knows > > how horrible it is on SMP, I think some tests showed it uses as litle as > > 25% of the second processor.. > > A simple benchmark wit

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2001-01-04 Thread Roger Espel Llima
JR Mayberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Modperl handler benchmark, which was done on a dual P3 500mhz on > Linux does serious injustice to mod_perl. Anyone who uses Linux knows > how horrible it is on SMP, I think some tests showed it uses as litle as > 25% of the second processor.. It's an

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-18 Thread Joshua Chamas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:37:16AM -0800, Joshua Chamas wrote: > > > > Please feel free to run the tests yourself, and if you give > > me the results, I'll be sure to post them at a later date > > at http://www.chamas.com/bench/ . You can grab the benchmarks > > from

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-18 Thread newsreader
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:37:16AM -0800, Joshua Chamas wrote: > > Please feel free to run the tests yourself, and if you give > me the results, I'll be sure to post them at a later date > at http://www.chamas.com/bench/ . You can grab the benchmarks > from http://www.chamas.com/bench/hello.tar

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-18 Thread Joshua Chamas
JR Mayberry wrote: > > I strongly dislike the benchmarks on the below URL, its very > misleading.. > > The Modperl handler benchmark, which was done on a dual P3 500mhz on > Linux does serious injustice to mod_perl. Anyone who uses Linux knows > how horrible it is on SMP, I think some tests show

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-18 Thread JR Mayberry
I strongly dislike the benchmarks on the below URL, its very misleading.. The Modperl handler benchmark, which was done on a dual P3 500mhz on Linux does serious injustice to mod_perl. Anyone who uses Linux knows how horrible it is on SMP, I think some tests showed it uses as litle as 25% of the

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-17 Thread Perrin Harkins
Gunther Birznieks wrote: > But it's a shame that the only way to > get faster than PHP is to write a raw Mod_perl handler according to the > benchmarks. All the other mod_perl tools seem slower. It makes sense though. All the other tools do more setup work on each request: parsing input, manipul

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-17 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi all, On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Gerald Richter wrote: > there are so many factors, so they are very difficult to compare. True. But nevertheless I think it's a very useful bit of work because the thing that stands out is that all (server) dynamic content comes at a high cost in processor cycles.

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-17 Thread Gerald Richter
> For the raw benchmarks... > > OK, I finally got a little time to download and read some the hello.tar.gz. > > It's good to see TT is fairly fast. But it's a shame that the only way to > get faster than PHP is to write a raw Mod_perl handler according to the > benchmarks. All the other mod_perl

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-17 Thread Joshua Chamas
Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > For the raw benchmarks... > > OK, I finally got a little time to download and read some the hello.tar.gz. > > It's good to see TT is fairly fast. But it's a shame that the only way to > get faster than PHP is to write a raw Mod_perl handler according to the > benchm

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
For the raw benchmarks... OK, I finally got a little time to download and read some the hello.tar.gz. It's good to see TT is fairly fast. But it's a shame that the only way to get faster than PHP is to write a raw Mod_perl handler according to the benchmarks. All the other mod_perl tools seem

Linux Hello World Benchmarks: +PHP,JSP,ePerl

2000-12-16 Thread Joshua Chamas
Hey, Still very rough, the hello world benchmark suite is available for download at: http://www.chamas.com/bench/hello.tar.gz You may run it like: # to get started, see what tests will run, note you # may need some CPAN modules installed to get this far perl ./bench.pl -test # to run t

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
Joshua Chamas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > > IME, simple mod_perl handlers typically run around 50% as fast as > > HTML static pages. Your hello world benchmark seems to be slightly > > misleading in this respect, since the content-length is small > > relative to the

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Joshua Chamas
Joe Schaefer wrote: > > IME, simple mod_perl handlers typically run around 50% as fast as > HTML static pages. Your hello world benchmark seems to be slightly > misleading in this respect, since the content-length is small > relative to the header size. > I'll send you my benchmark suite separ

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
Joshua Chamas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > RESULTS: > > [hello]# ./bench.pl -time=60 > ... > Test Name Test FileHits/sec Total Hits Total Time Total >Bytes > > > HTML Stati

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Joshua Chamas
"Alexander Farber (EED)" wrote: > > Hi Joshua, > > you sort the table at http://www.chamas.com/bench/ by Hits/s, > but the ModPerl Handler was tested on PIII-500 x 2 and the Java > thingies below - only PII-266. > > Is it an intended joke or do I misunderstand something? > The first page is m

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Alexander Farber (EED)
Hi Joshua, Joshua Chamas wrote: > Note, this is the first benchmark that I've run of Apache::ASP on > Linux, which is nice to see because Linux is one of the faster OS's, > and it now looks bit more of a player, compared to what's listed at > http://www.chamas.com/bench/ when I benched it on Sola

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Joshua Chamas
Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > Then it seems odd that there is such a huge discrepency between CGI.pm and > no CGI.pm. If you preload CGI.pm in startup.pl does the difference go away? > I did preload CGI.pm. I'll send you the hello world suite separately since you seem curious. Note that at 500

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Then it seems odd that there is such a huge discrepency between CGI.pm and no CGI.pm. If you preload CGI.pm in startup.pl does the difference go away? At 02:56 AM 12/11/2000 -0800, Joshua Chamas wrote: >Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > > > Is CGI Raw decoding the get/post yourself? Or using the Apac

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Joshua Chamas wrote: > Lastly, I was unable to get AxKit to run without segfaulting ... http://axkit.org/faq.xml Either you're running PHP on that server, or you have an Apache with expat included. Do "nm /path/to/apache/bin/httpd | grep -i XML" to find out if the latter is

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Joshua Chamas
Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > Is CGI Raw decoding the get/post yourself? Or using the Apache::args, > Apache::Request::param mechanism? > In the hello world scripts, there is no get/post processing as part of the benchmark. Here's the code that's run: http://www.chamas.com/bench/#perlrawcgi

Re: Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Is CGI Raw decoding the get/post yourself? Or using the Apache::args, Apache::Request::param mechanism? At 02:13 AM 12/11/2000 -0800, Joshua Chamas wrote: >Hey, > >I have automated a portable Hello World test suite, but its not >CPAN ready, so if any would like to contribute, run, and comment >

Linux Hello World Benchmarks...

2000-12-11 Thread Joshua Chamas
Hey, I have automated a portable Hello World test suite, but its not CPAN ready, so if any would like to contribute, run, and comment on the sources, give me a holler & I'll send them to you. What it does is fire up a lean apache on a high port with only the config necessary to run the benchmar