file upload object - getting form field name

2003-05-30 Thread md
I need to get the form field name from a form upload. 

I've been using the upload object and looping through
my uploads:

foreach my $upload ($r-upload) {
# do stuff
}

The first form has 10 fields (labeled
upload1-upload10). For a quick hack I simply used a
counter and all was good:

my $upload_id = 0;
foreach my $upload ($r-upload) {
$upload_id++;
# do stuff
}

However, the next page will display the results of the
upload...all the good images uploaded, and a bad image
icon for the ones that didn't meet the upload criteria
(size, type, etc). The images maintain their original
order.

At this point the user is allowed to reupload new
images to replace the bad images (the is an upload
button on for each bad image, not for good images).

Now my counter fails, as if the user tries to replace
upload3 (and that's the only one that is bad), my
counter thinks it's upload1 and replaces the wrong
image.

Is there a way to get the field name...I didn't see
this in the cookbook or the archives...

Thanks. 

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Re: Table/row locking with Apache::Session::Mysql /Apache::Session::Flex

2003-02-26 Thread md

--- Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 If you look at the actual contents of
 Apache::Session::MySQL, you'll see 
 that it's essentially just a config file.  There's
 no need to be 
 concerned about using Flex, but you could easilly
 code up your own 
 Apache::Session::MySQLNoLocks by changing a line in
 the current module.

Is it possible to have row-level locking (as opposed
to table-level or null locker) with MySQL 4.x and
Apache::Session?

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Re: Table/row locking with Apache::Session::Mysql /Apache::Session::Flex

2003-02-26 Thread md

--- md [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is it possible to have row-level locking (as opposed
 to table-level or null locker) with MySQL 4.x and
 Apache::Session?

Looks like I get that with InnoDB automatically...

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Table/row locking with Apache::Session::Mysql /Apache::Session::Flex

2003-02-25 Thread md
We're using Apache::Session::MySQL (Apache::Session
1.54) and occassionaly see long lock times. 

Also, we'll soon be adding a substantial number of
users to our system and I wonder if it would be wise
to move away from the table locking that is currently
being used with Apache::Session::MySQL.

I'm looking at Apache::Session::Flex and setting
Lock='Null'...however, I get the impression from an
old email (see below) that Flex is for debugging only.


First, any benchmarks on what kind of load I can
realistically use with Apache::Session::MySQL? Is
moving to Apache::Session::Flex a good choice (and
then we could also change the session table to
INNODB), or should I create my own
Apache::Session::MySQL-type module by changing Lock =
'Null'?

I didn't see much discussion on this in the archives,
so if it is there, please point me to the thread...

Thanks...
--
 On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:

Regarding Flex, nobody uses it.  It is for debugging.
 If you have a
particular variant of Flex that you use all the time
(very likely), you
can code up a 6-line module to make a real
implementation like all the
other session modules.

Flex is for debugging, period.



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Re: Table/row locking with Apache::Session::Mysql /Apache::Session::Flex

2003-02-25 Thread md

--- Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It would be.  Frankly, there is no value to the kind
 of mutual exclusion 
 that the Apache::Session locking provides in a
 typical web application. 
   If you use the null locker you will still get
 atomic updates, but you 
 will have the possibility of someone opening up two
 browser windows, 
 hitting submit in both, and having the last save
 overwrite the values 
 from the first one, possibly losing some changes. 
 In most web apps, 
 that is not a big problem.

We talked about this, but in our case, I don't believe
this will be an issue.

 Note that this could become a problem if you use
 sessions incorrectly by 
 putting tons of data in them.  Most of your data
 should have its own 
 normalized tables and persistence code.  Sessions
 are for storing tiny 
 little bits of data like the user's ID or some form
 data that from a 
 multi-page form that hasn't been committed yet.

We put almost nothing in the session other than the
user id. There are three apps sharing the same session
table, and I believe one app may put two or three
other things other than the user id (like current page
id and affiliate id...both which I should be able to
remove someday:)...but never-the-less, very little
data in the session. I've gotten most of my sessioning
information from this list (and you), so I believe we
are session correctly :)
 
 If you look at the actual contents of
 Apache::Session::MySQL, you'll see 
 that it's essentially just a config file.  There's
 no need to be 
 concerned about using Flex, but you could easilly
 code up your own 
 Apache::Session::MySQLNoLocks by changing a line in
 the current module.

That's what I figured and that's what I'm going to do.

Thanks again,
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Re: Apache::Session and user sessions

2002-12-07 Thread md

--- Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Todd W wrote:
   I have a table with some basic user information
 (first name, last name, 
  address,
  phone number, etc...).
 
 That's permanent data, not session data.  Session
 data is transient.

I was reading through the archives and came across
this. Everyone was so helpful the last time I had a
Apache::Session question (thread what goes in a
session?) so I'm back with another question. 

The last project I worked on really had no transient
data, so the only thing I put in the session was the
user id (well, there was one transisent item...current
page, so that got put in the session as well). 

The project I'm currently working on (mod_perl, TT,
Apache::Session) is a registration system. Since this
is closer to a shopping cart, I would consider the
data transisent. 

My question is with regards to whether I need or
should put the submitted data into the session as the
user navigates the forms (to create an account). The
user will be taken through three forms to create an
account. So for instance, form one will ask the user
to create a username, password, and provide an email
address. Before moving on to form two (billing info),
should I put this data in the session, or just go
ahead and dump it in the database (after making any
nec. checks), since I won't need the info until they
actually login? Or should I collect all the info from
all three screens by putting it in the session as the
user traverses the forms and then put it all in the
database at once? I'm currently using the first
option. BTW, it is possible for a user to create a
free account by hitting form one only, so no harm
would come if something happened after form one.

Another question, while not mod_perl related (sorry:),
is how to taint check input data like usernames,
address fields and email addresses. All info is just
put in the database, no unsafe system calls are run.
I'm curious as to what characters to limit for
usernames in particular.

Thanks...

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Re: Apache::Session - What goes in session?

2002-08-20 Thread md


--- Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There are a few ways to deal with this.  The
 simplest is to use the 
 sticky load-balancing feature that many
 load-balancers have.  Failing 
 that, you can store to a network file system like
 NFS or CIFS, or use a 
 database.  (There are also fancier options with
 things like Spread, but 
 that's getting a little ahead of the game.)  You can
 use MySQL for 
 caching, and it will probably have similar
 performance to a networked 
 file system.  Unfortunately, the Apache::Session
 code isn't all that 
 easy to use for this, since it assumes you want to
 generate IDs for the 
 objects you store rather than passing them in.  You
 could adapt the code 
 from it to suit your needs though.  The important
 thing is to leave out 
 all of the mutually exclusive locking it implements,
 since a cache is 
 all about get the latest as quick as you can and
 lost updates are not 
 a problem (last save wins is good enough for a
 cache).

I haven't looked at the cache modules docs yet...would
it be possible to build cache on the separate
load-balanced machines as we go along...as we do with
template caching? By that I mean if an item has cached
on machine one then further requests on machine one
will come from cache where if on machine two the same
item hasn't cached, it will be pulled from the db the
first time and then cached?

If this isn't possible, I'm not sure if I'll be able
to implement any caching or not (some of the site
configuration is out of my hands) and everything seems
so user specific...I'll definitely reread your posts
and go through my app for things that should be
cached.

I would be curious though that if my choice is simply
that the data is stored in the session or comes from
the database with each request, would it still be best
to essentially only store the session id in the
session and pull everything else from the db? It still
seems that something trivial like a greeting name (a
preference) could go in the session.

 The relationships to the features and pages differ
 by user, but there 
 might be general information about the features
 themselves that is 
 stored in the database and is not user-specific. 
 That could be cached 
 separately, to save some trips to the db for each
 user.

The only thing I can think of right now is a
calendar...that should probably be cached. The only
gotcha would be that the calendar would need to update
every day, at least on the current month's pages. But
this is only on a feature page, not a users created
page (that is a user can click a link on their daily
page that takes them to a feature page where they can
go through archives).
 

 You can cache the names too if you want to, but
 keeping them out of the 
 session means that you won't be slowed down by
 fetching that extra data 
 and de-serializing it with Storable unless the page
 you're on actually 
 needs it.  

Even though there are some preset pages, the user
can change the names and the user can also create a
cutom page with its own name. So there could be
thousands of unique page names, many (most) specific
to unique users (like Jim's Sports Page, etc.). Not
to mention that between the fact that the users' daily
pages can have any number of user selected features
per page and features themselves can have archive
depths of anywhere from 3 to 20 years, there's a lot
of info.

 It's also good to separate things that
 have to be reliable 
 (like the ID of the current user, since without that
 you have to send 
 them back to log in again) from things that don't
 need to be (you could 
 always fetch the list of pages from the db if your
 cache went down).

Very good advice. I've found that occasionally
something happens to my session where the sesssion id
is ok but some of the other data disapears (like
current page id) which really screws things up until
you log out and log back in again. This leads me to
suspect that I've answered my own question from above.
It's just whether I can cache or not.

Thanks for all your time and help.



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Re: Apache::Session - What goes in session?

2002-08-20 Thread md


Thanks...you've given me plenty to work with. Great
explination. This is good pragmatic stuff to know!


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Apache::Session - What goes in session?

2002-08-19 Thread md

I'm using mod_perl and Apache::Session on an app that
is similar to MyYahoo. I found a few bits of info from
a previous thread, but I'm curious as to what type of
information should go in the session and what should
come from the database.

Currently I'm putting very little in the session, but
what I am putting in the session is more global in
nature...greeting, current page number, current page
name...data that doesn't change very often. I'm
pulling a lot of info from the database and I wonder
if my design is sound. Most of the info being pulled
from the database is features for the page. 

Now I need to add global modules to the page which
will show user info like which pages they have created
and which features are being emailed to the user.
These modules will display on every page unless the
user turns them off. It seems that since this info
wouldn't change very often that I should put the data
in the session...

Anyone have any general tips on session design?

Thanks.

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Re: Apache::Session - What goes in session?

2002-08-19 Thread md


--- Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 md wrote:

 That doesn't sound very global to me.  What happens
 when users open 
 multiple browser windows on your site?  Doesn't it
 screw up the current 
 page data?

I don't think global was the term I should have
used. What I mean is data that will be seen on all or
most pages by the same user...like Hello Jim, where
Jim is pulled from the database when the session is
created and passed around in the session after that
(and updated in the db and session if user changes
their greeting name). 

Current page name and id are never stored in db, so
different browser windows can be on different
pages...I'm not sure if that's good or bad. However,
changes to the user name will be seen in both browser
windows since that's updated both in the session and
db.
 

 Optimizing database fetches or caching data is
 independent of the 
 session issue.  Nothing that is relevant to more
 than one user should 
 ever go in the session.

Correct. That little info I am putting in the session
corresponds directly to a single user.
 

 That sounds like a user or subscriptions object
 to me, not session data.

Once again, I shouldn't have used the term global.
This is the subscriptions info for a single
user...that's why I had thought to put this in the
session instead of pulling from the db each page call
since the data will rarely change. This info will be
displayed on every page the user visits (unless they
turn off this module).

 
 No, that's caching.  Don't use the session for
 caching, use a cache for 
 it.  They're not the same.  A session is often
 stored in a database so 
 that it can be reliable.  A cache is usually stored
 on the file system 
 so it can be fast.

The session is stored in a database
(Apache::Session::MySQL), and I am using TT caching
for the templates, but I'm not sure how to cache the
non-session data. I've seen this discussed but I
definitely need more info on this. As it stands I see
two options: get data from the session or get it from
the db...how do I bring  caching into play?
 
 Things like the login status of this session, and
 the user ID that is 
 associated with it go in the session.  Status of a
 particular page has 
 to be passed in query args or hidden fields, to
 avoid problems with 
 multiple browser windows.  Data that applies to
 multiple users or lasts 
 more than the current browsing session never goes in
 the session.

What about something like default page id, which is
the page that is considered your home page? This id is
stored permanently in the db (lasts more than the
current current browsing session) but I keep it in
the session since this also rarely changes so I don't
want 
to keep hitting the db to get it.

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Re: Apache::Session - What goes in session?

2002-08-19 Thread md


--- Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Current page name and id are never stored in db, so
 different browser windows can be on different
 pages...
 
 
 I thought your session was all stored in MySQL.  Why
 are you putting 
 these in the session exactly?  If these things are
 not relevant to more 
 than one request (page), they don't belong in the
 session.  They should 
 just be in ordinary variables.

You are correct, these items are in the session in the
db. I meant that they weren't kept in long term
storage in the db after the session ended like the
default page id and user name are. The current page
id/name is only relevent for an active session. Once a
session is started current page is set to whatever the
default page id is and will change as the user changes
pages. The only reason I did this (as I recall) is
that way I can get the page name once. 
 
 You should use a cache for that, rather than the
 session.  This is 
 long-term data that you just want quicker access to.

Yes, that's exactly what I want to do. My main concern
is long-term data that I want quicker access to. I can
definitely get it all from the db, but that doesn't
seem very efficient.
 
 Template Toolkit caches the compiled template code,
 but it doesn't cache 
 your data or the output of the templates.  What you
 should do is grab a 
 module like Cache::Cache or Cache::Mmap and take a
 look at the examples 
 there.  You use it in a way that's very similar to
 what you're doing 
 with Apache::Session for the things you referred to
 as global.  There 
 are also good examples in the documentation for the
 Memoize module.

Great...exactly the kind of info I was looking for.
I'll look at those. We are using a load-balanced
system; I shoudl have mentioned that earlier. Won't
that be an issue with caching to disk? Is it possible
to cache to the db?

 There are various reasons to use a cache rather than
 treating the 
 session like a cache.  If you put a lot of data in
 the session, it will 
 slow down every hit loading and saving that data. 
 In a cache, you can 
 just keep multiple cached items separately and only
 grab them if you 
 need them for this page.  With a cache you can store
 things that come 
 from the database but are not user-specific, like
 today's weather.

Thank you for all the excellent advice and
explination(in this and other posts).

Most of the info I'll be pulling is *very*
user-specific...user name, which features to display
on which page, what features the user gets by email,
etc.

What happens is the user logs in and then the username
(greeting), the default page id (the user can create
many pages with different features per page) and what
features go on the default page are pulled from the
database and the default page is displayed, as well as
any module info.

The modules will consist of a pages module with
the names of all the pages the user has created (with
links) and a emails module which will display all
the features that the user is getting via email. 
These modules will be displayed on every page. 

You can see that almost everything is user-specific.

Right now I'm storing the page names/ids in a hash ref
in the session (the emails module isn't live yet), but
I thought that I would change that and only store the
module id and pull the names from the db (if the user
hasn't turned off the module) with each page call.

Thanks again for all the info!

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Re: when to mod_perl?

2002-06-24 Thread md


--- Cees Hek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would build your application using plain old CGI,
 following the guidlines that
 mod_perl provides for running CGI applications under
 the Apache::Registry
 module.  If you properly analyse your application,
 and build small tight CGI
 scripts, then when the load goes up, you can pick
 and choose the heaviest hit
 scripts and run them under Apache::Registry for the
 performance boost.

Thanks...that sounds reasonable. I doubt that all the
dynamic pieces of this site would really require
mod_perl. To answer another's reply, this will run on
either Linux or BSD.
 
 Also, if the load goes really high, you can ask for
 more hardware, and run the
 entire site under Apache::Registry without any code
 changes.

Upgrading hardware once the load gets high was
discussed...This would make the migration easier, as I
have told the client that we may start with CGI then
move to mod_perl later. I've never used
Apache::Registry before, but this sounds like a good
solution.
 
 I would recommend taking a look at CGI::Application.
  It provides a very clean
 framework for building CGI programs, and by using
 it, you will avoid most if not
 all of the pitfalls that most CGI programs have that
 require them to be recoded,
 or cleaned up for use with Apache::Registry.

I normally use CGI::Application, but in this case I'll
also need something like CGI::Session as well, not to
mention either Template-Toolkit or HTML::Template. 

Are there any gotchas with CGI::Session and
Apache::Registry? And yes, I'll read The Guide :)

 Good luck...

Thanks for the help!



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Re: when to mod_perl?

2002-06-24 Thread md


--- Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In any case we are talking about registry scripts,
 aren't we? In that 
 case it takes very little time to turn it on and off
 and test what is 
 better. Unless you are talking about writing full
 fledged mod_perl API 
 handlers, which is only when your should
 plan/analyze before you code.

Actually at first I was planning to do full fledged
mod_perl handlers, so that's why I wanted to plan
before I coded. 

I was just a bit worried about the amount of static
content. In the past I've had a lot more hardware to
work with and I never had to worry about it much.

I think you all have answered my question well enough
that I feel confortable sticking with straight
mod_perl.

Thanks...

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Re: Mapping to location /

2002-06-13 Thread md


--- Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 23:06 12.06.2002, md wrote:

 I'm not quite sure about this, been wondering about
 it, but in theory you 
 should be able to use
 DirectoryIndex index.phtml
 and like that you won't have to worry about / etc
 anymore.
 Try it out..

And so I did...it won't work since mod_dir (as far as
I can tell) looks for a physical file, and my
index.phtml is virtual.

What I'm really trying to do is more like the PHP I'm
replacing. I should be able to go to:

www.someserver.com/index.phtml for a dynamic page 
and
www.someserver.com/index.html for a static page.

I'm guessing that my best solution would be to use
HTML::Mason or Apache::ASP instead of
Template-Toolkit. However, I can' really do that...it
took me a while to get the designers to use TT, and I
doubt I can get them to change again. 

I may try using the PerlTransHandler to change the uri
to a location...say with
www.someserver.com/index.phtml the uri gets changed to
/modperl (or www.someserver.com/somedir/index.phtml
the uri becomes /modperl/somedir) which is used in a
Location /modperl directive.

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Re: Mapping to location /

2002-06-13 Thread md


--- Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 16:04 13.06.2002, md wrote:
 
 What I'm really trying to do is more like the PHP
 I'm
 replacing. I should be able to go to:
 
 www.someserver.com/index.phtml for a dynamic page
 and
 www.someserver.com/index.html for a static page.
 
 Does PHP do that?

Yes...since both index.html and index.php are physical
files.

 
 Using HTML::Mason or Apache::ASP won't solve
 anything special. It's still 
 the same basic thing.

Except that there will by a physical file with
embedded code like PHP, so I think Mason and
Apache::ASP would be closer to what I want. However, I
don't have that option.

I'd really like to use a Location, but the request is
to keep existing directory structures (over 200
top-level directories) and the main index page needs
to be dynamic as well.
 
 Let's assess your situation a litte: why can't you
 just put your TT 
 templates into your document root, and do like with
 your PHP pages? That 
 would solve the current problem you seem to be
 facing. 

Because the templates need to be processed by a
mod_perl script and I need to map that somehow.

 Furthermore, have 
 you looked into the Apache::Template module? I think
 it's pretty close to 
 what you want.

I haven't looked at it, but I believe it's just a
wrapper to Template-Toolkit.

Thanks for the suggestions :)




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Re: Mapping to location /

2002-06-13 Thread md


--- Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't really see the problem.  You can map all the
 URLs that end with 
 a certain extension to one module that does some
 work and then calls a 
 template.  

OK...the little light bulb has just come on...

I didn't realize that I could put my templates
directly in htdocs. Now I can create a template and
call it index.phtml and set DirectoryIndex to include
index.phtml and all works like I want.

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Mapping to location /

2002-06-12 Thread md

I'm replacing an exisiting PHP site with mod_perl and
Template-Toolkit.

I normally set up mod_perl to use a location like
this:

Location /something

and set the handler to my mod_perl module.

However, I need to map to / since I'm replacing a
system where there are existing PHP files like
www.someserver.com/index.php or
www.someserver.com/about.php.

I decided to do use

Location /

to map to my main mod_perl script. 

The first thing it does is to check if the uri ends
with a .phtml extension (or www.someserver.com or
www.someserver.com/...same with subdirectories). If
there is, I continue processing, otherwise I decline
it and let Apache handle it. 

If I have a .phtml (or a directory index) I check if I
have a template. If I have a template TT takes over,
if not I return DECLINED and let Apache take over.

http.conf
-
Location /
PerlSetVar websrc_root /usr/local/templates
SetHandler  perl-script
PerlHandler Test::MyModule
/Location

Beginning of MyModule.pm
-
# Get the uri
my($uri, $uri2);
$uri = $uri2 = $r-uri;
$uri2 =~ s[^/][];  # remove the leading '/'

# We only want to see .phtml files, or urls that end
with '/'
# or where the stuff past the last '/' doesn't contain
any '.'s.
# We'll check the later two case for a template and
then
# decline it if no template is found.
unless ($uri =~ /\.phtml$/ or
$uri =~ m!/$! or
$uri =~ m!.*/[^\.]+$!) {
return DECLINED;
}

Is this the best way to do this?

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Re: Mapping to location /

2002-06-12 Thread md


--- Aaron Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would
 
  Files *.phtml
 
  /Files
 
 do the trick?

No...the files don't actually exist under htdocs since
I'm using Template-Toolkit.

Thanks though.

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Re: Mapping to location /

2002-06-12 Thread md


--- Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can't you just drop the Location and use
 Files *.phtml
SetHandler 
 /Files
 or something like that? Seems like it would avoid
 some overhead for you.

True...but the files don't actually exist. The
path/filename is used to map to a template.

 However, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean
 with
   $uri =~ m!.*/[^\.]+$!) {

This may not be the best regex..but what I was trying
to do was to match something like
/directory/subdirectory which would normally be
redirected back to
/directory/subdirectory/index.html (or whatever is
set as DirectoryIndex files). I want to check for a
/directory/subdirectory/index.phtml file.

 Hmm, but if you don't have a template, then you have
 nothing to serve, right?

I'd like to also have other mod_perl handlers mapped
to other Locations like normal, so for example
/something I may not have a corresponding template
but I would have a
Location /something.

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Re: Mapping to location /

2002-06-12 Thread md


--- Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 19:14 12.06.2002, Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:
 Location .*\.phtml|/
 
 Sorry, make that LocationMatch
 
 ...
 /Location
 
 And /LocationMatch of course.

That should work...thanks.

For the most part *all* .phtml pages will be doing the
same thing, taking session data and parsing out
templates. 

In some cases I may need something entirely different
as far as logic goes, like a message board or a reg
form, but still using TT and session data. That's
where I'll be using a different Location, TT Plugins
or Stas's suggestion...or any other suggestions I may
receive. HTML::Mason would probably be a closer match
to what I'm trying to do (replacing PHP), but we use
TT for everything :)

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Re: Mapping to location /

2002-06-12 Thread md


--- darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 If you use a translation handler, you can just
 return DECLINED for
 everything you aren't specifically handling, and let
 mod_dir do it's
 thing, instead of emulating it.

I still would like to check first if there is an
index.phtml template instead of going directly to the
directory index files like index.html. Can I add my
virtual index.phtml to DirectoryIndex so I don't
have to look for it in my handler? I'm not quite clear
on this one...but it might be once I read the guide on
translation handlers :)
 
 I think what you want is something like this:

I'll try this...thanks.


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