Jeanie, I think your site does a great job of authenticating the bootleg
Chaykins from the real ones, but I couldn't really say so because I have never
seen a bootleg Chaykin...
I have, however, seen quite a few real Chaykins because my husband, Charley
Lippincott, is the man sitting at the
I would never bid on a slabbed anything.
The reasons are painfully obvious, aren't they?
Phil E.
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From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia
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Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at
Higher shipping costs?
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From: Phil Edwards
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Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage
I would never bid on a slabbed anything.
The reasons are painfully obvious, aren't
I too hate slabbing, especially on comic books where it makes them
unreadable. Why not start slabbing particularly fine examples of food, so it
will become un-eatable?
But here is how it will likely go:
An unnamed auction house or two will start auctioning more and more of these
monstrosities.
Three times *EVERY *week we auction hundreds of items that sell for low, low
prices (we actually sell lots and lots of items for $1 and $2, and around
half of all that we auction goes for $14 and under, and our leading
'competitor *NEVER* auctions a single item for less than *FIFTEEN DOLLARS*,
due
The point of slabbing is exactly as Bruce writes - its designed to assure
people new to the hobby that the cards are real and graded properly. These new
collectors don't know Bruce or Rich, don't know how to grade lobby cards and
don't know who to trust. But they still are interested in
I don't know anything about slabbing, but I just can't see myself buying
anything I can't touch. Why would I want a poster that I can't frame or at
least look at as it was intended to be seen once in a while?
Maybe I'm missing the point, but I prefer to enjoy my purchases differently
(should
Question:
Would the recent plethora of fake Universal and vintage posters -- lobby cards
and other sizes -- be detected if they were neatly slabbed between clear
plastic??
Wasn't it only after close inspection of the actual posters that the deception
uncovered?? If so, how could this be done
Hey, guys and girlsdon't miss your chance to own some of these
vintage original one sheets at the extraordinary low opening bid of 99
cents each. All posters are guaranteed original and ALL are starting at
99 cents each. See you there!!
Many
of these posters will sell for less than $5
Thank you, Cory, for a voice of reason.
This is a small hobby and for it to grow or that matter for any hobby,
business, or enterprise of any nature, often one must try to embrace or at
least realize that there will be change. To try to ignore these changes is
like living in 1980 and
Grey,
I hear some say, Oh, I can't touch it so I wouldn't want it! Do you not
have a pair of scissors? Cut the card out of the slab and frame it with the
saved grading label put on the back of the frame! You know what you have
bought!! If you go to sell it, either the potential buyer or
The key here is that the card can easily be removed from the slab by the new
buyer. i don't think most people object to the idea of an independent grading
assessment, but they don't like the idea of having their beautiful card stuck
in a slab of plastic.
RDB
Richard Del Belso
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Doug,
What the slabbing will do theoretically, is bring consistency to the grading
of lobby cards and with the third-party grading, bring greater confidence to
the buyer. The item is placed in a tamper proof slabbing once graded, which
is, I am told, of a chemically neutral make-up so as not
If this is Heritage's solution to the recent problems with high-quality
fake lobby cards, I am not impressed.
The Captain has nailed what many others have been only circling around
with this topic: Once something has been slabbed, you *cannot* open it
without invalidating the certificate. So,
I have 4 words for you: Slabbed Mexican Lobby Cards!
Get your wallets out now!
Evan
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Grey,
I hear some say, Oh, I can't touch it so I wouldn't want it! Do you
not have a pair of scissors? Cut the card out of the slab and frame it
with the saved grading label put on the back of the frame! You know what
you have bought!! If you go to sell it, either the potential buyer or
I just Bought It Now for the heck of it. I've never seen the Portal
version, maybe it will be better quality than the repro that Moviegoods
and others routinely sell for $20. I note that the seller really didn't
claim it was an original just that it was a vintage poster. This has
become a
Thanks for writing just about what I was thinking, Bruce.
I see no one has answered the question you asked about who owns, or has an
interest in CGC.
And no one has yet answered John Reid's question about the cost of slabbing a
single lobby card. Is it a flat fee or a percentage of the
value
I have a few CGC graded stills. To be honest, I wasn't thrilled about
getting them but the scenes were unique so I bought them. Maybe I'm a
fogey, too, but I like the touch of old paper and the thrill of seeing it as
it was then, minus the vagaries of time. Framing things doesn't affect this
We've had someone with plenty of experience of handling movie paper,
but with eyes that couldn't see, as well as other issues.
Now we have people with eyes that presumably see, albeit in a
completely different area of collecting and with presumably very
little experience of handling movie
As a dealer, I would like to see new people attracted to the hobby as much as
anybody.
And I would hate to be tagged as resistant to change. But, frankly, I just
don't see this as
the ticket to new blood.
If slabbed lobby cards become commonplace, then MovieArt won't shun them
necessarily,
You will love this particular Portal. I have a minty one framed and enjoy
seeing it every day as there is no way in hell I could ever afford the real one
sheet. I purchased it on Ebay about 6 years ago and actually had to fight a
bit to get it. It's the only repro I own, as it is IMHO one of
Richard, I think you've hit the nail on the head: Slabbing reduces lobby cards
to simple commodities and nothing else.
The majority of collectors (new or old) collect movie paper because they love
film, vintage graphics, certain genres and/or stars. It's a very personal
passion.
Slabbed
Dave
It is no coincidence that the few who love the slabbing idea are those who
SELL expensive lobby cards. They WANT them reduced to simple commodities.
Find any collectors who are not also dealers like this.
Bruce
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Dave Rosen hah...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Bruce et al,
I'll chime in here, and then I probably won't anymore on this topic.
The subtext here is that Heritage wants these lobby cards slabbed because
they think of them as simple commodities. ALL dealers to some extent
think of their inventories as commodities. There is that ASPECT to any
The strategy for the anti-slabbers is obvious: Starting NOW, before
slabbing gets a foothold, you need to advertise your lobby cards as NEVER
SLABBED!, implying that that's a good thing, and that never having been
slabbed is a virtue. Like original miles on a classic car meaning it
hasn't been
Is there something wrong with this hobby?
I ask this for the following reason. Today, I had an auction closing
on EBAY for an original 1941 lobby card -- a beautiful linen-paper
portrait card of Rita Hayworth and Fred Astaire in a tuxedo from YOU
WERE NEVER LOVELIER that I've had for
Is there something wrong with this hobby?
I ask this for the following reason. Today, I had an auction closing
on EBAY for an original 1941 lobby card -- a beautiful linen-paper
portrait card of Rita Hayworth and Fred Astaire in a tuxedo from YOU
WERE NEVER LOVELIER that I've had for
Channing my brother, it's the new reality. the people who wanted that
stuff are dying everyday
or completed their collections (which is kind of the same thing as dying)
I have also been selling Rita Hayworth for bargain basement prices,
like Cover Girl for $10 each
20 years from now, most
That's really amazing. I guess that means that those early 1930s
Paramount lobbies with people like George Raft, Carole Lombard,
Marlene Dietrich, Gary Cooper, Cary Grant are pretty much of little or
no value now. Nobody knows those people any more! I do think that
the sour economy is
The one positive I see coming from this *might* be some sort of universal
grading standard - if it's known what the standards actually are, and what
makes an 8 an 8, instead of a 7 or 9. Maybe I've missed it, but has the
grading criteria been made available for mortals to peruse, if not adopt?
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