[MOSAIC] Determining Importance

Is anyone aware of a great lesson/lessons to teach determining importance in nonfiction? Thanks. Evelia Sent from my Windows Phone ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literac

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Howdy! I'm needing help with helping my struggling readers get the hang of determining importance. They're having a hard time grasping the concept of importance in relationship to the content of the text. They want to say why things are important, in a global sense. Alissa Pearce Literacy Spec

[MOSAIC] Determining Importance

I have always felt that one of the best ways to work on determining importance is through biographies. Many of the David Adler series work well for this. As you read the book ( for maybe the second time), have the children talk about what is interesting and what is important. Interesting could

[MOSAIC] determining importance

In response to the question about determing importance, I would recommend Stephanie Harvey's book *Nonfiction Matters*. In this book, Harvey recommends using a three column chart with students to record facts, questions, and responses. As the students read, they choose important facts to record und

[MOSAIC] Determining Importance

We're revisiting Determining Importance this week by doing a Textmapping project using a short book about the Trail of Tears. The groups were actively engaged in determining importance like I've never seen them before. Today we highlighted text features like italics and bold print. Tomorrow we w

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Evelia, I think one thing that happens with **some** nonfiction, when there are lots of photos, is that kids skip the captions in the photos. If you include social studies and science texts in this category, which they are, those books often have lots of pictures. There are times when I spend

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To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" Subject: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 9:04 am I would look at Strategies that Work or Nonfiction Mentor Texts Sent from my iPad On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:58 PM, evelia cadet wrote: > Is anyo

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I would look at Strategies that Work or Nonfiction Mentor Texts Sent from my iPad On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:58 PM, evelia cadet wrote: > Is anyone aware of a great lesson/lessons to teach determining importance in > nonfiction? Thanks. > > Evelia > > Sent from my Windows Phone > __

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> Is anyone aware of a great lesson/lessons to teach determining importance in > nonfiction? Thanks.> > Evelia This is a neat site I found recently. http://reading.ecb.org/ It might be helpful, it has student and teacher sections with great info in both. The videos seem to be po

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I agree Renee. What I often do is spend a little time talking about our purpose for reading first and letting that guide the discussion ... I think it was Kylie Beers that uses the example of a text that is a description of a beautiful home. An interior decorator, a real estate agent and a thief

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Indeed they would. And that's why it's so important to ask follow-up questions to clarify. And THAT is one of the biggest things lacking in scripted programs, I think. Unless a teacher is ready, willing, and able to deviate from the script, all questions are directed toward getting the students

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I wonder what would happen if we just asked a student, "Why is this important?" I'm thinking in a context, for example, of my own lesson, when the student asked how Washington's face got on Mount Rushmore. These were third graders. I can easily imagine a student ansswering, "it isn't" and I cou

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It's the testing culture Renee. We test low level and that drives instruction. Think about main idea ... And it's relationship to what we are talking about. Determining importance becomes a game to guess what test authors feel is important... Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM,

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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:23 AM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance It's the testing culture Renee. We test low level and that drives instruction. Think about main idea ... And it's relationship to what we ar

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Was it not Chris Tovani who used this example (different purposes - decorator / real estate agent, and a thief) in her book, "I Read It But I Don't Get It"? Excellent conversation. "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" writes: >I agree Renee. What I often do is spend a littl

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nsion Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance It's the testing culture Renee. We test low level and that drives instruction. Think about main idea ... And it's relationship to what we are talking about. Determining importance becomes a game to guess what test

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tions from a test? Any advice? > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > -Original Message- > From: Palmer, Jennifer > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:23 AM > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance >

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e may help them with finding main idea. I hope I am making sense. Thank you. Evelia Sent from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: evelia cadet Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:03 PM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importa

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: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance Are determining importance and finding the author's main idea the same thing? If they are not, are they related? How? HELP! Evelia Sent from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: Palme

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om my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: Palmer, Jennifer Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:23 AM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance It's the testing culture Renee. We test low level and that drives instruct

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Sent from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: Palmer, Jennifer Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:23 AM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance It's the testing culture Renee. We test low level and that drives inst

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Thank you !!! Yes,it was Tovani!! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:34 PM, "Kim Thompson" wrote: > Was it not Chris Tovani who used this example (different purposes - > decorator / real estate agent, and a thief) in her book, "I Read It But I > Don't Get It"? Excellent conversation.

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tance and finding the author's main idea the >>> same thing? If they are not, are they related? How? HELP! >>> >>> Evelia >>> >>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Palmer, Jennifer &g

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During this discussion, I keep thinking of the very clever posts on Facebook the last couple of weeks and how they relate to POV and some comments on here. Most of them are career-related and are a series of pictures showing items like "This is what my boss thinks I do," and "This is what my studen

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Thank you Renee and all of you for the great comments and ideas. I love this group!! Evelia > From: phoenix...@sbcglobal.net > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:07:51 -0800 > To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance > > I would say that determi

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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:07:51 -0800 >> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance >> >> I would say that determining importance is important in getting to >> the main idea, and establishing the main idea is helpful in >>

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;> Are determining importance and finding the author's main idea the same >>> thing? If they are not, are they related? How? HELP! >>> >>> Evelia >>> >>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>> >>> -Original Message- >&

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Evelia >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> >> -Original Message- >> From: evelia cadet >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:03 PM >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance &g

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ic-bounces+ida.hollowaybyrd=killeenisd@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of sdcteac...@aol.com [sdcteac...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:10 PM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance I would love to see the pictur

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I don't think there is anything wrong with teaching kids how to do both - determine importance of text AND find that pesky main idea that the test author wants you to find. They are two different but related things. I know you were asking about main idea/determining importance but I will share

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al Message- From: mosaic-bounces+wardl=laramie1@literacyworkshop.org [mailto:mosaic-bounces+wardl=laramie1@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of Sally Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:19 PM To: mosaic listserve Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance A book I thought was he

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mas > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:19 PM > To: mosaic listserve > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance > > A book I thought was helpful is A Teachers' Guide to Standardized Reading > Tests by Lucy Calkins, Beverly Falk and other NY teachers... > They were a teacher

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prehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance Put Thinking To The Test by Lori Conrad, Missy Mathews, Cheryl Zimmerman and Patrick Allen is another great source for "thinking" through a test, and Sally they actually use tests as a genre. It is an excellent boo

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Hi Alissa, Perhaps it would help if you model referring back to the text and rereading to support your thinking? Then, encourage your students to support their ideas with information from the read aloud. Always ask for examples from the book and reread those particular pages to your stude

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Alissa I am not sure if this is what you are looking for, but I always teach determining importance with purpose setting. What is important depends upon your purpose for reading. Jennifer In a message dated 5/21/2009 3:04:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alissa.pea...@pisd.edu writes: Howdy

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point out that that's ok. Hope this helps a little. -Original Message- From: mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org [mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Pearce Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:04 PM To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Subject: [MOSAIC] determining im

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Alissa, The comprehension toolkit has good lessons for determining importance. the center around what you think is important compared to what you think the author thinks is important. You use the evidence from the text to support the answers. For fiction how about the purse lesson from

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will you elaborate on what is in your gym bag and how they decide what is important. I like this better than my purse. What do you put into the bag? On May 22, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Joanne Stano wrote: Alissa, The comprehension toolkit has good lessons for determining importance. the cente

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x27;t remember which book. Thanks, Paula Slater Reading Recovery Teacher ---Original Message--- From: Gilbert, Melissa Date: 05/22/09 07:35:44 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] determining importance I use something called RCRR. Read,

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I love this. I have just the pattern for it. This pattern has character traits on one side. So I can add important and interesting facts I can't wait to see how my students respond. On May 23, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Jeanne Hunter wrote: I have always felt that one of the best ways to work on d

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Patricia I walk everyday and stop at the high school for weights. Many of my students see me walking and know my the area. In my gym bag I have: work out clothes: shirt, shorts, pants, sweatshirt,socks shoes phone deodorant - because I sweat and what if I meet someone I know nail file- in ca

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Yes, that really helps my bag is pretty empty compared to yours. I will have to add some things. This will be fun. On May 23, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Joanne Stano wrote: Patricia I walk everyday and stop at the high school for weights. Many of my students see me walking and know my the area.

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Could you possibly desribe the pattern you use for the paper doll literacy project? Thanks a lot Andrea Pepitone Buckman Elementary Portland, Oregon >>> Patricia Kimathi 05/23/09 9:10 AM >>> I love this. I have just the pattern for it. This pattern has character traits on one side. So I can ad

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I will find it when I go back to school. It came from a literacy project On May 24, 2009, at 6:58 AM, Andrea Pepitone wrote: Could you possibly desribe the pattern you use for the paper doll literacy project? Thanks a lot Andrea Pepitone Buckman Elementary Portland, Oregon Patricia Kimathi

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5/NJ - Original Message - From: "Paula Slater" To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 10:40:58 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] determining importance Hi, I use Read, Cover, remember, Retell in m

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I am beginning a strategy study on determininig importance to prepare my fourth graders for researching information for feature articles. I am bored with my lessons of the past of marking text, identifying main idea, etc. I'm looking for ways to spice up this unit. Does anyone have any fresh

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Stephanie Harvey's Comprehension Toolkit for nonfiction is exceptional. In a message dated 2/8/2008 4:13:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am beginning a strategy study on determininig importance to prepare my fourth graders for researching information for feat

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Look in the tools page for the "house" lesson. It's very engaging, and the kids improve greatly afterwards. Joy/NC/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org

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ay, February 08, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] determining importance > Look in the tools page for the "house" lesson. It's very engaging, and the > kids improve greatly afterwards. > >Joy/NC/4 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > How children learn is as

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Recently I was able to tour the Hermitage, Andrew Jackson's home outside of Nashville, Tennessee. I had read Irving Stone's The President's Lady years ago and thoroughly delighted in the opportunity to walk into history a bit. However, I was so disappointed by the museum. A great deal of display

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And I am doing Open Court. I am jealous, jealous, jealous. I sneak good read-alouds into my lessons and teach real comprehension strategies and help my first graders begin to break the code and become strategic listeners and readers. By and large, I'm comfortable with what I do, but this

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Hi Joy, What book are you using for the Trail of Tears? I'll be teaching my class about this topic later this year, and this sounds like a great activity! Thanks for sharing! Eve At 06:32 PM 11/29/2006, you wrote: >We're revisiting Determining Importance this week by doing a >Textmapping pro

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Does anyone have any successful lessons with helping kids identify main ideas of nonfiction text? Looking for some fresh lessons and strategies! Thanks, Kerry/5th ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your memb

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This is why it was so hard to think of leaving my school last year. Thank goodness our new administrator embraces what I'm doing. Although I envy school systems with libraries, leveled book rooms, and other fabulous resources, having the freedom and flexibility to do things like this is a privil

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Kerry, Try Textmapping! http://www.textmapping.org/ Joy/NC/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org - Everyone is ravin

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Eve, We are reading The Trail of Tears by Joseph Bruchac. It is a "Step into Reading" book, level 5. It is not as challenging as I would like, but it is a good way to introduce Textmapping so they can focus on the process. The story I wanted to use is: The Trail on Which They Wept: T

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Comprehension Strategies Listserv Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance Recently I was able to tour the Hermitage, Andrew Jackson's home outside of Nashville, Tennessee. I had read Irving Stone's The President's Lady years ago and thoroughly delighted in the opportunity to walk int

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Joy, ABE has seven copies of this book. On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:53 , Joy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Eve, > > We are reading The Trail of Tears by Joseph Bruchac. It is

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Comprehension StrategiesListserv Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance Joy, ABE has seven copies of this book. <http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=Dorothy+Hoobler&y=9&; tn=The+Trail+on+Which+They +Wept&x=93&sortby=2> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:

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War Comes to Willy Freeman Sarah Bishop The Fighting Ground Hope's Crossing Toliver's Secret Johnny Tremain George Washington's Socks My Brother Sam is Dead > Does anyone have any book suggestions for the Revolutionary War? I am > interested in novels and read a louds. > Suzanne/VA > > >

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Guns for General Washington by Seymour Reit War Comes to Willy Freeman Sarah Bishop The Fighting Ground Hope's Crossing Toliver's Secret Johnny Tremain George Washington's Socks My Brother Sam is Dead > Does anyone have any book suggestions for the Revolutionary War? I am > interested in nov

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Here's a suggestion I saved. I haven't checked it out, though. Eve George vs. George : The Revolutionary War as Seen by Both Sides by

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I understand what you mean. I think children need to know about this event in history. It's not pretty, and they need to know that our history includes shameful events such as this. ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Recently I was able to tour the Hermitage, Andrew Jackson's home outside of