Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-22 Thread Mike S
I have used Netscape for years, and am used to Communicator 4.08. I have begun to suspect it for crashes, so am considering options, including Navigator 4.08 as a web browser. I presently use W95B and will shortly go to W98SE on a home machine. I have 98 MB EDO RAM with my P166MMX. Just as a

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-22 Thread Alex
Mike S wrote: > I have used Netscape for years, and am used to Communicator 4.08. > I have begun to suspect it for crashes, so am considering > options, including Navigator 4.08 as a web browser. > I presently use W95B and will shortly go to W98SE on a home > machine. I have 98 MB EDO RAM wit

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-22 Thread Mike S
[This followup was posted to alt.usenet.offline-reader and a copy was sent to the cited author.] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... > Mike S wrote: > > > I have used Netscape for years, and am used to Communicator 4.08. > > I have begun to suspect it for crashes, so am

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-23 Thread JTK
Mozilla is way too much of a pig for your machine. I have a PIII/933/256MB here, and it's not really usable. You really should upgrade to Communicator 4.77 though. 4.08 is extremely old and 4.77 is pretty stable. Mike S wrote: > > I have used Netscape for years, and am used to Communicator 4.

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-23 Thread Alex
JTK wrote: > Mozilla is way too much of a pig for your machine. I have a > PIII/933/256MB here, and it's not really usable. > I've learned that varies greatly and depends on the person, and possibly what we're already running on our machine. I have an Athlon 750 with 128MB RAM, and before I

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-23 Thread {fws}
Mike S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Mike S wrote: >> >>> I have used Netscape for years, and am used to Communicator 4.08. >>> I have begun to suspect it for crashes, so am considering >>> options, including Navigator 4.08 as a web browser. >>> I presently use W95B and

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-23 Thread Fabian Guisset
JTK wrote: > Mozilla is way too much of a pig for your machine. I have a > PIII/933/256MB here, and it's not really usable. > > You really should upgrade to Communicator 4.77 though. 4.08 is > extremely old and 4.77 is pretty stable. H noo.. if you can't run Moz on a 933 then you have se

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-24 Thread JTK
Fabian Guisset wrote: > > JTK wrote: > > > Mozilla is way too much of a pig for your machine. I have a > > PIII/933/256MB here, and it's not really usable. > > > > You really should upgrade to Communicator 4.77 though. 4.08 is > > extremely old and 4.77 is pretty stable. > > H noo.. if yo

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-24 Thread hume . spamfilter
JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who said I can't run it? I said it's unusable. As in, both > Communicator 4.77 and IE/Outlook Express run circles around it > speed-wise, functionality-wise, every-wise. On the *75* MHz SPARC that I use Mozilla on: Mozilla consumes less RAM than IE; renders as f

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-24 Thread JTK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Who said I can't run it? I said it's unusable. As in, both > > Communicator 4.77 and IE/Outlook Express run circles around it > > speed-wise, functionality-wise, every-wise. > > On the *75* MHz SPARC that I use Mozilla on: Mozill

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-24 Thread Orrin Edenfield
JTK wrote: > What axe do you think I'm grinding? I'll admit that the failure of the > Mozilla project has been a crushing disappointment to me, but does that > count as an axe? > Don't call us a failure until 1.0 ships. Then you can make your own judgement. I'm using a nightly after 0.8.1

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-24 Thread JTK
Orrin Edenfield wrote: > > JTK wrote: > > > What axe do you think I'm grinding? I'll admit that the failure of the > > Mozilla project has been a crushing disappointment to me, but does that > > count as an axe? > > > > Don't call us a failure until 1.0 ships. But I can't wait for the Rapture

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-25 Thread hume . spamfilter
JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On the *75* MHz SPARC that I use Mozilla on: > Mozilla and what else? And what OS? And what Army? ;-) Mozilla and 6-10 rxvts, Oracle, Tomcat+Apache, and whatever the other users are running. > So you're running NT then? How much less RAM? On my Why2K box her

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-25 Thread JTK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On the *75* MHz SPARC that I use Mozilla on: > > Mozilla and what else? And what OS? And what Army? ;-) > > Mozilla and 6-10 rxvts, Oracle, Tomcat+Apache, and whatever the other users > are running. > Ok, so it's not NT. So wha

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-25 Thread Garth Wallace
JTK wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is why I compare Mozilla on Solaris against IE on >> *Solaris*, where neither has a blatant advantage. > > Well, you mean where both have a blatant disadvantage, i.e., running on > an OS which was never desig

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-25 Thread Orrin Edenfield
JTK wrote: > But I can't wait for the Rapture. I figure it's best to get it out of > the way now, so that, assuming Mozilla ships before we're all nothing > but dry bones, I can at that time roll out the "I told you so"'s. "Now" > of course meaning 3+ years down a sad, lonely, fruitless, yet >

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-26 Thread JTK
Orrin Edenfield wrote: > > JTK wrote: > > > But I can't wait for the Rapture. I figure it's best to get it out of > > the way now, so that, assuming Mozilla ships before we're all nothing > > but dry bones, I can at that time roll out the "I told you so"'s. "Now" > > of course meaning 3+ years

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-26 Thread Orrin Edenfield
JTK wrote: > Not without planting a stake in the ground next to it. And I have a > very hard time calling it progress when both the basic functionality > *and* resource usage are significantly worse than the programs it is > ostensibly intended to replace. Your bound to make alot of people mad

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-26 Thread Wolfgang Zeikat
Orrin Edenfield schrieb: > > ?!??!?!! *MOZILLA'S* mail/news client?!? It's a freaken' mess man! > > No way. I like the email app. I've use Eudora, Opera Mail, Outlook > Express, and I use Outlook at work, and I prefer Mozilla Mail. I'm just > used to it (I used to use Netscape Mail). > wha

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-26 Thread Justin H.
Wolfgang Zeikat wrote: > > Orrin Edenfield schrieb: > > > > ?!??!?!! *MOZILLA'S* mail/news client?!? It's a freaken' mess man! > > > > No way. I like the email app. I've use Eudora, Opera Mail, Outlook > > Express, and I use Outlook at work, and I prefer Mozilla Mail. I'm just > > used to i

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-27 Thread Ian Davey
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mozilla is way too much of a pig for your machine. I have a >PIII/933/256MB here, and it's not really usable. That's strange, I'm using it on a PII/233/64MB machine and it is perfectly usable, in fact it's pretty nippy when it's up

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-27 Thread JTK
Orrin Edenfield wrote: > > JTK wrote: > > > Not without planting a stake in the ground next to it. And I have a > > very hard time calling it progress when both the basic functionality > > *and* resource usage are significantly worse than the programs it is > > ostensibly intended to replace. >

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-27 Thread Orrin Edenfield
Wolfgang Zeikat wrote: > what do you do when you want to copy headers from messages? make a > screenshot, then print and scan it? > > that part is a "freaken' mess" in my view too, the multi-account feature > is nice tho. When do I ever need to copy a header? As far as I use them, they tell

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-27 Thread Orrin Edenfield
JTK wrote: > Oh I excel at that sir. ;-) hehe.. *ducks the egg shells and tomatoes* > I don't disagree. A fat, out of shape guy running a mile is a major > accomplishment. For him. But he's no competition for Olympic > athletes. And in this race, the Olympic athletes don't cost any mor

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-27 Thread hume . spamfilter
JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Your bound to make alot of people mad talking like that > Oh I excel at that sir. ;-) Trolls usually do. > I don't disagree. A fat, out of shape guy running a mile is a major > accomplishment. For him. But he's no competition for Olympic And you're the guy s

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-27 Thread N. Marshall
> I haven't used Netscape email since I got Outlook, because Outlook is > simply so much more advanced, slick, and usable. How is it more advanced, slick, and usable. What features do you use in outlook which you would like to see in mozilla mail and news? Have you filed any enhancement reques

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-28 Thread Sarch
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:49:07 + (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >You're a troll. People ignore you, or ask you to go away, because you >continue to rant the same drivel again and again. You make the same stupid >statements over and over, and when people provide the SAME ANSWERS to the >sam

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-28 Thread hume . spamfilter
Sarch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So JTK is a troll just because he thinks Mozilla is a bloated, slow, memory > hog? Rubbish. It certainly is on Windows, and JTK makes a lot of valid No, he's a troll because he claims to think so, and posts such again and again and AGAIN. He's been answered by

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-29 Thread Orrin Edenfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > PS: Please don't feed the trolls. This includes me, if you really think that > is my goal. Yes. I will try to stop feeding them. I've realized that I only encourage them. Thanks for pointing that out. -- Orrin Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.orrinrule.com Get

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-30 Thread JTK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Orrin Edenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >JTK wrote: [snip] >> I don't disagree. A fat, out of shape guy running a mile is a major >> accomplishment. For him. But he's no competition for Olympic >> athletes. And in this race, the Olympic athletes don't cos

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-30 Thread JTK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N. Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I haven't used Netscape email since I got Outlook, because Outlook is >> simply so much more advanced, slick, and usable. > >How is it more advanced, slick, and usable. What features do you use in >outlook which you wou

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-30 Thread JTK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Garth Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >JTK wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> This is why I compare Mozilla on Solaris against IE on >>> *Solaris*, where neither has a blatant advantage. >> >> Well, you mean w

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-30 Thread JTK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N. Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I haven't used Netscape email since I got Outlook, because Outlook is >> simply so much more advanced, slick, and usable. > >How is it more advanced, slick, and usable. What features do you use in >outlook which you wou

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-30 Thread JTK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Your bound to make alot of people mad talking like that > > Oh I excel at that sir. ;-) > > Trolls usually do. > OUCH! You got me GOOD there Mr. Hume! > > I don't disagree. A fat, out of shape guy running a mile is a major >

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-30 Thread expat
JTK wrote: > You haven't seen much of Outlook then. If it had a decent newsreader in it, > I'd have completely dumped Nav4.7x long ago. There is one great feature in the Mozilla newsreader that has me hooked: when I move the mouse over the subject list panel or message panel, the mouse wheel

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-30 Thread Tim Wunder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N. Marshall > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> I haven't used Netscape email since I got Outlook, because Outlook is >>> simply so much more advanced, slick, and usable. >> >>How is it more advanced, slick, and usable. What features do

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-04-30 Thread Mustafa Hirji
> There is one great feature in the Mozilla newsreader that has me hooked: > when I move the mouse over the subject list panel or message panel, the > mouse wheel scrolls the corresponding page without me having to click on > the panel. It may not sound like much but it makes dealing with a hig

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-01 Thread JTK
Hi Tim, Tim Wunder wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > >> Have you > >>filed any enhancement requests/looked for some of them in bugzilla? > > > > God no! I don't want to bring the whole thing to a dead stop! > > > > Hmmm... I seem to remember reading one of your posts indicating t

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-02 Thread Ian Davey
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Well I'd hope so, given how much memory it hogs. Again, over 22MB *TO >DISPLAY A BLANK PAGE*. On what platform, on start up it's 14MB to display a blank page here (on WinNT at work). Not sure of the numbers at home on Linux. This

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-02 Thread Tim Wunder
JTK wrote: > > [snip] > > > Moz's Mail/News > > compares very favorably to Outlook Express, I think. Though, admittedly, I > > rarely use Outlook Express (Netscape 4.7x at work, KMail at home). Can you > > change your e-mail identity while composing a message in Outlook Express? > > That's a fea

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-02 Thread Gervase Markham
> Well I'd hope so, given how much memory it hogs. Again, over 22MB *TO > DISPLAY A BLANK PAGE*. I tell you what - we'll make a pre-app that brings up a GIF of Mozilla showing a blank page. Then, when you click on it, it loads the real thing. That way, you can have your blank page with almost no

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-02 Thread Gervase Markham
> depends on how much influence AOL has on the > releases of Mozilla. I suspect that Moz has enough of a life of it's own > to hold back any AOL/Netscape pressure to release a 1.0 product when > it's not ready. Why would AOL/Netscape want to pressure mozilla.org to release Mozilla 1.0 before they

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-02 Thread Tim Wunder
Gervase Markham wrote: > > > depends on how much influence AOL has on the > > releases of Mozilla. I suspect that Moz has enough of a life of it's own > > to hold back any AOL/Netscape pressure to release a 1.0 product when > > it's not ready. > > Why would AOL/Netscape want to pressure mozilla.

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread JTK
Gervase Markham wrote: > > > Well I'd hope so, given how much memory it hogs. Again, over 22MB *TO > > DISPLAY A BLANK PAGE*. > > I tell you what - we'll make a pre-app that brings up a GIF of Mozilla > showing a blank page. Then, when you click on it, it loads the real thing. > That way, you c

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread JTK
Gervase Markham wrote: > > > depends on how much influence AOL has on the > > releases of Mozilla. I suspect that Moz has enough of a life of it's own > > to hold back any AOL/Netscape pressure to release a 1.0 product when > > it's not ready. > > Why would AOL/Netscape want to pressure mozilla.

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread JTK
Ian Davey wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Well I'd hope so, given how much memory it hogs. Again, over 22MB *TO > >DISPLAY A BLANK PAGE*. > > On what platform, Why2K. > on start up it's 14MB to display a blank page here (on > WinNT at work). T

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread Tim Wunder
JTK wrote: > Gervase Markham wrote: > >>>Well I'd hope so, given how much memory it hogs. Again, over 22MB *TO >>>DISPLAY A BLANK PAGE*. >>> >>I tell you what - we'll make a pre-app that brings up a GIF of Mozilla >>showing a blank page. Then, when you click on it, it loads the real thing. >>Th

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread DeMoN LaG
JTK wrote: > Gervase Markham wrote: > >>>depends on how much influence AOL has on the >>>releases of Mozilla. I suspect that Moz has enough of a life of it's own >>>to hold back any AOL/Netscape pressure to release a 1.0 product when >>>it's not ready. >>> >>Why would AOL/Netscape want to pressu

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread JTK
DeMoN LaG wrote: > JTK wrote: > >> Gervase Markham wrote: [snip] >>> Why would AOL/Netscape want to pressure mozilla.org to release >>> Mozilla 1.0 >>> before they thought it was ready? >>> >> >> Yeah, I mean it's never happened before (Netscape 6.0)! > > > > Netscape 6.0 is a commercial

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread JTK
Tim Wunder wrote: > Curiosity got the best of me: > Win 2KPro Sp1: > After browsing the same 20 or so web pages: > IE5: 13,032K > Moz:23,934K (before opening the mail client and subscribing to > Newsgroups) > Moz:41,234K (after closing the mail client) > Moz:44,572K (after re-openin

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread Charles Miller
DeMoN LaG wrote: > AOL can not make business decisions with Mozilla because Mozilla is an > open source project. The vast majority of Mozilla developers, and almost all of those developers with the power to review and check in patches, are employed by AOL. AOL interests play an important rol

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread Carlfish
On Thu, 03 May 2001 15:33:52 -0500, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> somehow managed to type: > >I'm at 54,867 K now. After ~10 minutes. > Weird. I'm at 28,996 On my W2K box after an hour and a half using the new modern theme. In that time I've been to various bits of mozilla.org, slashdot, ibm.com

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread Justin H.
JTK wrote: > > Tim Wunder wrote: > > > Curiosity got the best of me: > > Win 2KPro Sp1: > > After browsing the same 20 or so web pages: > > IE5: 13,032K > > Moz:23,934K (before opening the mail client and subscribing to > > Newsgroups) > > Moz:41,234K (after closing the mail client) > >

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-03 Thread JTK
"Justin H." wrote: [snip] > > After 10 minutes of heavy surfing, I end up at ~20 megs. How? > I started out > somewhere around ~15 megs. My start page is about: > I started, just now, at 20,180 K. My start page was about:. > The sites I surfed were table heavy, graphics heavy, script he

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-04 Thread Gervase Markham
> IE5: 13,032K How did you get that figure? Remember IE conceals a lot of its memory usage in the chunk allocated to the OS. > Looks like JTK's got a point, eh? If he says that Mozilla's memory usage is not all it could be, of course he has a point. I don't think anyone would claim that there's

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-04 Thread Gervase Markham
> > Browse a chosen 20 > > sites in the two browsers (of equal HTML and CSS functionality), then > > check the memory usage. > > Ah, Mr. Markham, do you *really* want me to do that, and report back > with the results? Yep. If you like. At which point I would say "Yes, Mozilla's memory usage co

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-04 Thread Ian Davey
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ian Davey wrote: >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >Well I'd hope so, given how much memory it hogs. Again, over 22MB *TO >> >DISPLAY A BLANK PAGE*. >> >> On what platform, > >Why2K. > >>

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-04 Thread Steve Hodge
JTK wrote: > I started, just now, at 20,180 K. My start page was about:. You've got 256M, what's an extra 10M? Come to think of it if you're so happy with IE and Outlook why are you here? I'm using Mozilla 0.8.1 here with a K6-2 500 and 128M and I have no problems with resource usage or spee

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-04 Thread Justin H.
JTK wrote: > > "Justin H." wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > After 10 minutes of heavy surfing, I end up at ~20 megs. > > How? If I knew that, don't you think I'd tell the devs? :-Þ > > I started out > > somewhere around ~15 megs. My start page is about: > > > > I started, just now, at 20,180 K

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-04 Thread JTK
Gervase Markham wrote: > > > IE5: 13,032K > > How did you get that figure? Remember IE conceals a lot of its memory > usage in the chunk allocated to the OS. > So the fable goes, which is why I suggest we eliminate Microsoft from discussion on this issue. Here's what NETSCAPE COMMUNICATOR 4.77

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-04 Thread JTK
Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > Browse a chosen 20 > > > sites in the two browsers (of equal HTML and CSS functionality), then > > > check the memory usage. > > > > Ah, Mr. Markham, do you *really* want me to do that, and report back > > with the results? > > Yep. If you like. Done and done. >

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-04 Thread Justin H.
JTK wrote: > > Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > > IE5: 13,032K > > > > How did you get that figure? Remember IE conceals a lot of its memory > > usage in the chunk allocated to the OS. > > > > So the fable goes, which is why I suggest we eliminate Microsoft from > discussion on this issue. Here's

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-05 Thread Gervase Markham
> NC 4.77: 13,580 K. This was the point of my qualifier in my earlier statement - "of equal functionality". Netscape 4.7 uses less memory than Mozilla in the same way that Wordpad uses less memory than Microsoft Word. But hey, they are both applications for editing text, so should have the same m

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-05 Thread Christian Mattar
Hi! JTK wrote: > > Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > > > Browse a chosen 20 > > > > sites in the two browsers (of equal HTML and CSS functionality), then > > > > check the memory usage. > > > > > > Ah, Mr. Markham, do you *really* want me to do that, and report back > > > with the results? > > > >

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-06 Thread Carlfish
On Fri, 04 May 2001 13:32:50 -0700, Justin H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> somehow managed to type: >Moz 2001042604: Mail window, browser open to cnn.com > >Data KB = 26,616 Code KB = 10,632 Total = 37,248 > >IE + OE: one browser window to a local frameset (almost 0 graphics, some >javascript). an

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-06 Thread JTK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >JTK wrote: > >> I started, just now, at 20,180 K. My start page was about:. > >You've got 256M, what's an extra 10M? Come to think of it if you're so >happy with IE and Outlook why are you here? > >I'm using Mozilla 0.8.1

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-06 Thread JTK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >JTK wrote: Sorry Steve, I may have inadvertently CC'ed your email in my reply. [snip] - Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web - http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous po

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-06 Thread JTK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Justin H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >JTK wrote: >> >> "Justin H." wrote: [snip] >> > So obviously there's other factors besides just Mozilla's mem usage. >> >> Obviously. What are they? > >I don't know. It's your computer, you tell us. > Unless my sarcasm m

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-06 Thread JTK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >JTK wrote: > >> I started, just now, at 20,180 K. My start page was about:. > >You've got 256M, what's an extra 10M? Ummm... that'd be a ~5MB difference. About 2% of the memory on my system. To display nothing, a big whi

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-06 Thread JTK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> NC 4.77: 13,580 K. > >This was the point of my qualifier in my earlier statement - "of equal >functionality". That is an important qualifier, because Mozilla provides nowhere near the functionality of NC4.77, and not

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-06 Thread Carlfish
On 7 May 2001 05:12:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> somehow managed to type: >Sounds exactly like what I'm doing. So you must agree with me when I say >Mozilla is not suitable for regular use, and most assuredly not for regular >users. I love Mozilla's web-browsing component,

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-06 Thread Alex
Carlfish wrote: > 4) Frequently, the message-view window will refuse to lay out a message >as anything but a stream of text with no new-lines. This regression was fixed some days ago, which build are you using? And I can confirm the fix since I was really annoyed at it and it hasn't showe

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-07 Thread Carlfish
On Sun, 06 May 2001 23:18:08 -0700, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> somehow managed to type: >Carlfish wrote: > >> 4) Frequently, the message-view window will refuse to lay out a message >>as anything but a stream of text with no new-lines. > > >This regression was fixed some days ago, which bu

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-07 Thread Gervase Markham
> > But hey, they are both > >applications for editing text, > > No, they're not. Notepad is an application for editing text. Wordpad is an > app for editing RTF. Word is an advanced word processor. Not much > similarity between any of these three. Netscape is an app for displaying HTML 3.2

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-07 Thread Mark Anderson
Gervase Markham wrote: > > I know at least one person whose thesis got eaten by Word who would > disagree with you there. And I can name, off the top of my head, 3 dozen more here at Luther who have had the same scenario at least twice. And they're all sophomores. But that's off-topic.

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-07 Thread Mark Anderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Unless my sarcasm meter is faulty, you imply below ("Or did you already know > that?") that my numbers may have been less than "uncooked". To make such an > implication, I would think you'd have to have some idea what these "other > factors" might be. > > You claim

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-07 Thread Justin H.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Justin H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > >JTK wrote: > >> > >> "Justin H." wrote: > > [snip] > > >> > So obviously there's other factors besides just Mozilla's mem usage. > >> > >> Obviously. What are they? > > > >I don't know. It'

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-07 Thread Garth Wallace
Carlfish wrote: > > 3) The message compose window is prone to throwing the cursor back to the >top of the document while you're in the middle of typing. This usually happens to me in 0.8.1 when selecting some text and pressing backspace. Never happens to me for any other reason. I work ar

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-08 Thread JTK
Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > But hey, they are both > > >applications for editing text, > > > > No, they're not. Notepad is an application for editing text. Wordpad is an > > app for editing RTF. Word is an advanced word processor. Not much > > similarity between any of these three. > > Ne

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-08 Thread Gervase Markham
> Sure, but usually with a bunch of qualifiers such as "will eventually > support" and "once the bugs are worked out will largely support". Is > there a simple chart somewhere showing how much more standards-compliant > Mozilla is - today - than NC4.77, IE 6, etc? If not, why not? Well, Netscap

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-08 Thread jesus X
JTK wrote: > Gervase Markham wrote: > > Netscape is an app for displaying HTML 3.2 (basically.) Mozilla supports > > HTML 4, CSS 1 and large parts of 2, XML... but you've heard this list > > before, right? > Sure, but usually with a bunch of qualifiers such as "will eventually > support" and "once

Re: Can my computer handle Mozilla?

2001-05-08 Thread Carlfish
On Tue, 08 May 2001 14:45:52 -0500, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> somehow managed to type: >Sure, but usually with a bunch of qualifiers such as "will eventually >support" and "once the bugs are worked out will largely support". Is >there a simple chart somewhere showing how much more standards-c