Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-14 Thread Brian Heinrich
Chris Charabaruk wrote: > I'm not American either, they just dictate our policies. Merely for the > fact that they are our neighbours to the south. As far as I consider it, > Ottawa is merely a puppet of D.C., which is a puppet itself to filty money. > > Chris > > > Bamm Gabriana wrote: > >>

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-14 Thread Chris Charabaruk
Brian Heinrich wrote: > Chris Charabaruk wrote: > >> I'm not American either, they just dictate our policies. Merely for >> the fact that they are our neighbours to the south. As far as I >> consider it, Ottawa is merely a puppet of D.C., which is a puppet >> itself to filty money. >> >> Chri

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-15 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
Chris Charabaruk wrote: >> But I digress . . . and this is probably /not/ the most appropriate >> place for political discussions anyway. . . . > > No, heh... But there is no netscape.public.mozilla.politics group yet, > so I guess this is the place for this. :) See bug 127495, "Need newsgrou

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-15 Thread Peter Lairo
All this anti american bashing is sooo typical. I'm sure there is "some" justicfication for it. But I have lived in _Germany as an american *all* my life and I know that Europe is not that much better. All the wealth here is concentrated with the former blue bloods ( the Von's, and Zu's) -the

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-16 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
Peter Lairo wrote: > Also, the US didn't create the third world. That's just ridiculous. I > know people that work in the government and the IMF and they try VERY > hard to balance helping poorer countries with the US's own needs. Isn't it the IMF that creates the so-called "export zones" in t

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-16 Thread Brian Heinrich
Peter Lairo wrote: > All this anti american bashing is sooo typical. I'm sure there is "some" > justicfication for it. But I have lived in _Germany as an american *all* > my life and I know that Europe is not that much better. All the wealth > here is concentrated with the former blue bloods (

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-18 Thread Hans-Peter Fischer
Peter Lairo wrote: > I have lived in _Germany as an american *all* > my life and I know that Europe is not that much better. All the wealth > here is concentrated with the former blue bloods ( the Von's, and Zu's) LOL If you have lived in Germany "all your life" you have obviously done so wit

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-18 Thread Peter Lairo
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote: > The rest of your claims is of a similar quality - not really worth > discussing. Oh, I forgot to mention arrogance/blockage toward critical views (requiring introspective and self-criticism). ;) -- Regards, Peter Lairo

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-19 Thread Rene ALBERT
Peter Lairo wrote: > Hans-Peter Fischer wrote: > >> The rest of your claims is of a similar quality - not >> really worth discussing. > > > Oh, I forgot to mention arrogance/blockage toward critical > views (requiring introspective and self-criticism). ;) > Peter, this is not a political

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-19 Thread Peter Lairo
Rene ALBERT wrote: > Peter, this is not a political forum, and all your > "out-of-subject" messages are merely bullshit, sorry. Your facts are irrefutable. You're so right! NOT! ;) -- Regards, Peter Lairo

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-21 Thread Peter Lairo
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote: > Oh yeah, human rights like keeping prisoners in 1.8 x 2.4 m wire mesh > cages, right? And are prison cells in Germany much larger? No! And prisoners don't have the nice surround-view nor pleasant tropical climate as the AlKaida terrorists and murderers (let's not f

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-21 Thread Martin Fritsche
Peter Lairo wrote: > And are prison cells in Germany much larger? No! Sure they are. And they are in a real building, protecting the prisoners of strorms and rain. > And prisoners don't > have the nice surround-view nor pleasant tropical climate I suggest you spend your next holidays there.

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-21 Thread Peter Lairo
Martin Fritsche wrote: > Peter Lairo wrote: > >> And are prison cells in Germany much larger? No! > > Sure they are. And they are in a real building, protecting the prisoners > of strorms and rain. That's because it's *cold* in Germany. Subtropical cultures don't need the solid contructions a

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-21 Thread La pooh
As always when not on the same side, the americans think they are great, we europeans think we are great and the americans are stupid. But, ultimately, the americans are european, 1776 or something, they became a nation, that´s a laugh if you are from europe. And ofcourse, living standard if qui

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-21 Thread Martin Fritsche
Peter Lairo wrote: > That's because it's *cold* in Germany. Subtropical cultures don't need > the solid contructions as are needed in the norther hemisphere. Sure. That's why people can life in boxes made of wire and wood. People in california also think that there ist nothing better than livi

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-21 Thread Peter Lairo
Martin Fritsche wrote: > Peter Lairo wrote: > >> That's because it's *cold* in Germany. Subtropical cultures don't need >> the solid contructions as are needed in the norther hemisphere. > > Sure. That's why people can life in boxes made of wire and wood. People > in california also think that

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-21 Thread Hans-Peter Fischer
Peter Lairo wrote: > Remember, the wired box people were murderous criminals. You really make it difficult for people not to call you an idiot. Every decent source of information - including US media - speak of *suspected* Al-Quaeda members, and Taliban *soldiers*. Only you *know* that they w

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-21 Thread BigRedFed
200 years of Independence is a laugh... I guess you've been alive for all two hundred of those years to actually know how rediculous that is. So, if we're all basically Europeans, doesn't that mean that we have behind us, not only the 200 years of independent culture which we have develop

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-22 Thread Peter Lairo
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote: > Peter Lairo wrote: > >> Remember, the wired box people were murderous criminals. > > You really make it difficult for people not to call you an idiot. Every > decent source of information - including US media - speak of *suspected* > Al-Quaeda members, and Taliban

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-22 Thread Peter Lairo
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote: > Peter Lairo wrote: > >> >> Tortured, who/where? That's new to me. I would certainly not agree >> with that. > > > Read this: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,665939,00.html A very interesting article. I will have to investigate that further. I

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-23 Thread Brian Heinrich
Peter Lairo wrote: > Germans still haven't really accepted that the whole world is gradually > becoming a "meltingpot". And, of course, Americans have yet to accept that the world is actually much more akin to a cultural mosaic. Oh, wait; that's the indoctrinated Canadian part of me speaking

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-23 Thread Brian Heinrich
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote: > BigRedFed wrote: > >> make sure you don't take your eyes off of your own youth as they look >> towards our Nation with envy and regard and build an America >> underneath your own feet. > > > You're addressing one of the main problems there, actually. You dump all

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-23 Thread BigRedFed
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote: > BigRedFed wrote: > >> make sure you don't take your eyes off of your own youth as they look >> towards our Nation with envy and regard and build an America >> underneath your own feet. > > > You're addressing one of the main problems there, actually. You dump all

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-24 Thread Hans-Peter Fischer
BigRedFed wrote: > So it's our fault that you can't teach your own kids better? It's "your" fault that you are trying to manipulate people, often enough by appealing to the lowest instincts in man and exploiting the stupidity of the masses, and "our" fault, i. e. that of the majority, that "we"

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-24 Thread Peter Lairo
Brian Heinrich wrote: > Peter Lairo wrote: >> Germans still haven't really accepted that the whole world is gradually >> becoming a "meltingpot". > > And, of course, Americans have yet to accept that the world is actually > much more akin to a cultural mosaic. Oh, I like *mosaic* much better th

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-24 Thread SoloCDM
Peter Lairo stated the following: > > Brian Heinrich wrote: > > > Peter Lairo wrote: > > >> Germans still haven't really accepted that the whole world is gradually > >> becoming a "meltingpot". > > > And, of course, Americans have yet to accept that the world is actually > > much more akin to a c

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions

2002-03-24 Thread blackbox
"SoloCDM" escribió: > > As for, "maintaining one's own identity." You couldn't have a diverse > multitude of cultural human beings if a loss of identity was a fact. > YES!

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions (+ Mozilla question)

2002-03-21 Thread Hans-Peter Fischer
Peter Lairo wrote: > > Tortured, who/where? That's new to me. I would certainly not agree with > that. Read this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,665939,00.html > I thought everyone had at *least* one phonecall. Peter, you are totally uninformed. A simple Google search wou

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions (+ Mozilla question)

2002-03-21 Thread Travis Crump
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote: > Peter, you are totally uninformed. A simple Google search would have > taken you to the full story behind the World Court's ruling. But you > seem to prefer cultivating your dream. Okay, I will bite, I did a simple Google search and here is what I came up with: a

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions (+ Mozilla question)

2002-03-21 Thread Martin Fritsche
Travis Crump wrote: > Okay, I will bite, I did a simple Google search and here is what I came > up with: > a) I assume you are referring to the Lagrande case. Yes, he did. > b) The German goverment was informed in 1992, seven years before they > were executed. Prior to that it was unkn

Re: U.S. Export Restrictions (+ Mozilla question)

2002-03-21 Thread Christopher Jahn
And it came to pass that Martin Fritsche wrote: > Travis Crump wrote: > >> Okay, I will bite, I did a simple Google search and here >> is what I came up with: >> a) I assume you are referring to the Lagrande case. > > Yes, he did. > >> b) The German goverment was informed in 1992, seven