Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-28 Thread Michelle Gross
From our website: WHAT IS POLICE BRUTALITY? Communities United Against Police Brutality defines police brutality as the use of excessive or unnecessary force by police officers with the purpose or expectation of causing death, bodily harm or mental harm to a human being. It is generally

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-27 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Oct 26, 2003, at 10:40 PM, Michelle Gross wrote: At 09:02 PM 10/26/03 -0600, Neal Krasnoff wrote: Don't change the subject. Address the statement of fact as written. snip On Oct 26, 2003, at 3:24 PM, Rosalind Nelson wrote: Mark Anderson writes: snip Michelle Gross posted a few days ago

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-27 Thread Michael Atherton
Anne McCandless wrote: Today it became apparent to me that the definition of POLICE BRUTALITY varies. How do people on this list, esp CUAPB, define police brutality? Interesting assignment. This question has helped me realize that there are at least two definitions, depending on the

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Anderson Turpin
Anne -- This is a great posting! We continue to see postings on this List complaining about all the police brutality, but there seems to be no distinctions made between true police brutality and the whining andblatant lies by many criminals looking to get out of their screw-ups by blaming

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread WizardMarks
Rosalind Nelson wrote: Doctors can be good people or bad people. Some of them are very good at what they do and some are bad. But there seems to be an understanding among doctors that they need to have a standard of ethics that applies to all of them. WM: I don't think that is

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Oct 26, 2003, at 4:01 PM, WizardMarks wrote: Every cop wants to go home to his/her family at the end of shift. That is why an officer, when faced with an apparent EDP who is attacking the officer with a knife - will react as his training has taught him: ...sight alignment, trigger control,

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Rosalind Nelson
Neal Krasnoff wrote: That is why an officer, when faced with an apparent EDP who is attacking the officer with a knife - will react as his training has taught him: ...sight alignment, trigger control, center mass. The officers might benefit from more nuanced training. Unfortunately for

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Oct 26, 2003, at 8:40 PM, Rosalind Nelson wrote: Neal Krasnoff wrote: That is why an officer, when faced with an apparent EDP who is attacking the officer with a knife - will react as his training has taught him: ...sight alignment, trigger control, center mass. The officers might benefit

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Michelle Gross
At 09:02 PM 10/26/03 -0600, Neal Krasnoff wrote: Don't change the subject. Address the statement of fact as written. Neal Krasnoff Loring Park I'd be delighted. In the Barbara Schneider case, she was shot to death over having her radio too loudly. Her neighbors and building manager knew very

RE: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-24 Thread ken bradley
I have been very vocal regarding Minneapolis police behavior in the past, specifically excessiveforce by our police (police brutality). I have to agree with Jim Bernstein on this issue. Officer Haaf brutal murderwas a horriblecrime andhas no prior connection to policebrutality in this city.

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Joncgord
In a message dated 10/22/03 11:09:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CYAPB lists Martha Donald as a life 'stolen' by law enforcement. Could Ms. Gross post that list here for us? Stolen is an odd word. Jon Gorder Loring Park

re: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Tamir Nolley
In a message dated 10/22/03 11:09:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CYAPB lists Martha Donald as a life 'stolen' by law enforcement. To which Jon Gorder replied: Could Ms. Gross post that list here for us? Stolen is an odd word. TN I've always thought of Melissa

re: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Barbara Lickness
Tamir writes: This created a climate where those who had mental problems, (already unstable enough) became terrified of law enforcement and the case could be made, that this led Martha Donald to arm herself and thus led to the tragic death of both of these women. I say: I have posted about this

RE: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Jim Bernstein
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tamir Nolley Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: [mpls] Police Brutality In a message dated 10/22/03 11:09:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CYAPB lists

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality Complaints, tipping

2003-10-23 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 09:27 AM, Michelle Gross wrote: Actually, the Minneapolis Police Department is considered by other police departments to be one of the most brutal and one of the most poorly run police departments in the country. I base this on numerous discussions with

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-22 Thread Joncgord
In a message dated 10/22/03 8:36:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When people consider cop-killers victims of police brutality (i.e. Martha Donald) Could you provide quotes or other evidence that supports that statement? Thanks. Jon Gorder

RE: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-22 Thread David Brauer
In a message dated 10/22/03 8:36:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When people consider cop-killers victims of police brutality (i.e. Martha Donald)   Could you provide quotes or other evidence that supports that statement? Thanks.         Jon

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-22 Thread Anne McCandless
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality In a message dated 10/22/03 8:36:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When people consider cop-killers victims of police brutality (i.e. Martha