Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Алексей Логинов
In Linux when rpm package updates or system updates, libraries (which is in used) modifies - it's usual practic. Now, function "copyfile" don't work, is no guarantee that "copyfile" works under all circumstances, and I proved it.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 09:26:52 Алексей Логинов wrote: > In Linux when rpm package updates or system updates, libraries (which > is in used) modifies - it's usual practic. Now, function "copyfile" > don't work, is no guarantee that "copyfile" works under all > circumstances, and I proved it. > I

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
I don't think they change libraries of a *running* process *by* the *running* process. = It works both in LINUX & Win-32 (in win-32 - via the trick with renaming files). For instance, without this feature it would be impossible ( w/o inserting auto-run keys into registry & rebootin

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 10:04:25 Ivanko B wrote: > I don't think they change libraries of a *running* process *by* the > *running* process. > = > It works both in LINUX & Win-32 (in win-32 - via the trick with > renaming files). For instance, without this feature it would be > impo

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] some problems with current git

2012-08-13 Thread Алексей Логинов
> No, loading an incompatible language module is an error which must terminate the program. Not always the program terminates in fact. > Can you give exact steps If you don't see bug, then you won't see it, because it's always. I'm not sure that problem is in driver, because I did not see this bug

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] some problems with current git

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 10:49:13 Алексей Логинов wrote: > > No, loading an incompatible language module is an error which must > > terminate > > the program. > Not always the program terminates in fact. > > > Can you give exact steps > > If you don't see bug, then you won't see it, because it's al

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Алексей Логинов
Why no updates? New rpm package is updater. I'll include in any case my patch in rpm package without upstream, because without this patch we breaks updater and don't allow to change libraries which is in use. I wrote, that without patch copy of library is damaged, broken and have size 0b or big siz

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 11:01:53 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Why no updates? New rpm package is updater. > I'll include in any case my patch in rpm package without upstream, > because without this patch we breaks updater and don't allow to change > libraries which is in use. > I wrote, that without p

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] some problems with current git

2012-08-13 Thread Алексей Логинов
Problem with icon and with grid text is in 2.8.2 also. KDE 4.8.2, Kwin, 32bit. All settings in distributive by default. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Алексей Логинов
I use it, and, of cause, no problem if to use 'After make'. But I must think about problem in CopyFile also, I'm sure that this problem may be not only in this fragment of code and can occur anywhere else. -- Live Security

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] cross compiling

2012-08-13 Thread Sieghard
Hallo Martin, Du schriebst am Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:09:56 +0200: > > There seems a slight difficulty to build up on the issue currently. ;-> > > :-) Why? (Why are you smiling? (grinning?) It might hit you, the 32/64 bit issue.) -- (Weitergabe von Adressdaten, Telefonnummern u.ä. ohne Zustimmu

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] some problems with current git

2012-08-13 Thread Sieghard
Hallo Martin, Du schriebst am Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:05:24 +0200: > On Sunday 12 August 2012 10:56:36 Алексей Логинов wrote: > > * > > Does it better to add code try ... expect and to catch EReadError in > > functions loadlangunit? > > No, loading an incompatible language module is an error which m

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Sieghard
Hallo Алексей, Du schriebst am Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:20:47 +0400: > think about problem in CopyFile also, I'm sure that this problem may > be not only in this fragment of code and can occur anywhere else. I'm sure you deeply misunderstand the purpose of the _copy_file function - it is meant to _co

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] cross compiling

2012-08-13 Thread Patrick Goupell
On 08/12/2012 03:30 PM, Sieghard wrote: > Ahhh - _that_ could be complicating things some - that's the 64 bit > compiler. I'm still using the 32 bit one, because the target machines are > all 32 bit only (and because I was too lazy yet to change my system, but > that's a moot point if you develop

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Алексей Логинов
In this context file must be deleted and after deleting must be copying. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT manage

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Sieghard
Hallo Martin, Du schriebst am Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:13:08 +0200: > On Monday 13 August 2012 11:01:53 Алексей Логинов wrote: > > Why no updates? New rpm package is updater. > > I'll include in any case my patch in rpm package without upstream, > > because without this patch we breaks updater and don

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] cross compiling

2012-08-13 Thread Sieghard
Hallo Patrick, Du schriebst am Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:43:18 -0400: > For now I will compile the 64 bit on my 64 bit squeeze system. Ok. > The 32 bit will be conpiled on a 32 bit squeeze virtual machine. > > The windows 32 bit will be built in a 32 bit windows xp virtual machine. These two could

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Алексей Логинов
>And, BTW, the latest IDE is very unstable. The editor works ok, and it >seems to do compilation right, too. But testing a program is a pain - after >a couple program starts, especially when breakpointas are set or perhaps >even more so when changed, the IDE becomes unresponsive, at least invokes >

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
_You_ want to replace a file that's in use by some program, even by _that very programm itself_, which is an inherently dangerous operation, because of very many possibilities for loss of data, inconsistency, inoperability. = No so much if finalized by (Rename/Move)* command - which d

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
But there's some other issue mentioned here: There seem to be some serious problems with the file handling mechaism in your i18n utility. Definitely there're should be a lot of bugs here - since MSEi18n has been barely used up to now :) ---

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
But testing a program is a pain - after a couple program starts, especially when breakpointas are set or perhaps even more so when changed, the IDE becomes unresponsive, at least invokes the program only after a huge delay, if at all (often not), and has to be terminated and restarted to let me

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
If any >appreciable load from other processes is present (and I have a 4 core >processor wit 4 GB of memory now! ), thsi sluggishness is much increased >and there are even "GDB timeout" occurrances. I confirm. = Hmm...may be caused by a kind of recursion - then Martin definitely need

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Sieghard
Hallo Ivanko, Du schriebst am Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:11:45 +0500: > But testing a program is a pain - after > a couple program starts, especially when breakpointas are set or perhaps ... > > For me, these are GDB & antiviral tool & DDOS from a malwared machine > issues in most cases. T

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Sieghard
Hallo Ivanko, Du schriebst am Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:44:43 +0500: > _You_ want to replace a file that's in use by some program, even by _that > very programm itself_, which is an inherently dangerous operation, > because of very many possibilities for loss of data, inconsistency, > inoperability. =

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
But I'm working under Linux, and even without a constantly open internet connection = Then another issues me encountered earlier - discontinuing fixing bugs for obsoleting graphic chips by vendors (free drivers are usually bad [or not properly tested for double buffering, XRendering,.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
That's LINUX GUI is very sensitive to combined quality of VGAcard & its drivers. Also kernel has to be properly configured & build - with activated DRI & MTRR, proper DMA, deactivated PAT [very-very evil feature],... Also, there can be [on systems with non-locked cooler RPMs - PWM, SmartFan,..] is

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
That's LINUX GUI is very sensitive to combined quality of VGAcard & its drivers === Easily isolated by switching to framebuffer console&X-driver&X-mode. Me mean exactly KERNEL MODE framebuffer activated for X by "Option UseFBDev true" in X-config- VESAFB, IntelDRIFB, SISFB,.. These ed

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Sieghard
Hallo Ivanko, Du schriebst am Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:43:02 +0500: > But I'm working under Linux, and even without a > constantly open internet connection > = > Then another issues me encountered earlier - discontinuing fixing bugs > for obsoleting graphic chips by vendors (free drivers

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] i18n batch mode extension

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 18:00:10 Sieghard wrote: > > If anyone might deem this useful, they can have it - there's no copyright > going with it (of course there still is some right left - Germany doesn't > allow the ownership to be given away, but there won't be any further > restrictions of its u

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 17:33:39 Sieghard wrote: [bugs] Can you please report the bugs one for one with steps how to reproduce in order they can be fixed? Thanks, Martin -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive l

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 18:22:29 Алексей Логинов wrote: > >And, BTW, the latest IDE is very unstable. The editor works ok, and it > >seems to do compilation right, too. But testing a program is a pain - > > after a couple program starts, especially when breakpointas are set or > > perhaps even mor

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] some problems with current git

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 11:13:56 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Problem with icon and with grid text is in 2.8.2 also. > KDE 4.8.2, Kwin, 32bit. All settings in distributive by default. > Icons work for me on KDE4, OpenSUSE 12.1 32 bit, see attachment. I can not reproduce the empty grid rows. MSEi18n a

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 18:22:29 Алексей Логинов wrote: > >And, BTW, the latest IDE is very unstable. The editor works ok, and it > >seems to do compilation right, too. But testing a program is a pain - > > after a couple program starts, especially when breakpointas are set or > > perhaps even mor

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 13 August 2012 17:33:39 Sieghard wrote: [...] > Or did you mean to save _all_ files under the new name (as is attempted > with "new")? If so, this doesn't work out that way. I've included a patch > against that in the modified version also. > "Save as" can be used to store the *.trp and

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Tuesday 14 August 2012 08:01:47 Martin Schreiber wrote: > > > (And another BTW I just stumbled over: In the source editor, when the > > caret hit the last line and you try to go still further down, the editor > > leaves the text window and activates the line/column display. Looks weird > > and w