Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-23 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Brian Schweitzer wrote: I did them all by hand however, not via bot - the batch indication in the notes was simply an indication of the edit processing batch, using the tool I wrote a long time back for batch edit submissions. The edits themselves, however, were all manually identified. So

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-23 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Lauri Watts wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Leiv Hellebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not that big a stretch to extend this to bypass the orchestra altogether and write something concerto-like in structure for a single instrument such as the piano. (But I'm out of my wits here as to

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-23 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Brian Schweitzer wrote: (For the Work-view of the CSGS pages, Lauri has a very good point in that we should look to what the composer wanted himself. For KV 447, I guess this is simply Konzert in Es . See http://dme.mozarteum.at/DME/nma/scan.php?vsep=141l=2p1=29#29) I would suggest that

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-23 Thread symphonick
2008/2/23, Lauri Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Leiv Hellebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not that big a stretch to extend this to bypass the orchestra altogether and write something concerto-like in structure for a single instrument such as the piano. (But I'm

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-23 Thread Chris B
On 23/02/2008, Brian Schweitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would suggest that the NMA (and other such resources) be taken as it is, rather than what some might want it to be. It is a urText, but the titles are not. The titles, if you actually look at pictures of the original scores

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-22 Thread Andrew Conkling
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Aaron Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20-Feb-08, at 10:35 PM, Andrew Conkling wrote: http://musicbrainz.org/album/a3523d3e- b172-4164-8406-5dda5eea7a28.html (tracks 5-8) Is this really a track-level detail? I know there are (more or less) two camps on

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-22 Thread Andrew Conkling
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Andrew Conkling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://musicbrainz.org/album/3883f2fd-44b1-4174-82a0-c1fb8dc1c8db.html(tracks 1-2) Tracks 1 and 2 are performed together, but the track list doesn't show that. Does it turn out that they're from different works of Mozart's?

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-22 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Andrew Conkling wrote: At this point, I don't even care about any sort of CTTS; I'd really just like to see some consistency (at least across a release!). I understand that, and I don't think it's too much to ask :) But the EditNotes for these changes say they were done as batch edits, so I

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-22 Thread Andrew Conkling
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Leiv Hellebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Cooper wrote: Pardon my late response, but I believe that by definition concertos feature an orchestra, however I wouldn't mind seeing Concerto for Piano and Orchestra.

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-22 Thread Aaron Cooper
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Leiv Hellebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Cooper wrote: Pardon my late response, but I believe that by definition concertos feature an orchestra, however I wouldn't mind seeing Concerto for Piano and Orchestra.

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-22 Thread symphonick
2008/2/22, Aaron Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Leiv Hellebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Cooper wrote: Pardon my late response, but I believe that by definition concertos feature an orchestra, however I wouldn't mind seeing Concerto for Piano and

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-22 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Andrew Conkling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://musicbrainz.org/album/3883f2fd-44b1-4174-82a0-c1fb8dc1c8db.html(tracks 1-2) Tracks 1 and 2 are performed together, but the track list doesn't show that. Does it turn out that they're from different works

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-22 Thread Brian Schweitzer
Andrew Conkling wrote: At this point, I don't even care about any sort of CTTS; I'd really just like to see some consistency (at least across a release!). I understand that, and I don't think it's too much to ask :) But the EditNotes for these changes say they were done as batch

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-22 Thread Brian Schweitzer
Aaron's statement still seems fine. Maybe we could refine it a bit: By /implication/, concertos feature an orchestra, unless otherwise stated. We don't need an MB-glossary for classical music terms, I think. Let's leave that to others. (For one, we're music enthusiasts, not

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-20 Thread Aaron Cooper
On 20-Feb-08, at 10:35 PM, Andrew Conkling wrote: So I started poking around to see how all these CSGS edits would impact my collection and found a lot that seem to be worse than they were before. Some examples (limited to Mozart's Ĺ“uvre):

Re: [mb-style] The CSGS whirlwind

2008-02-20 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Andrew Conkling wrote: So I started poking around to see how all these CSGS edits would impact my collection and found a lot that seem to be worse than they were before. Personally, I've done just a few changes, and so far only on my stuff, to return things back to how they were (or