Re: option description - always give default value

2002-08-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 19:15 31 Jul 2002, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 18:26:40 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: | * Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-31 15:14]: |the default value should *always* be documented. | What do you mean by documented? | the manual to muttrc

pgp_create_traditional or not?

2002-08-02 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Morning. I just wanted to ask this, because it's been on my mind for quite a bit of time already. So, as Mutt's manual say, the old-style PGP message format is _strongly deprecated_. I shouldn't use it, then? But is the new-style PGP message format somehow unreadable for some mail clients, like

Re: option description - default and dependencies

2002-08-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 02:43:15 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: not quite right - sorry. so lete me repeat: OK, perhaps I haven't understood. i want the manual to list all possibilities of default values and their dependencies to configure options - I still don't understand. What do you mean by

Re: option description - always give default value

2002-08-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 16:39:57 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 19:15 31 Jul 2002, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 18:26:40 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: | * Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-31 15:14]: |the default value should *always* be

Re: most commonly used regex lib for awk/frep/mutt/sed?

2002-08-02 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 01:47:37PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: Is this too ambitious a wish? unfortunately, yes. Ricardo SIGNES is a man of vision, I think. If it is practical to link in a preferred regex suite, as described in his post on this thread, to allow the ERE-proficient amongst

Re: pgp_create_traditional or not?

2002-08-02 Thread Will Yardley
Jussi Ekholm wrote: I just wanted to ask this, because it's been on my mind for quite a bit of time already. So, as Mutt's manual say, the old-style PGP message format is _strongly deprecated_. I shouldn't use it, then? But is the new-style PGP message format somehow unreadable for some

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-02 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Patrik Modesto [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 12:09 +0200]: Maybe this is stupid question but I searched man-page to muttrc and find nothing about it. So, I need to forward message that contains some attachments. But I need to edit/update the text part of the forwarded message. What I've

Re: most commonly used regex lib for awk/frep/mutt/sed?

2002-08-02 Thread Roman Neuhauser
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:55:42 +1000 From: Erik Christiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: most commonly used regex lib for awk/frep/mutt/sed? On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 01:47:37PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: Is this too ambitious a wish? unfortunately, yes.

Re: Scoring questions

2002-08-02 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Lars Hecking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I Cc'd this message to mutt-users, too - I think this belongs there instead of mutt-dev] I think the documentation about scoring is quite lacking. I could somewhat agree; I've never been able to fully understand how mails could be sorted first by threads

Re: mutt + pcre

2002-08-02 Thread Sven Guckes
* Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 11:35]: if mutt could be ./configure'd --with-pcre (nondefault, of course), there'd be virtually no problems with confusion between regexps found in various published .muttrc's and the syntax mutt linked with pcre actually expected. assuming

Re: pgp_create_traditional or not?

2002-08-02 Thread Jussi Ekholm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jussi Ekholm wrote: [$pgp_create_traditional] well - strongly deprecated, perhaps, but since there are only a few MUAs which have good PGP/MIME support (none of them very commonly used in most circles) it's

Re: pgp_create_traditional or not?

2002-08-02 Thread Joakim Andersson
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 03:07:08PM +0300, Jussi Ekholm wrote: Do you have any idea why clearsigning an email with signature brakes the signature delimiter? It always changes from -- to - -- and that's not fun at all. That is the way it's supposed to be, it's being escaped. If you verify the

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-02 Thread Gregory Seidman
Patrik Modesto sez: } Hi! } Maybe this is stupid question but I searched man-page to muttrc and find } nothing about it. So, I need to forward message that contains some } attachments. But I need to edit/update the text part of the forwarded } message. What I've found is forward only text part or

Weird characters

2002-08-02 Thread Ken Weingold
I received on a list an email from someone using Outlook Express 6 and it came out as all '?'s. Anyone know why this would be? I didn't see any information at all about the ercoding or what-not. Thanks. -Ken

Re: mutt + pcre

2002-08-02 Thread Calum Selkirk
* Sven Guckes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [2002-08-02 13:57 +0200]: * Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 11:35]: if mutt could be ./configure'd --with-pcre (nondefault, of course), there'd be virtually no problems with confusion between regexps found in various published .muttrc's and

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-02 Thread Sven Guckes
* Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 12:52]: To forward a message with attachments as you would naturally want to you need to go to the attachments view of the message, tag everything you want to forward (including the body if you want to forward that), and then tag-forward (i.e.

Re: Weird characters - from OE?

2002-08-02 Thread Sven Guckes
* Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 13:04]: I received on a list an email from someone using Outlook Express 6 and it came out as all '?'s. Anyone know why this would be? Outlook Express? Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Outcast/Outage Excess | Doubtlook Distress |

Re: Weird characters - from OE?

2002-08-02 Thread Ken Weingold
On Fri, Aug 2, 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: * Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 13:04]: I received on a list an email from someone using Outlook Express 6 and it came out as all '?'s. Anyone know why this would be? Outlook Express? Yes. Turns out it is from Korea, and when I

Re: pgp_create_traditional or not?

2002-08-02 Thread Jussi Ekholm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joakim Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 03:07:08PM +0300, Jussi Ekholm wrote: Do you have any idea why clearsigning an email with signature brakes the signature delimiter? It always changes from -- to - -- and that's

Re: mutt + pcre

2002-08-02 Thread Roman Neuhauser
From: Calum Selkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:03:20 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mutt + pcre i somehow missed the Sven's message, so i'm replying to this one * Sven Guckes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [2002-08-02 13:57 +0200]: * Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: pgp_create_traditional or not?

2002-08-02 Thread David T-G
Jussi -- ...and then Jussi Ekholm said... % % Morning. Hiya! The short form: 1) mutt 1.4 and earlier required a patch (Aaron(?) wrote an early one and then Dale wrote the one that replaced it) to tweak $pgp_create_traditional so that it would twist and bend to suit Outhouse, but 1.5 and up

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-02 Thread Gregory Seidman
Sven Guckes sez: } * Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 12:52]: } To forward a message with attachments as you would naturally } want to you need to go to the attachments view of the message, } tag everything you want to forward (including the body if you } want to forward that),

Re: option description - always give default value

2002-08-02 Thread Chris Palmer
Vincent Lefevre writes: The installed manual should be preprocessed during the build to have the correct defaults. But how can it have the correct defaults since there is only one manual for several binaries? What several binaries? My system has only one /usr/local/bin/mutt. Cameron

Re: mutt + pcre

2002-08-02 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.08.02, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Calum Selkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if mutt could be ./configure'd --with-pcre (nondefault, of course), there'd be virtually no problems with confusion between regexps found in various published .muttrc's and the syntax mutt linked with

Re: Scoring questions

2002-08-02 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.08.02, in 20020802115532.GC12347@erpland, * Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lars Hecking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I Cc'd this message to mutt-users, too - I think this belongs there instead of mutt-dev] Maybe, but it's also a request for someone to further develop the

Re: option description - always give default value

2002-08-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:14:27 -0700, Chris Palmer wrote: What several binaries? My system has only one /usr/local/bin/mutt. There are systems with multiple binaries. Please read the thread. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn

Re: option description - always give default value

2002-08-02 Thread Chris Palmer
Vincent Lefevre writes: There are systems with multiple binaries. It's up to the sysadmin to keep the man pages in the same directory prefix as the binaries. /usr/foo/man/man1 should correspond to /usr/foo/bin, et c. -- Chris music is what numbers feel like San Francisco, CA

Re: option description - always give default value

2002-08-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 10:01:18 -0700, Chris Palmer wrote: Vincent Lefevre writes: There are systems with multiple binaries. It's up to the sysadmin to keep the man pages in the same directory prefix as the binaries. /usr/foo/man/man1 should correspond to /usr/foo/bin, et c. We agreed

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-02 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.08.02, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 12:52]: To forward a message with attachments as you would naturally want to you need to go to the attachments view of the message, tag everything you want to

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-02 Thread David Rock
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 08:51:52AM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: This one of the less intuitive parts of mutt. To forward a message with attachments as you would naturally want to you need to go to the attachments view of the message, tag eveerything you want to forward (including the body

Re: Weird characters - from OE?

2002-08-02 Thread Sven Guckes
* Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 13:15]: On Fri, Aug 2, 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: * Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 13:04]: I received on a list an email from someone using Outlook Express 6 and it came out as all '?'s. Anyone know why this would be? Outlook

Re: Weird characters - from OE?

2002-08-02 Thread Ken Weingold
On Fri, Aug 2, 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: Yes. Turns out it is from Korea, and when I bounced it to Outlook at work it came out as text. you found a Korean garbage to text converter! congratulations!! finally - some use for OE! :-) Gee, thanks, Sven. You've been a huge help. ;-) -Ken

Re: Weird characters - from OE?

2002-08-02 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:22 PM +0200 2002/08/02, Sven Guckes wrote: you found a Korean garbage to text converter! congratulations!! finally - some use for OE! :-) I think it started out life as a Korean text to garbage converter. So it makes sense that only OE would be able to convert the

Re: OE^{2k} = OE ?

2002-08-02 Thread Sven Guckes
* Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 21:43]: At 10:22 PM +0200 2002/08/02, Sven Guckes wrote: you found a Korean garbage to text converter! congratulations!! finally - some use for OE! :-) I think it started out life as a Korean text to garbage converter. So it makes sense that

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-02 Thread Gregory Seidman
David Champion sez: } * On 2002.08.02, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], } * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } * Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 12:52]: } To forward a message with attachments as you would naturally } want to you need to go to the attachments view of the message,

Re: Weird characters - from OE?

2002-08-02 Thread Ken Weingold
On Fri, Aug 2, 2002, Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:22 PM +0200 2002/08/02, Sven Guckes wrote: you found a Korean garbage to text converter! congratulations!! finally - some use for OE! :-) I think it started out life as a Korean text to garbage converter. So it makes sense that

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-02 Thread David T-G
Greg, et al -- ...and then Gregory Seidman said... % ... % } * Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-02 12:52]: % } To forward a message with attachments as you would naturally Well, as *you* would want, anyway... ... % Not bad, but mime_forward does the wrong thing also. It's great