Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Mel
Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice *at the time of message compose* to an address different from the message's "From:" address? How is it done? For starters, I'd probably want to: unset envelope_from and maybe comment-out this in my .muttrc: my_hdr From: Mel <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Sven Guckes
* Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 08:28]: > Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice > *at the time of message compose* to an address > different from the message's "From:" address? you can only set or unset the envelope_from variable - but not set what goes into the header. this is M

Re: Weird characters - from OE? - guesswork

2002-08-03 Thread Sven Guckes
* Ken Weingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 03:32]: > Mozilla mail opens it fine. Apple Mail > (formerly NeXTSTEP Mail I believe) opens it fine. so? > My guess is that it's encoded, but I'm not sure how. > Is there Base64-encoded text? you are asking *us*? hey - *you* got that message! loo

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-03 Thread Sven Guckes
* Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 02:32]: > It's great if you want to forward an entire message (which, > occasionally, I do), but it doesn't serve the more common case of > wanting to forward everything in the message as parts of your > message and adding a comment to the forwarde

Re: Scoring questions

2002-08-03 Thread Jussi Ekholm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Champion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jussi Ekholm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [I Cc'd this message to mutt-users, too - I think this belongs there >> instead of mutt-dev] > > Maybe, but it's also a request for someone to further develop the

Re: forwarding with attachments but...

2002-08-03 Thread David T-G
Sven -- ...and then Sven Guckes said... % % * Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 02:32]: ... % > wanting to forward everything in the message as parts of your % > message and adding a comment to the forwarded message body. % % you want to bounce a message - but comment also? Um, n

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 04:28 -0400]: > Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice *at the time of > message compose* to an address different from the message's > "From:" address? Yes, of course! > How is it done? For starters, I'd probably want to: unset envelope_from then

Hiding my domain name behind my ISPs one

2002-08-03 Thread Peter Andrijeczko
I have just joined the mailing list having installed Mutt with Fetchmail and Procmail and I'm getting about 95% of the functionality I want having played with the configuration for a few days. I'm not sure if this problem I have is more MTA stuff but hopefully somebody can point me in the righ

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Melvin Q Watchpocket
On Sat 08/03/02 at 11:50 AM +0200, Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 08:28]: > > Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice > > *at the time of message compose* to an address > > different from the message's "From:" address? >

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Michael Tatge
Melvin Q Watchpocket ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > Then we can't *really* say that mutt gives > us "total control over headers", can we? > Is there *any* Mail User Agent that can do this from > within the MUA itself, without having to invoke > Sendmail to do it (if even from the command-line)?

Re: Hiding my domain name behind my ISPs one

2002-08-03 Thread Michael Tatge
Peter Andrijeczko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > I have just joined the mailing list Welcome. :) > My home Linux network is on a non-Internet valid domain > "penguins.home" and the hostname of the machine with Mutt is "gentoo". > Although I (obviously) populate the "From:" address with my prope

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Melvin Q Watchpocket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 08:20 -0400]: > On Sat 08/03/02 at 12:50 PM +0200, > Nicolas Rachinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > * Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 04:28 -0400]: > > > Can mutt set the envelope to the user's choice *at > > > the time of

Re: manual fits binary - silly idea!

2002-08-03 Thread Sven Guckes
* Vincent Lefevre writes: > There are systems with multiple binaries. * Chris Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-02 17:17]: > It's up to the sysadmin to keep the man pages in the > same directory prefix as the binaries. /usr/foo/man/man1 > should correspond to /usr/foo/bin, et c. *sigh* Chris

Re: pgp_create_traditional or not?

2002-08-03 Thread Jussi Ekholm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...and then Jussi Ekholm said... >> Morning. > > Hiya! Hello, David! :-) > 1) mutt 1.4 and earlier required a patch (Aaron(?) wrote an early > one and then Dale wrote the one that replaced it) to tweak > $pgp_

Set envelope: realy shouldn't be touched?

2002-08-03 Thread Melvin Q Watchpocket
On Sat 08/03/02 at 03:02 PM +0200, Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [that I wrote:] > > Then we can't really say that mutt gives us > > "total control over headers", can we? > > no. there are some which should not be touched. > and that's good. In mutt? But why? This sounds like you wa

Re: Set envelope: realy shouldn't be touched?

2002-08-03 Thread Sven Guckes
* Melvin Q Watchpocket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 15:33]: > Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Then we can't really say that mutt gives us > > > "total control over headers", can we? > > no. there are some which should not be touched. > > and that's good. > In mutt? But why? This

Re: Set envelope: realy shouldn't be touched?

2002-08-03 Thread Michael Tatge
Melvin Q Watchpocket ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > I mean, why not have the envelope be settable as > one of the headers visible with edit_headers set? Why should it? You are able to tweak the envelope by setting mutt's $sendmail variable. What else do you want? This would be a feature nobody e

Re: mutt + pcre

2002-08-03 Thread Calum Selkirk
* David Champion [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [2002-08-02 11:18 -0500]: > * "Calum Selkirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > if mutt could be ./configure'd --with-pcre (nondefault, of > > > > course), there'd be virtually no problems with confusion between > > > > regexps found in various published .m

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:50 AM +0200 2002/08/03, Sven Guckes wrote: > you can only set or unset the envelope_from variable - > but not set what goes into the header. this is MTA stuff. The MTA doesn't touch the headers (with the exception of adding suitable "Received:" headers). So far as the MTA is c

Re: pgp_create_traditional or not?

2002-08-03 Thread Alain Bench
Hello Jussi, On Saturday, August 3, 2002 at 4:43:48 PM +0300, Jussi Ekholm wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed > > I send an email, which is traditionally signed, from Mutt 1.5.1i to a > person who uses Mutt 1.4i. In this one particular case, scandinavian > cha

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Melvin Q Watchpocket
On Sat 08/03/02 at 09:30 PM +0200, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:50 AM +0200 2002/08/03, Sven Guckes wrote: >> you can only set or unset the envelope_from variable - >> but not set what goes into the header. this is MTA stuff. > > The MTA doesn't touch the headers (with the exc

Re: Hiding my domain name behind my ISPs one

2002-08-03 Thread Patrick
* Peter Andrijeczko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-03-02 17:25]: > I have just joined the mailing list having installed Mutt with > Fetchmail and Procmail and I'm getting about 95% of the functionality > I want having played with the configuration for a few days. > > I'm not sure if this problem I have

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Melvin Q Watchpocket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-03 18:45 -0400]: > On Sat 08/03/02 at 09:30 PM +0200, > But if you use the MTA (sendmail in this case, and in many cases) > to create an envelope header that's gonna be different from a > message's "From:" header, (by doing 'sendmail -f'), then i

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:45 PM -0400 2002/08/03, Melvin Q Watchpocket wrote: > But if you use the MTA (sendmail in this case, and in many cases) > to create an envelope header that's gonna be different from a > message's "From:" header, (by doing 'sendmail -f'), then it (the > MTA) has to at least touch the enve

Re: Can mutt set envelope at message-compose-time?

2002-08-03 Thread Albert Lunde
On Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 06:45:06PM -0400, Melvin Q Watchpocket wrote: > But if you use the MTA (sendmail in this case, and in many cases) > to create an envelope header that's gonna be different from a > message's "From:" header, (by doing 'sendmail -f'), then it (the > MTA) has to at least touch

Re: option description - always give default value

2002-08-03 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 09:14 02 Aug 2002, Chris Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Vincent Lefevre writes: | > > The installed manual should be preprocessed during the build to have | > > the correct defaults. | > But how can it have the correct defaults since there is only one | > manual for several binaries? Only

Re: manual fits binary - silly idea!

2002-08-03 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 15:38 03 Aug 2002, Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | * Vincent Lefevre writes: | > There are systems with multiple binaries. | | * Chris Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-02 17:17]: | > It's up to the sysadmin to keep the man pages in the | > same directory prefix as the binaries. /us

Automatic save-hooks?

2002-08-03 Thread Chris Stork
Problem: I handed out loads of addresses of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to automatically save emails to this address to =SENDERSPECIFIC, where "automatically" means that I don't want to put a save-hook line into my muttrc file. I thought about using message-hook to somehow call save-hoo

Re: Automatic save-hooks? -> procmail

2002-08-03 Thread Sven Guckes
* Chris Stork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-04 01:46]: > Problem: I handed out loads of addresses of the form > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to automatically save > emails to this address to =SENDERSPECIFIC, where "automatically" means > that I don't want to put a save-hook line into my muttrc file

Re: option description - always give default value

2002-08-03 Thread Sven Guckes
* Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-04 01:02]: > On my systems I frequently have several mutts installed. > Each has its own manual page because each has its own install tree. > The /usr/local/bin/mutt is a symlink to the appropriate mutt > binary in its respective tree, and so is the m

Re: manual fits binary - silly idea!

2002-08-03 Thread Sven Guckes
* Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-04 01:16]: > Users wanting a specific mutt generally hack their PATH > and MANPATH to put that mutt's bin/man dirs at the front. and how do you maintain a huge system for users who are not capable of adjusting the shell path? do you take the time to

Re: Automatic save-hooks? -> procmail

2002-08-03 Thread Chris Stork
On Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 04:11:49AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Chris Stork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-04 01:46]: > > Problem: I handed out loads of addresses of the form > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to automatically save > > emails to this address to =SENDERSPECIFIC, where "automatically"

Re: option description - always give default value

2002-08-03 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 04:22 04 Aug 2002, Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | let's see - i need a different shell setup for each | of my mutt binaries, No, JUST ONE that peers at $0. If you're doing the shell wrapper thing. Just make links. | and for each of the systems. | now, if i follow this for every prog

Re: manual fits binary - silly idea!

2002-08-03 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 04:28 04 Aug 2002, Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | * Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-04 01:16]: | > Users wanting a specific mutt generally hack their PATH | > and MANPATH to put that mutt's bin/man dirs at the front. | | and how do you maintain a huge system for users |

Re: Automatic save-hooks? -> procmail

2002-08-03 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Chris Stork spake thus: > (I use procmail already to filter my mail. But the emails I'm talking > about arrive rarely and I could miss them if they were pr