Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-30 Thread Jussi Ekholm
John Buttery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Sorry, that it took quite a while for me to reply -- I'm always slow on these things...) > Well, here's my two cents for you to add to the stuff you're reading > up on. Thank you very much, I appreciate it. :-) > I encrypt every message I can (which i

Re: key status (was "Re: PGP signing (newbie)")

2002-03-26 Thread David T-G
Jussi -- ...and then Jussi Ekholm said... % % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % % > ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % >> If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter % >> would be a big no-no. The gpg and pgp documention goes into these subjects ... % % On

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-26 Thread Dave Smith
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:17:10PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > One more question popped in my mind; when GnuPG automagicly fetches > a key of some person and verifies it, it goes to the key list (I mean, > that I can check it out with 'gpg --list-keys'). Does this mean, that > it is signed?

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-26 Thread Jussi Ekholm
David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...and then Shawn McMahon said... >> If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter >> would be a big no-no. The gpg and pgp documention goes into these subjects >> in depth, IIRC. > > We even had that whole discussion here a wh

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:31:36PM -0700: > > Well, it sounds an awful lot like "Jessy" to me, which is a decidedly > female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;) Jesse Owens. Jesse Ventura. Insist on the same spelling? Ok. Jessy

Re: picking on Rob (was "Re: PGP signing (newbie)")

2002-03-25 Thread David T-G
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! David T-G spake thus: % > % Well, it sounds an awful lot like "Jessy" to me, which is a decidedly % > % female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;) % > % > You've never heard of Jesse Ventura or Jesse James, just for starters? % >

Re: picking on Rob (was "Re: PGP signing (newbie)")

2002-03-25 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--NklN7DEeGtkPCoo3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: > % Well, it sounds an awful lot like "Jessy" to me, which is a decidedly > % female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named J

Re: OT: canada sucks. [was Re: PGP signing (newbie)]

2002-03-25 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! tim lupfer spake thus: > > Well, it sounds an awful lot like "Jessy" to me, which is a > > decidedly female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named > > Jessy ;) > > but does canada _really_ count? nah. go play with an elk :P Oh, _that_'s mature... -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROT

Re: picking on Rob (was "Re: PGP signing (newbie)")

2002-03-25 Thread David T-G
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Well, it sounds an awful lot like "Jessy" to me, which is a decidedly % female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;) You've never heard of Jesse Ventura or Jesse James, just for starters? Sure, they're both American, but one is quite col

OT: canada sucks. [was Re: PGP signing (newbie)]

2002-03-25 Thread tim lupfer
* thus spaketh Rob 'Feztaa' Park (Mar 25 at 12:31PM): >> I don't know that I can let you get away with that. Said in the >> correct accent - in fact, one of German, Switzerdutch, and most >> Scandinavian accents, Jussi sounds reasonably masculine to me. > Well, it sounds an awful lot like "Jessy

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-25 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--SNIs70sCzqvszXB4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! John Buttery spake thus: > Oh, and of course I also sign just to keep Rob from forging my email. > :) Rats! Foiled again! :) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EM

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-25 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--DiL7RhKs8rK9YGuF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Simon White spake thus: > 24-Mar-02 at 22:37, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot of t

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-25 Thread David T-G
Shawn, et al -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % ... % from me in lots of fora, all signed, then you may consider my identity % established enough for your purposes, and choose to local-sign my key, and ... % If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter % would b

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-25 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus: >> And to point out -- 'sed s/her/his/g'. ;-) > > You're a guy? Oooops! Sorry. > Your name just sounds so feminine. Hehe, no problem. :-) And I could take the lower line as a compliment, I guess. But yeah, this is

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-25 Thread John Buttery
* Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-24 21:09:42 +0200]: >Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus: >>> But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists? >> >> There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply >> hereti

[OT] Names (Was: Re: PGP signing (newbie))

2002-03-25 Thread Dave Smith
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 09:10:11AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In and English accent (particularly Canadian/American) it /may/ sound > feminine... but you should never assume that just because in your phonetics, a > name sounds feminine, that it is. Indeed, never assume at all that you can >

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-25 Thread Simon White
24-Mar-02 at 22:37, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot of that here, > don't we? ;) I don't know that I can let you get away with that. Said in the correct accent - in fact, one of German, Switzerdutch, and most Scandinavian acc

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus: > And to point out -- 'sed s/her/his/g'. ;-) You're a guy? Oooops! Sorry. Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus: > LOL Rob (I presume?)!=20 Yeah that was me ;) > Well yeah, I really am on the verge of should I or should I not. Next time, the

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And this demonstrates exactly why you ought to sign all of your > messages, ESPECIALLY if it's to a public list. Had Jussi been in the > habit of signing all her messages, people would have noticed that this > message wasn't signed, and immediately questi

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nah, on second thought I don't think I ever will. In fact, I can't stand > the thought of having to sign all my messages! I'm deleting gnupg as we > speak! > > Oh yeah, and I hate everybody on this list. You're all a bunch of > assholes! I'm going to uns

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:31:06PM +0200: >> Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people >> with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should've selected >> more appropriate place for testing it for the first

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--9ADF8FXzFeE7X4jE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: > > So long, suckers. >=20 > You're an evil bastard, Fezta. :-) ;D --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- What is a magic

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
> "Rob 'Feztaa' Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I guess? Yeah. I didn't cover anything like my message id's up, I didn't want to get too elaborate. I was just making a point that mail can be spoofed and signing your messages prevents this :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sometimes I wond

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:53:18PM -0700: > > So long, suckers. You're an evil bastard, Fezta. :-) msg26007/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-24 13:53:18 -0700]: > Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, I didn't say I'm not going to use it. I will, that's for sure. > > Nah, on second thought I don't think I ever will. In fact, I can't stand > the thought of having to sign all my

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I didn't say I'm not going to use it. I will, that's for sure. Nah, on second thought I don't think I ever will. In fact, I can't stand the thought of having to sign all my messages! I'm deleting gnupg as we speak! Oh yeah, and I hate everybody on

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:47:42PM +0100: > I take it from this that you are in fact not interested in a > discussion, but in a flame war. Have fun! I'm sorry, if you'll point out which of my statements was personally insulting to you, I'll be glad to clari

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-03-24 20:34]: >begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:26:53PM +0100: >> There are several things different between broadcasts and >> point-to-point connection, as you sure know. > >Yes. For instance, there are far more peopl

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:31:06PM +0200: > > Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people > with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should've selected > more appropriate place for testing it for the first time); or would > I ge

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:26:53PM +0100: > There are several things different between broadcasts and > point-to-point connection, as you sure know. Yes. For instance, there are far more people who would be impacted by a forgery. There are also far more p

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The same reasons for doing so in private mail apply to lists. > The same reasons for not doing so in lists apply to private mail. Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should'v

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Thorsten Haude
Moin, * Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-03-24 20:14]: >The same reasons for doing so in private mail apply to lists. > >The same reasons for not doing so in lists apply to private mail. There are several things different between broadcasts and point-to-point connection, as you sure know. T

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:09:42PM +0200: > > Ah well, I've decided not to use signed mails in mailing lists if > there isn't any reason for me to do it. What matters, is, that PGP > works with my Mutt - whole other thing is, if I use it... ;-) The same reas

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus: >> But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists? > > There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply > heretics. > > Oh, you _didn't_ want to start a flamewar? Oops... ;) LOL! We

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus: > But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists? There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply heretics. Oh, you _didn't_ want to start a flamewar? Oops... ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BOFH excuse #178: Short

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Nicolas Rachinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-24 13:01:00 +0200]: >> But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists? > > If you didn't want to start a flamewar, I'm fear, you asked the wrong > question ;-) Well, that wasn't my intenti

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-24 13:01:00 +0200]: > I'd just like to hear, why signing PGP for mails going to mailing lists > is not so wanted thing to do? And yes, I agree 100% - let's not start a > flamewar or anything. The whole thing is, that I'm a newbie to the whole > Pretty Go

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shawn McMahon wrote: >> If you object to my signatures, procmail is easily capable of routing >> all of my emails to /dev/null. > > the issue wasn't a personal accusation. you're welcome to sign (or not > sign) your emails as you wish. > > in any even

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:23:57AM +0100: > Let's not forget that your key is worthless unless signed by somebody > we know already. Not entirely worthless. For instance, if you receive lots of emails from me in lots of fora, all signed, then you may consi

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-03-24 00:59]: >begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:52:56AM +0200: >> ARGH! Of course I forgot to sign it. :-/ As I said, I am very, very >> sorry for all the inconvenience and waste of bandwith from my behalf. >> I hope I do

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:52:56AM +0200: > > ARGH! Of course I forgot to sign it. :-/ As I said, I am very, very > sorry for all the inconvenience and waste of bandwith from my behalf. > I hope I doesn't end up in everyone's killfile... trying to learn > so

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was just wondering if it looks ok now? At least the test message I sent > to myself gave a positive result... > > I am *very* sorry to post these "test messages" on a public, and high > traffic mailing list; my excuse is, that I'll do it just this onc

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 12:47:14AM +0100: > >If you object to my signatures, procmail is easily capable of routing all > >of my emails to /dev/null. > I don't use Procmail. What now? The Lord helps those who help themselves. msg25951/pgp0.pgp Descri

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Thorsten Haude
Moin, * Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-03-24 00:03]: >begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 02:32:41PM -0800: >> and hopefully this won't set off a long discussion (yet again), but many >> believe that it's generally silly (and unnecessary) to sign posts to a >> pub

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I suggest you make use of one of the many sample files to be found on the >> web. The links at mutt.org will take you to several, or a simple Google >> search will turn up dozens more. > > I will, thank you. A

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Will Yardley
Shawn McMahon wrote: > begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at > 02:32:41PM -0800: > > and hopefully this won't set off a long discussion (yet again), but > > many believe that it's generally silly (and unnecessary) to sign > > posts to a public mailing list most of the tim

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 02:32:41PM -0800: > > and hopefully this won't set off a long discussion (yet again), but many > believe that it's generally silly (and unnecessary) to sign posts to a > public mailing list most of the time. Many believe the Earth is

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Will Yardley
Shawn McMahon wrote: > > I suggest you make use of one of the many sample files to be found on > the web. The links at mutt.org will take you to several, or a simple > Google search will turn up dozens more. there are also sample files that come with the mutt distribution; what's wrong with tho

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jussi Ekholm said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:48:28PM +0200: >> Umm... as I saw my mail posted here, Mutt told me that "the following >> data is signed" and all the other PGP stuff. So - am I doing it correctly >> after all? :-) > > No, you're not. Loo

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:48:28PM +0200: > > Umm... as I saw my mail posted here, Mutt told me that "the following > data is signed" and all the other PGP stuff. So - am I doing it correctly > after all? :-) No, you're not. Look at the contents of your ma

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I'm using CVS Mutt 1.5.0i, and I was just recently introduced to PGP > and now I'd like to assign Mutt to sign all of my outgoing mails with > my personal key... I've read the manual, I've read PGP man pages and > instructions, but I just can't f

PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Hi! I'm using CVS Mutt 1.5.0i, and I was just recently introduced to PGP and now I'd like to assign Mutt to sign all of my outgoing mails with my personal key... I've read the manual, I've read PGP man pages and instructions, but I just can't figure what to put in: set pgp_sign_command="" Any i