Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

. -Original Message- From: Dwight Arthur <m...@dwightarthur.us> To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO Hi, TRS. Wifi sync can work with as many devices as you like, except that each sync s

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

my android device. -Original Message- From: Dwight Arthur <m...@dwightarthur.us> To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO Hi, bs. There are no simple solutions. When you see a solution that looks s

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

ups.com Sent: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO Hi, bs. There are no simple solutions. When you see a solution that looks simple that means that you are missing something. The technique you are advocating, shared key encryption (a subset o

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

I'd like to briefly chime in. Please understand I am not following the thread, so I apologize if this seems out of place. I personally LOVE MLO and I hope that a discussion with such a negative title doesn't sway the developers to stop work on this product. I know I am WAY more productive

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Hi, bs. There are no simple solutions. When you see a solution that looks simple that means that you are missing something. The technique you are advocating, shared key encryption (a subset of shared secret encryption) is a longstanding and respectable approach, and will probably keep your

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Interesting observation, thank you. Isn't the solution, to my data is my data and nobody else's business, to have the data stored encrypted, with the key not residing on the cloud server but on my own device? (i.e. No key for the NSA to subpoena, all data leaving the device is encrypted, and

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Hi, Bidness. A couple of years ago Andrey announced that MLO cloud sync, like most Cloud services, was running on Amazon servers. Unless there has been a change those servers are within reach of the NSA. I would consider this as unsecured personal storage. I agree with you that security

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

All good points, and I suppose I knew them already if I would have stopped to think about it further. :) My personal opinion is not that Linux is such a small market segment (truthfully I didn't take the time to pull up any numbers here) but rather the perception that "Linux people" might not

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

I think this is also a wise middle ground. Especially as you say "as yet unknown devices." And keeping the cloud service keeps revenue coming in for the developers. I am OK with that, we all need to eat after all. But here is thee problem with the Cloud service: how encrypted is it? Now here I

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

I agree with almost everything you have written, thanks for the reply. As far as PIM (Contacts / Calendar), I agree with "my data is mine" and therefore I am moving in the direction of open protocols like WebDAV/CalDAV or something, and/or something like OwnCloud, running on my own low power

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

I am using MLO on Linux using wine and everything works well. I have written a short blog article about how to install MLO on Linux. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

I used to run a VM just to run MLO, I think you've made a fair point that Linux fans love MLO, and I wish to see Web app, Cloud API etc. But I love MLO enough that I still think it has future :) Zainan Victor Zhou 周载南 Software Engineer at Google Email: z...@zzn.im Phone: (650) 336-5691

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Good discussion. Have tried a few of these new ones (Todoist,Wunderlist.. etc.) and the amount of mouse clicks it takes to get stuff done is no fun. Request to MLO team: No matter which way things go please keep/maintain/upgrade the stand alone desktop Windows client with the keyboard

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

1. Where next? In case you are wondering where I'm going, after a little research I'm going to try *Nirvana*. The do not have multi-level projects, not multi-level task, but I'm going to see if I can live with that... 2. Suggestion My parting suggestion for the MLO team is that someone in

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

I don't have time to read this whole thread - my apologies - but I thought I'd add my tuppence worth here, because personally I am in the process of *leaving MLO*. I originally bought MLO to save me time. I'm pretty sure it hasn't. I have been on MLO for over a year and it has absorbed

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Am 10.08.2016 um 21:39 schrieb Nunya Bidness Gogl: Primarily for me, the biggest problem seems to be that there is still no Linux version, ... And there probably never will. The simple reason is that MLO was designed as a Windows app, it does probably not use any of the cross-platform GUI

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Hi, BS and Bidness. It's my opinion that Linux is the third-most wished-for MLO platform, with Mac at the top followed by Windows phone. My opinion, and I believe I am agreeing with BS and the OP, is that a cloud-based API with a web UI would be the best: it would be usable by people on these

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

I came here to post some concerns I had, but Google Groups brought this thread up as a suggestion, and so I thought I would add to this thread instead of creating a new one. I will just ad the observation that, 4 years on from OP, that some of the same issues still exist (unless I have missed

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Appart from etc, everything you said can be done with Toodledo move a bulk of tasks, use keyboard shortcuts, rapid task entry, change the due date or context of 15 tasks together, powerfully filter you viex upon your own criterias, It's the no hierarchy that kill it for me. At this time I'm

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

I'll admit that having an iPad, Android tablet, Android phone, and a Windows desktop can be frustrating if you want tools across all of them. But I have to say that MLO has enabled me to eliminate the brain drain of trying to recall each task and which ones I should be doing next. It's

RE: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Transisto Sent: 27 November 2012 09:21 To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO Appart from etc, everything you said can be done with Toodledo move a bulk

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Yes Toodledo is far not that powerful than MLO. Never the less, possibly it would be great to have an sync interface with it, even not all features are usable. Am Mittwoch, 7. November 2012 09:31:43 UTC+1 schrieb robisme: Toodledo is far far far away from the ergonomic of MLO. Try to move a

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Unfortunately, nothing comes even close to MLO. I have looked hard, and the only thing I found was an open source package which had some great features, but written in Java (i think) and is just painful to interact with (so ugly, etc) that it detracts from productivity, at least for me. In the

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

What is the package? Sounds like you're in the first blush of wrapping your head around this stuff (e.g. GTD). Certainly you could do much, much, worse than starting with MLO as you begin your journey. I've no doubt we all wish you a successful one beyond your wildest hopes. Your note

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Some good points. Inline. On 12-11-18 10:23 AM, landis.a wrote: Very Thoughtful series of posts here. Nice to hear the level of interest from everyone. I have been struggling with the question of whether I want to go down this road. *Plus Points:* * MLO is very capable * MLO will

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

you got a point, but I started to use MLO exactly because it has a thick client.. Its much quicker - I use some web based apps at work and its very painfull.. And MLO was also sync centric (which is exception amongst task management apps) with cloud comming its great.. And as most users in the

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Very Thoughtful series of posts here. Nice to hear the level of interest from everyone. I have been struggling with the question of whether I want to go down this road. *Plus Points:* - MLO is very capable - MLO will synch between Windows and Android - MLO is an Outliner with

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Minor point of correction. Microsoft Does have a Android APP for OneNote. It synchs with 2010 OneNote and it is also editable via the Web on SkyDrive. I have 2007 OneNote so I can't talk about the synch but the process is pretty good between Android and SkyDrie. OneNote is a good ap but not

RE: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

my productivity. Richard From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Holmes245 Sent: 15 November 2012 5:11 PM To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO I think that what we're all forgetting

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

productivity. Richard *From:*mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Holmes245 *Sent:* 15 November 2012 5:11 PM *To:* mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO I think that what we're all forgetting

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

2012 5:11 PM *To:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO I think that what we're all forgetting is that the manpower just isn't there. I've pretty much gathered from what hasn't and has been said that Andrey just doesn't have

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

I think that what we're all forgetting is that the manpower just isn't there. I've pretty much gathered from what hasn't and has been said that Andrey just doesn't have the manpower to do all of this. It's apparent to me that he's not even trying to be competitive at this point probably

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

- If we are talking about ultimate commercial success, it would be sufficient to follow the road map of a top developer, like for example, Evernote - Evernote has fully functional native applications on the two major desktop OSs - Has somewhat less functional (but

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

On Thursday, 8 November 2012 17:56:50 UTC-5, Richard C wrote: You raise some interesting points about collaboration/team use using MLO which by co-incidence I was also thinking about today. The conclusion that I came to was that MLO is very much a personal organisational tool that

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

On Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:16:49 UTC-5, Malibu wrote: Web based services are the technical junk food of the 21st century. It is so enticing to embrace them but look at the articles popping up about cyberspying, and we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg. Your company's

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

BONUS! Thanks for the post (and the other one mentioning wine as viable)! I didn't know that - too many apps over too many years, I suppose, to remember that this one DOES work. Sadly, I can't run wine - running 64-bit Kubuntu LTE, and somewhere along the line, Debian I expect, has botched

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

:* RE: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO You raise some interesting points about collaboration/team use using MLO which by co-incidence I was also thinking about today. The conclusion that I came to was that MLO is very much a personal organisational tool that individuals use

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

As in my example I have some machines with Linux, how to use MLO? I'm running MLO through wine on my Linux Mint 13 (based on ubuntu 12) machine and it runs AWESOME. Everything I've tried so far works, seamlessly and fast, just like on my Windows machine, and looks great. It was easy to

RE: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

@googlegroups.com Subject: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO IMHO as a project manager with 20+ years of experience using both manual and electronic planning tools, there are definitely some considerations going forward for any business wanting to manage themselves. * Can the tool

Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Web based services are the technical junk food of the 21st century. It is so enticing to embrace them but look at the articles popping up about cyberspying, and we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg. Your company's intellectual property deserves protection which can only come from relentless

RE: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO IMHO as a project manager with 20+ years of experience using both manual and electronic planning tools, there are definitely some considerations going forward for any business wanting to manage themselves

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

Toodledo is far far far away from the ergonomic of MLO. Try to move a bulk of tasks, use keyboard shortcuts, rapid task entry, change the due date or context of 15 tasks together, powerfully filter you viex upon your own criterias, etc. Le mercredi 7 novembre 2012 08:43:12 UTC+1, lrando a

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

IMHO as a project manager with 20+ years of experience using both manual and electronic planning tools, there are definitely some considerations going forward for any business wanting to manage themselves. - Can the tool provide Hierarchical organization of projects? (if needed, they

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

As in my example I have some machines with Linux, how to use MLO? Wine. If windows 8 fails, and some people will turn to Mac/Linux, what to do? Wine. If I bought chrome book, how to use MLO? You'd be out a lot more software than just MLO if you used a chromebook. In short I don't

[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO

BRAVO. Instead of six or more development branches, MLO could have just two, both web based, one for pc and one for mobile. I'm glad to see someone else point this out. I brought this up within the past year in this forum, and subsequently rely more on toodledo for all my personal stuff, and