Re: [MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-04-04 Thread Neal
I think the issue you face is the high ratio of the hourly cost of a programmer to the overall cost of the software. If you are asking for a "side project" you are talking about either a consultant or paying an existing programmer overtime. So lets say $50.00/hour. So if you could get people to

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-04-03 Thread pottster
Plze!! I enjoy a good discussion but, really, just THINK about what you're suggesting. A few(!) questions... How much do you think people would have to "chip in"? Enough to engage another developer? on a contract/permanant basis? Enough to suspend current development and re-prioritize? Where

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-04-03 Thread qhamel
All, A short rebuttal to Ken then further explanation of my first thread: Ken, I'm sure Andrey is motivated by BOTH money and the desire to make excellent software. There is nothing distasteful or wrong with wanting to receive compensation for work. My suggestion does not compromise either. In fa

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-04-02 Thread otomo
I just wanna add a double-plus-good for relative dates in the template system. I am not going to pay for any feature extra. This idea sounds hilarious to me after just paying my bucks for my Standard Edition 2 weeks ago. On Apr 1, 2:22 pm, chuckdevee wrote: > Just to throw my tuppence ha'penny

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-04-01 Thread chuckdevee
Just to throw my tuppence ha'penny worth into this discussion. I really don't think we should get distracted with the issue of a small group of users paying for their own preferred developments. I mean, come on, it's just not going to happen is it? !! Product development just isn't driven by this

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-31 Thread pottster
To: qhamel Nice one! Appeal to the money-grabbing instincts of the Developer's evil twin sister "Audrey". But seriously, this suggestion is wrong on so many levels. If money IS the motivation then, in the current recession, there are two types of company doing well. Those selling small amounts o

Re: [MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-30 Thread Lisa Stroyan
At 06:13 PM 3/30/2010, you wrote: Since this might be outside Audrey's product roadmapwould all on this thread be willing to chip in $xx amount for Audrey to add the feature or we could ask him what he would do if for and see if we could rally others to join in to bring the cost down. Only

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-30 Thread qhamel
Since this might be outside Audrey's product roadmapwould all on this thread be willing to chip in $xx amount for Audrey to add the feature or we could ask him what he would do if for and see if we could rally others to join in to bring the cost down. Audrey what do you think? I'm in the softw

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-12 Thread Philb
Thanks for sharing. I'm going to try this approach. Phil. > > My work around is simply to add a T-minus tag to the name of each > subtask.  "Print Courseware [T-5]"  If I copy or move an event date, I > redo the dates using these tags.  This way I can use start times  for > their intended purpose

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-09 Thread djsdjsdjs
I owe a couple replies: *scope creep* pottster, I completely understand scope creep and what it can do to software. However, I have submitted literally hundreds of software ideas to open source and commercial software initiatives. It is a purposeful focus for me to be exceptionally aware of the

Re: [MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-07 Thread nschm873
Forgot to mention that if something like this technique was used you would need to be a little creative with your ToDo views to actually see it. That is why I thought something like this should be incorporated into a broader solution of having a Goal date and Due Date. That way "relative" relatio

Re: [MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-07 Thread nschm873
Hey djsdjsdjs, the T-minus technique you are talking about is actually a pretty popular tool in time management. If you search the Internet on "Backward Planning" you should see a number of references to it. And I would have no problem if Andrey were to add functionality to support such a popula

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-07 Thread pottster
> I use MS Project quite a lot and it just doesn't work for this near > term planning. I forgot to mention Richard, try the MS Project 2010 Beta it's light years better - they finally got it right! On Mar 7, 12:54 pm, Richard C wrote: > I am with djsdjsdjs on this one.   To my mind there is a si

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-07 Thread pottster
Load balancing and date driven scheduling are two very different things Richard. In terms of functionality to help manage personal workload over time (load balancing), I think this would be a very natural and desirable development from where MLO is now. As for the calendar view, I think that one'

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-07 Thread pottster
For clarity, let me explain in more detail what I think the risk is here. I have been involved in many projects big and small, from IT to construction to outsourcing. I have also spent a lot of time in manufacturing planning and scheduling. Project scheduling (which is what you're getting into), e

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-07 Thread Richard C
I am with djsdjsdjs on this one. To my mind there is a significant gap in the market between the MS Project project planning tool and something that allows an individual to plan/sketch out their work over the next few weeks to a) put in place reminders to do things and b) get some sense of whet

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-06 Thread djsdjsdjs
I couldn't disagree more. I work as a one-person company and MS project would definitely be complete overkill. This isn't a complex or unusual concept - but the requirement is not frequently articulated by users. I have also included implementation suggestions that respects the desire of everyo

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-06 Thread pottster
I think the problem here is that you are looking for functionality which is beyond the scope of personal task management software such as MLO. All the functionality you want (and more) has been available for a long time in programs such as MS Project. I know Project is expensive but there are als

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-06 Thread djsdjsdjs
On Mar 5, 5:20 pm, nschm873 wrote: > + 1 on relative dates... > > Note Ken's reference to "lag" for even more previous requests... > > http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/browse_thread/thread/8... > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:26 PM, djsdjsdjs > wrote: > This is actually different than

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-06 Thread djsdjsdjs
I thought of a name for this functionality. "T-Minus Due Dates" - The metaphor being that it is similar to the countdown for a rocket blast-off - all configured dates/times are "relative to the top level task dates/times" I thought of an even simpler way of implementing this that also increases

Re: [MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-05 Thread nschm873
+ 1 on relative dates... Note Ken's reference to "lag" for even more previous requests... http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/browse_thread/thread/89a06dbb1e589621/d9229bf2682d88ab?lnk=gst&q=interval#d9229bf2682d88ab On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:26 PM, djsdjsdjs wrote: > > I agree. I ha

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-05 Thread djsdjsdjs
I agree. I have pitched to several task management software makers and they just don't seem to get the value. In many of their cases there would be significant rework of logic, UI and user familiarity - but MLO is almost there already with the great way it can duplicate an entire task hierarchy.

[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Copy Project Templates and Preserve Date Intervals

2010-03-05 Thread Philb
+1 I think this has come up before. However, this would take MLO to a whole new level if Andrey can make it happen. On Mar 4, 8:55 am, djsdjsdjs wrote: > I conduct online courses that include shipped paper courseware.  These > "Projects" (in MLO speak) have the same sequence with the same > int