Re: need help from the list admin

2016-04-03 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- Am 1. Apr 2016 um 21:56 schrieb shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com: > Correct. MyISAM is not a transactional storage engine. It has no concept > of COMMIT or ROLLBACK. Changes to it are controlled by a full table lock > and as soon as the change is complete, the table is unlocked and is

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-04-03 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- Am 1. Apr 2016 um 17:45 schrieb shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com: >> Is the mix of MyISAM and InnoDB a problem with Row-Based-Logging or >> with Statement-Based-Logging or with both ? >> >> > > Both. > > >> >> I don't understand the example: >> Does "begin transaction" and "COMMIT"

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-04-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.04.2016 um 21:09 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: - Am 1. Apr 2016 um 17:45 schrieb shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com: You said, "This is done on the master, written in the log and then replicated to the slave, " The INSERT would not appear in the Binary log until after session 1 commits

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-04-01 Thread Lentes, Bernd
Sorry for pm ! - Am 1. Apr 2016 um 17:45 schrieb shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com: >>> You would be better served by first converting your MyISAM tables to >>> InnoDB to stop mixing storage engine behaviors (transactional and >>> non-transactional) within the scope of a single transacti

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-04-01 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- Am 1. Apr 2016 um 17:52 schrieb shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com: >> What is true ? when the transaction started or when the first read is >> performed ? > Until you need to establish a snapshot of the data, then you don't need > a snapshot position. > > The transaction physically

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-04-01 Thread shawn l.green
On 4/1/2016 10:08 AM, Lentes, Bernd wrote: - On Apr 1, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Bernd Lentes bernd.len...@helmholtz-muenchen.de wrote: Btw: i read about isolation levels. REPEATABLE READ is the default for InnoDB. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/glossary.html#glos_repeatable_read says:

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-04-01 Thread shawn l.green
On 4/1/2016 9:12 AM, Lentes, Bernd wrote: - On Mar 25, 2016, at 9:54 PM, shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com wrote: "Unsafe" in that sense replies to the fact that certain commands can have a different effect when processed from the Binary Log than they did when they were executed ori

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-04-01 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- On Apr 1, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Bernd Lentes bernd.len...@helmholtz-muenchen.de wrote: Btw: i read about isolation levels. REPEATABLE READ is the default for InnoDB. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/glossary.html#glos_repeatable_read says: "...so that all queries within a transaction s

RE: need help from the list admin

2016-04-01 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- On Mar 25, 2016, at 9:54 PM, shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com wrote: > "Unsafe" in that sense replies to the fact that certain commands can > have a different effect when processed from the Binary Log than they did > when they were executed originally on the system that wrote the Bina

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-30 Thread shawn l.green
On 3/30/2016 1:26 PM, Lentes, Bernd wrote: - On Mar 30, 2016, at 7:04 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: So i should use the default (autocommit=1)? no, you should what is appropriate for your application if you don't care about inserts/updates triggered by let say a webr

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2016 um 19:26 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: - On Mar 30, 2016, at 7:04 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: So i should use the default (autocommit=1)? no, you should what is appropriate for your application if you don't care about inserts/updates triggered by let say a w

RE: need help from the list admin

2016-03-30 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- On Mar 30, 2016, at 7:04 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: >> So i should use the default (autocommit=1)? > > no, you should what is appropriate for your application > > if you don't care about inserts/updates triggered by let say a > webrequest are half written due a crash

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2016 um 18:56 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: - On Mar 28, 2016, at 9:53 PM, shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com wrote: I read that the converting is not difficult. But has the code of our webapp to be changed ? It's written in php and perl. What i understand is that inserts/updates/dele

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-30 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- On Mar 28, 2016, at 9:53 PM, shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com wrote: >> >> I read that the converting is not difficult. But has the code of our webapp >> to >> be changed ? It's written in php and perl. >> What i understand is that inserts/updates/deletions in InnoDB tables have to

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.03.2016 um 21:36 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: - On Mar 27, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.03.2016 um 14:34 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: You would be better served by first converting your MyISAM tables to InnoDB to stop mixing storage engine behaviors (tran

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-28 Thread shawn l.green
Hello Bernd, On 3/28/2016 3:36 PM, Lentes, Bernd wrote: - On Mar 27, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.03.2016 um 14:34 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: You would be better served by first converting your MyISAM tables to InnoDB to stop mixing storage engine beha

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-28 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- On Mar 27, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: > Am 27.03.2016 um 14:34 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: >>> You would be better served by first converting your MyISAM tables to >>> InnoDB to stop mixing storage engine behaviors (transactional and >>> non-transactional) wit

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.03.2016 um 14:34 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: You would be better served by first converting your MyISAM tables to InnoDB to stop mixing storage engine behaviors (transactional and non-transactional) within the scope of a single transaction. But if you cannot convert them, using MIXED will be a

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-27 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- Am 25. Mrz 2016 um 21:54 schrieb shawn l.green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com: > Hello Bernd, > > Sorry for the delay, I wanted to make sure I had enough time to address > all of your points. >> He proposed to have two hosts, and on each is running a MySQL instance >> as master AND slave. But

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-25 Thread shawn l.green
Hello Bernd, Sorry for the delay, I wanted to make sure I had enough time to address all of your points. On 3/22/2016 7:07 AM, william drescher wrote: sent for Bernd, and to see if it works from another sender -- Lentes, Bernd wrote: Hi, i know t

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-23 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:11 AM, william drescher will...@techservsys.com wrote: >> >> Hi William, >> >> thanks for the try. Good idea ! >> Did you change anything ? >> >> >> Bernd > > Yes, in the original document there were some characters that > were put on the screen as asian pictograph

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-23 Thread william drescher
On 3/22/2016 7:49 AM, Lentes, Bernd wrote: - On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:07 PM, william drescher will...@techservsys.com wrote: sent for Bernd, and to see if it works from another sender -- Lentes, Bernd wrote: Hi, i know that there is a list ded

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-22 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:07 PM, william drescher will...@techservsys.com wrote: > sent for Bernd, and to see if it works from another sender > -- > Lentes, Bernd wrote: > Hi, > > i know that there is a list dedicated to replication, but when > y

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-22 Thread william drescher
sent for Bernd, and to see if it works from another sender -- Lentes, Bernd wrote: Hi, i know that there is a list dedicated to replication, but when you have a look in the archive it's nearly complete empty. Really not busy. So i hope it's ok if i

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-21 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- On Mar 19, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: > Am 19.03.2016 um 15:23 schrieb Reindl Harald: >> >> >> Am 19.03.2016 um 15:17 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: >>> one further question: >>> if some of my e-mails get through (like this one) and others don't, it >>> does not

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2016 um 14:56 schrieb Chris Knipe: Blah blah blah... Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: mysql@lists.mysql.com Technical details of permanent failure: Your message was rejected by the server for the recipient domain lists.mysql.com by lists-mx.mysql.com. [13

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Chris Knipe
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Lentes, Bernd < bernd.len...@helmholtz-muenchen.de> wrote: > i need your help. I'm trying to write an e-Mail to the list for already > one week. I always get it back because it's classified as spam. > Ditto. I've pretty much given up on this list...

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.03.2016 um 15:23 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 19.03.2016 um 15:17 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: one further question: if some of my e-mails get through (like this one) and others don't, it does not depend on theh reputation of our domain or mailserver ? Right ? So the reason has to be that parti

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.03.2016 um 15:17 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: one further question: if some of my e-mails get through (like this one) and others don't, it does not depend on theh reputation of our domain or mailserver ? Right ? So the reason has to be that particular e-Mail? both a spamfilter is typically

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.03.2016 um 15:08 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: Ok. I tried again: pc53200:~ # nslookup 20.103.107.146.score.senderscore.com. Server: 146.107.8.88 Address:146.107.8.88#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: 20.103.107.146.score.senderscore.com Address: 127.0.4.62 My result is 127

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Lentes, Bernd
Hi, one further question: if some of my e-mails get through (like this one) and others don't, it does not depend on theh reputation of our domain or mailserver ? Right ? So the reason has to be that particular e-Mail ? Bernd Helmholtz Zentrum Muenchen Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Gesundh

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Lentes, Bernd
- Am 18. Mrz 2016 um 15:34 schrieb Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: > Am 18.03.2016 um 15:25 schrieb Lentes, Bernd: >> >> - Am 18. Mrz 2016 um 14:52 schrieb Johan De Meersman vegiv...@tuxera.be: >> > > as i already told you offlist > senderscore.com LISTED 127.0.4.67 > > this *

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Reindl Harald
f the mailserver classifies you as spam, that's usually caused by something on your side :-) - Original Message - From: "Chris Knipe" To: "Lentes, Bernd" Cc: "MySql" Sent: Friday, 18 March, 2016 14:46:26 Subject: Re: need help from the list admin Ditto.

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Chris Knipe
; >>> - Original Message - >>> >>>> From: "Chris Knipe" >>>> To: "Lentes, Bernd" >>>> Cc: "MySql" >>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March, 2016 14:46:26 >>>> Subject: Re: need help from the list adm

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-19 Thread Lentes, Bernd
u as spam, that's > usually caused by something on your side :-) > > - Original Message - >> From: "Chris Knipe" >> To: "Lentes, Bernd" >> Cc: "MySql" >> Sent: Friday, 18 March, 2016 14:46:26 >> Subj

Re: need help from the list admin

2016-03-18 Thread Chris Knipe
> > To: "Lentes, Bernd" > > Cc: "MySql" > > Sent: Friday, 18 March, 2016 14:46:26 > > Subject: Re: need help from the list admin > > > Ditto. I've pretty much given up on this list... > > -- > Unhappiness is discouraged and will be corrected with kitten pictures. > -- Regards, Chris Knipe