Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-13 Thread Jeremiah Gowdy
l Whitener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI I've had this debate with myself a hundred times over the past 5 years since SATA started becoming more popular. I've come to a few simple conclusions... I've also been dissapoi

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-13 Thread Daniel Whitener
ate their needs, > budget and boss. > > Larry > > > - Original Message - > From: "Moulder Glen CONT PBFL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:30 AM > Subject: FW: SATA vs SCSI > > Larry wrote: > > My $.02.

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-12 Thread Larry Lowry
- From: "Moulder Glen CONT PBFL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: FW: SATA vs SCSI Larry wrote: My $.02. As I agree SCSI has had a reputation for being a more solid enterprise type drive, everyone's mileage varies. We have moved to usi

FW: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-12 Thread Moulder Glen CONT PBFL
Larry wrote: My $.02. As I agree SCSI has had a reputation for being a more solid enterprise type drive, everyone's mileage varies. We have moved to using all SATA drives in our newer servers. I have to admit most of our databases are smaller than what many on this list have. All our db's a

RE: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-12 Thread Andy Eastham
decent backups :-) Andy > -Original Message- > From: Brent Baisley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 May 2005 17:47 > To: Scott M. Grim > Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com > Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI > > I'd be curious what you tested. Did the SATA drives support tagged > com

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-12 Thread Brent Baisley
because every failure has the potential to cause some cascade that can become devestating. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:29 PM Subject: SATA vs SCSI Were kicking around using SATA drives in software R

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-12 Thread Greg Whalin
Newer SATA drives are supporting command queueing, which should really help their performance. I think when SATA-2 becomes more available, SATA will start being a more viable choice and start rivaling SCSI performance. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mys

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-12 Thread Larry Lowry
ability is more than just the drive type. Good luck with whatever you decide to use. Larry - Original Message - From: "Scott M. Grim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI I've fairly extensively (although not neces

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-12 Thread Andy Davidson
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:29:47PM -0700, Kevin Burton wrote: > Were kicking around using SATA drives in software RAID0 config. > The price diff is significant. You can also get SATA drives in 10k RPM > form now., Good idea, but a few points : - 10krpm disks will run hotter than 7200rpm d

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-12 Thread Alec . Cawley
"Scott M. Grim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/05/2005 16:42:00: > I've fairly extensively (although not necessarily scientifically) tested > SATA 150 vs. SCSI U320 and find that if you're doing a lot of random reads > and writes (such as with a database server), SCSI provides nearly 5x the

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-12 Thread Scott M. Grim
m: "Kevin Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:29 PM Subject: SATA vs SCSI Were kicking around using SATA drives in software RAID0 config. The price diff is significant. You can also get SATA drives in 10k RPM form now., Kevin -- Use Rojo (RSS/Atom ag

RE: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-11 Thread Donny Simonton
Kevin, I am in the same boat that you are, I can't store anything in memory, just have too much data. I've got 2tb on one box right now, I did get a quote last week for that much memory, I think it was 4 million just for the memory. > Also.. if you have a high cache hit rate you can effectively h

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Burton
Dathan Pattishall wrote: Forget using drives all together for heavy hit applications. Build data that can fit on a ram Drive (8GB) then your able to do 20K Not everyone can run in this config... We have way more data than we can casually story in memory. It would just be cost prohibitive. Mem

RE: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-11 Thread Dathan Pattishall
load of load. DVP Dathan Vance Pattishall http://www.friendster.com > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:30 PM > To: mysql@lists.mysql.com > Subject: SATA vs SCSI > > Were kicking aro

Re: SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-11 Thread Brent Baisley
Is there a question in there or are you just making a statement? I'll make a statement myself. The big difference between ATA and SCSI is command queueing. That's really where the performance difference comes from. Basically, command queueing means the drive has some intelligence about handling

SATA vs SCSI

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Burton
Were kicking around using SATA drives in software RAID0 config. The price diff is significant. You can also get SATA drives in 10k RPM form now., Kevin -- Use Rojo (RSS/Atom aggregator)! - visit http://rojo.com. See irc.freenode.net #rojo if you want to chat. Rojo is Hiring! - http://www.ro

Re: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI

2004-11-13 Thread andy thomas
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Fagyal Csongor wrote: > Hi List, > > I am putting in a separate disk for our MySQL (4.1.7) server. I have > some MyISAM, some InnoDB tables. Lots of reads, lots of writes (mostly > atomic ones, insert/update one row), a few million rows per table, > approx. 100-400 queries per

RE: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI

2004-11-12 Thread Kirti S. Bajwa
Which SATA drive works under LINUX O/S? Kirti -Original Message- From: Larry Lowry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:06 PM To: Fagyal Csongor; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI For cost reasons I use SATA. Does the machine already have a

Re: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI

2004-11-12 Thread Larry Lowry
OTECTED]> Cc: "Fagyal Csongor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI If you are talking about the WD Raptor's -- stay away. Out of 6 we used, 3 failed. Do a few googles and you'll hear

Re: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI

2004-11-12 Thread Ugo Bellavance
Gary Richardson wrote: If you are talking about the WD Raptor's -- stay away. Out of 6 we used, 3 failed. Do a few googles and you'll hear the same from other users. On the other hand, the do fly. Raid10 them them on a 3ware 9500 and you'll be amazed. I agree on the 3Ware... Exceptionnal cards. To

Re: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI

2004-11-12 Thread Gary Richardson
om: "Fagyal Csongor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:03 PM > Subject: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI > > > Hi List, > > > > I am putting in a separate disk for our MySQL (4.1.7) server. I have > > some

Re: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI

2004-11-12 Thread Larry Lowry
t: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:03 PM Subject: Low-end SATA vs. SCSI Hi List, I am putting in a separate disk for our MySQL (4.1.7) server. I have some MyISAM, some InnoDB tables. Lots of reads, lots of writes (mostly atomic ones, insert/update one row), a few million rows per table, approx. 100-

Low-end SATA vs. SCSI

2004-11-12 Thread Fagyal Csongor
Hi List, I am putting in a separate disk for our MySQL (4.1.7) server. I have some MyISAM, some InnoDB tables. Lots of reads, lots of writes (mostly atomic ones, insert/update one row), a few million rows per table, approx. 100-400 queries per second. What would you say is better (with respect