RE: nanog volume (was: Problems sending mail to yahoo?)

> -Original Message- > From: Randy Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:56 PM > To: Martin Hannigan > Cc: nanog@merit.edu > Subject: nanog volume (was: Problems sending mail to yahoo?) > > > Can we wrap the mail threads up > &

nanog volume (was: Problems sending mail to yahoo?)

> Can we wrap the mail threads up actually, i am still learning from some of them. i have a hypothesis to add nanog list volume is proportional to S + E where S is the amount of Slack time the active members have and E is the existence of a significant Event in the absence o

Re: nanog 43 draft agenda posted

On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:49 PM, Todd Underwood wrote: the program committee is excited about both the content that has already been selected and how early we have been able to get this announcement out to the community. we have received feedback indicating that announcing most of the agenda early

Re: Nanog 43/CBX -- Hotel codes etc

> Anyway -- I regard most of those warnings as quite overblown. I mean, > on lots of subway cars you stand out more if you don't have white > earbuds in, probably attached to iPhones. Midtown is very safe. Your > laptop bag doesn't have to say "laptop" on it to be recognized as such, > but ther

Re: Nanog 43/CBX -- Hotel codes etc

On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:21:41 -0400 "David Diaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TIPS: > New York is a wonderful city, however, as with any large city travel > safely > -Do not use your iPod white ear pieces. Especially on the > subway at night > -Travel in groups or with a local > -Know where you are

Nanog 43/CBX -- Hotel codes etc

will need your nanog code as well as the CBX code below for your longer duration stay. Also, if you are PLANNING ANY EVENTS during the nanog and wish that information passed on to other attendees please feel free to forward me your event. I can also help make sure it does not conflict with any other

RE: I'm going to stay on the NANOG list anyway

Thanks for letting us know that we should update our kill files. Al -Original Message- From: James R. Cutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: March 21, 2008 4:39 PM To: ?NANOG? Operators Group 3F_Operators_Group_ Subject: I'm going to stay on the NANOG list anyway Whoops! I

I'm going to stay on the NANOG list anyway

Whoops! I'm still coming to grips with multihoming. According to your thinking, my many years on the NANOG mailing list were wrong and you tell me I should leave. I don't think I can allow you to do that, Andrew. Paul Vixie, Dillon, Bush, and others have given many e

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

William Allen Simpson wrote: Marshall Eubanks wrote: I used to count the proportion of Mac laptops in the room (or, at least, my row) to pass the time when I was bored. I remember at the 1999 Washington IETF I saw exactly one, and I could hear people whisper about it around me. I used

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

Marshall Eubanks wrote: I used to count the proportion of Mac laptops in the room (or, at least, my row) to pass the time when I was bored. I remember at the 1999 Washington IETF I saw exactly one, and I could hear people whisper about it around me. I used to attend with various Power

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Randy Bush wrote: > and i lived through duo, hinote, viao, thinkpad, alienware, and now mac. > i keep the alienware because it has real graphics, 1920x1024, as > opposed to the mac. There was a guy from Amazon at the San Jose meeting who'd transplanted an u

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

definitely agree with supermicro, freebsd, zfs for servers. it rocks! and i lived through duo, hinote, viao, thinkpad, alienware, and now mac. i keep the alienware because it has real graphics, 1920x1024, as opposed to the mac. on the alienware, i run winxp with cygwin as host, vmware, and the

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

> Macbook Pro (all of IANA (with one recent exception) use Macs of one form > or another). All of PCH uses MacBook Pros. Except Gaurab, who uses a MacBook Air. :-) > > In the good ole days it seemed like 99% were PCs & maybe a couple were > > reinstalled with some form of unix

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

On 3/9/08, Jason Lixfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the overwhelming question for me is why? Is it simply the fact > that the native *nix underpinnings are where most users (within the > aforementioned demographic) spend most of their time anyway? > > That's what did it for me - repeat

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

my laptop, and both my desktops, run KDE. the underlying operating system is usually something like opensuse (a linux distro) or pcbsd or desktopbsd (which are freebsd distros). all i need from the OS is to support KDE well, patch itself from a vendor mothership often, do suspend/resume and wire

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

So the overwhelming question for me is why? Is it simply the fact that the native *nix underpinnings are where most users (within the aforementioned demographic) spend most of their time anyway? That's what did it for me - repeated attempts to get FreeBSD to run stable on the Inspiron I

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

On Mar 9, 2008, at 3:21 PM, David Conrad wrote: Hi, On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:40 PM, William Norton wrote: I was quite surprised to see the large number of Mac laptops at NANOG 42. I didn't do a formal count but it seemed like about 1/4 to 1/3 of the laptops in use were Macs. ...You

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

i am moving to a macbook pro, or trying to, from a freebsd/winxp. but why did they have to 'add value' by mucking with freebsd and breaking my fingers? and whoever thought the mac screen was good never used my alienware 1920x1024. at the ipv4 econ meet on tasman last week, macs were in extreme

NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

Hi, On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:40 PM, William Norton wrote: I was quite surprised to see the large number of Mac laptops at NANOG 42. I didn't do a formal count but it seemed like about 1/4 to 1/3 of the laptops in use were Macs. ...You know, now that you mention it, I was also quite impr

RE: [nanog] Re: Network Notifcation - SMS via Verizon

ion, every time." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:55 AM To: Jeremy T. Bouse Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; nanog list Subject: Re: [nanog] Re: Network Notifcation - SMS via Verizon >

Re: [nanog] Re: Network Notifcation - SMS via Verizon

> The other side of this besides the delayed receiving of messages is > with monitoring you want to get the alerts even if your network is down > and unable to send via email to your pager, cellphone, etc. Having an > out of band method to get those alerts out on criticial alerts is > para

Re: [nanog] RE: Abandoned ship anchor found at FALCON cable cut

I think in order to be consistent it has to be: subho backanchor Feel free to come up with your own, and start making up jokes like: how do you find an underseas cable? let an anchor fall and see where it lands. allan On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: Doesn't so

Re: [nanog] RE: Abandoned ship anchor found at FALCON cable cut

Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: Doesn't sound like sabotage to me. In fact, it sounds like bad luck. Will this now be termed "Anchor fade" in the future? It's only being occurring for ~160 years at this point, so clearly it's a new and exciting phenomena. Tuc

Re: [nanog] RE: Abandoned ship anchor found at FALCON cable cut

> > Doesn't sound like sabotage to me. In fact, it sounds like bad luck. > Will this now be termed "Anchor fade" in the future? Tuc

Re: Where is the nanog acronym glossary?, was Re: Lessons from the AU model

FWIW.. http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/NANOG_Glossary =JeffH

Where is the nanog acronym glossary?, was Re: Lessons from the AU model

And DFZ yields either Duty Free Zone or the ticker symbol for Rg Barry Corp. It took me two weeks to figure out PI (Provider Independent, related to address assignments by a registry.) The FAQ has no mention of a glossary, but it needs to. Dale, AS 26424 >From: Marshall Eubanks <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Dictionary attacks prompted by NANOG postings?

On Jan 17, 2008 12:13 PM, Barry Shein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once again shortly after posting a message to NANOG a fairly > significant dictionary attack using Earthlink's mail servers fired up. > > The same thing happened around Nov 30th (I posted about it here.)

Re: Dictionary attacks prompted by NANOG postings?

Does this happen to anyone else posting here? not that i have noticed. i do see massively (> 5x) more ssh dict attacks on the hosts i have in tokyo than those on other continents. but the sample size is too small to draw any serious conclusions. but i would guess there are folk who actual

Dictionary attacks prompted by NANOG postings?

Once again shortly after posting a message to NANOG a fairly significant dictionary attack using Earthlink's mail servers fired up. The same thing happened around Nov 30th (I posted about it here.) Does this happen to anyone else posting here? It's pretty clearly a lame attempt to

RE: NANOG website unreachable?

I see the site, not the error. --Patrick Darden -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniele Arena Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:48 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: NANOG website unreachable? Hi, Am I the only one to get a 403 on http

NANOG 42 Peering BOF XVII and APRICOT 2008 Peering Forum

Hi all - In about a month (starting Feb 17 specifically) there will be two back-to-back events specifically for network engineers and peering coordinators; at NANOG 42, Feb 19, we will have the 17th Peering BOF (http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0802/agenda.html), and the following week, at

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

t; Its operational and de minimus and sometimes the most simple way to > arrange something... e.g. a mail filter/blackhole and no obvious contact > phone number (e.g. the remote website is affected by the blackhole, etc). > > This is not a suggestion that NANOG should be carte-blanche a

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

umber (e.g. the remote website is affected by the blackhole, etc). This is not a suggestion that NANOG should be carte-blanche a paging service, but in the few cases it appears, it doesn't seem to be clue-deprived requests that often. Deepak Jain AiNET

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

Normally these requests are looking for somebody who's operational and has a clue, and therefore aren't intended for me (:-), but IMHO they're_really_ not a problem. They're almost always short, and have Subject: lines that indicate what they're about, so it's easy to skip over them based on the S

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

"Martin Hannigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We'd like to politely note that paging each other on the list without > content or context is generally off-topic. I understand the motivation, but I think the "paging" messages should be allowed. I've done it myself, in desperation after exhausti

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

If only there were some web site where someone could go to search for NOC contact info and update theirs if the current data is incomplete... http://puck.nether.net/netops/ Does not work ... when you try to add a listing: POSTed url: http://puck.nether.net/netops/admin-x.cgi returns: Your

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

Patrick Clochesy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We could come up with a list or an updateable site, but it's bound to be > abused and thus ignored, the same reason people arn't sending to abuse@ and > postmaster@ in the first place. If only there were some web site where someone could go to sear

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

k operator :) We could come up with a list or an updateable site, but it's bound to be abused and thus ignored, the same reason people arn't sending to abuse@ and postmaster@ in the first place. I think the reason such a site doesn't exist already is because it's a spam se

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

list or an updateable site, but it's bound to be abused and thus ignored, the same reason people arn't sending to abuse@ and postmaster@ in the first place. -Patrick - Original Message - From: "Martin Hannigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: nanog@merit.edu Cc: &qu

[admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

ter. Best Regards, Martin Hannigan NANOG Mailing List Committee

Re: [nanog] Connections among ASes (fwd)

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:49:13 CST, Chengchen Hu said: > Suppose the following example. ISP A has a router A1 in IXP1 and a router A2 > in > IXP2; and ISP B has a routers B1 in IXP1 and a router B2 in IXP2. It is > possible that we have DIRECT link A1A2 and B1B2 to connnect two IXPs, but I > don't

Re: [nanog] Connections among ASes (fwd)

your routers are located in the same IXP? - From: Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET Data: 2007-11-29 19:29:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Subject: [nanog] Connections among ASes (fwd) > > > Hi, > > I am not sure about whether the foll

Re: [admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers take II

helpful and the Merit folks are as competent (or more in some cases) as any of us. We'll keep you posted and do a post mortem. Best Regards, Martin Hannigan NANOG MLC Member

Re: [admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers take II

Bill Nash wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > > >> On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 11:11:28AM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote: >> >>> On Nov 9, 2007 11:00 AM, Bill Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Given the serious impact this is having on operations, does this have a

Re: [admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers take II

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 11:11:28AM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > On Nov 9, 2007 11:00 AM, Bill Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Given the serious impact this is having on operations, does this have a > > > master ticket number or escalation i

Re: [admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers take II

On Nov 9, 2007 11:00 AM, Bill Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given the serious impact this is having on operations, does this have a > master ticket number or escalation id of some type? Has the vendor been > involved yet? When can we expect to see a post mortem/RFO? > > - billn Try not to

Re: [admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers take II

fixed soon. Thanks to all who have let us > know about this. > > Best Regards, > > Martin Hannigan > NANOG MLC Member >

[admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers take II

et us know about this. Best Regards, Martin Hannigan NANOG MLC Member

Re: [admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers

nigan NANOG MLC Member

[admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers

Dear Colleagues: We have an issue with bounce messages blowing back at NANOG subscribers. We are aware of this, and Merit, the folks who provide us the day to day technical support for the service, is working diligently to resolve the problem. Thank you to everyone that has let us know. Best

RE: OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel

Just for the purpose of clarification - it was not the NANOG list that our salesperson was using. However, because the gentleman who brought it to our attention cc'd NANOG - we apologized here as well. Again -- very sorry for the distraction this created. Kind regards, Sherry Ollins Dir

Re: OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel

> going to "do it" they keep trying. The AUP that we ( the NANOG MLC) presented to the "community" at NANOG 41, which seemed to have wide support, contained a new provision to deal with this problem. Hopefully, the "steering" committee will step up to the plate and approve soon. -M<

Re: OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel

> How often do people take the time to ask any given salescritter how they > came by contact info? I use tagged addresses (as you can see), and if a vendor contacts me at an address I use solely for mailing lists the conversation is going to be short, unpleasant and unprofitable-- but I can't rem

Re: OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel

All, This thread has run its course. Let's move on, please, as it is not and never has been on topic. Thanks! - Tim

Re: OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel

On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:33:38PM -0700, Bill Nash wrote: > How often do people take the time to ask any given salescritter how they > came by contact info? I've done it, but if you've forced your way through my various filters and manage to get me on the phone and I ask you that, it's pretty m

Re: OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Scott Weeks wrote: > I would suggest that no one should buy from vendors who get email > addresses from NANOG or other technical mailing lists. It will only > encourage them to do it more and ruin the value of the mailing list in > question. > > You

OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel

price, good service and boom, I've found a new vendor. -- I would suggest that no one should buy from vendors who get email addresses from NANOG or other technical mailing lists. It will only encourage them to do it more and ruin the value of the mailing

Re: Verizon has been listening to nanog.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:58:13AM -0400, Henry Yen wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:29:54AM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > On 10/23/07, Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm > > >> > > >>20 Mbps down, 20 Mbp

Re: Verizon has been listening to nanog.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:29:54AM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote: > > On 10/23/07, Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm > >> > >>20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65. > > > > > > That's pretty sweet, now al

Re: Verizon has been listening to nanog.

Hex Star wrote: On 10/23/07, Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm 20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65. That's pretty sweet, now all they have to do is start laying the fiber over here... And stop

Re: Verizon has been listening to nanog.

On 10/23/07, Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm > > 20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65. That's pretty sweet, now all they have to do is start laying the fiber over here...

Re: Verizon has been listening to nanog.

Edward A. Trdina III wrote: > I wonder if they will permit BGP announcements from the business grade > FIOS service? Does anyone know? man tun|tinc|openvpn|*swan|ipsec|... If they don't allow it and you can live with a few bytes of overhead per packet, nothing (except hard firewalling and doing

RE: Verizon has been listening to nanog.

. 150 West Street East Pittsburgh, PA 15112 Office (412)829-2201 x31 Cell(412)334-8000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leo Bicknell Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:59 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Verizon has been listening to nanog

Verizon has been listening to nanog.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm 20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65. Strangely enough it's where they compete with CableVisions 30Mbps down, 5Mbps up plan first. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http

NANOG Humour (Re: "2M today, 10M with no change in technology"? An informal survey.)

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Hex Star wrote: > On 8/27/07, Justin M. Streiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I thought it was just a 6500 that sommeone got drunk and tipped over on > > > it's side, like a cow... > > > > > > > > http://farm.tucows.com/images/2006/07/cow_tipping.jpg :D While

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Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

or is the problem simply that there isn't a port or pkg or rpm of proxynet, and in spite of being 12 years old, nobody but me runs anything like it? (so, this boils down to, are folks only using proxies on outbound, still, in 2007?) ((and did you think squid was your only inbound proxyi

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

> As with all things, the trick is to weigh the risk of disaster against the > probability of benefit and do whatever makes sense within your own > particular constraints. is nobody using a host based solution to this? that is, are times when HA LB is needed for TCP (like video over http) also s

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

On 4-Jun-2007, at 02:03, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:53:52AM +, Paul Vixie wrote: ipv6 load balancers exist, one's current load balancer is/may probably not be up to the task. my favourite load balancer is OSPF ECMP, since there are no extra boxes, just the

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

> It depends on the length of those TCP sockets. If you were load-balancing > the increasingly common video-over-http, it would be very unacceptable. yes. i believe i said that my preferred approach works really well with UDP and marginally well with current WWW. video over http is an example o

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

Nathan Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The other mode would be to set up mail.ipv6.yahoo.com and have > customers use that for whatever protocol they send/receive mail with, > and not point an MX at an for the time being. Actually I would do it the other way around, adding to th

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

On 2-jun-2007, at 23:07, Donald Stahl wrote: The simplistic answer is that nearly all assigned/allocated blocks will be minimum-sized, which means ISPs will be capable of filtering deaggregates if they wish. Some folks have proposed allowing a few extra bits for routes with short AS_PATHs

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 07:29:03AM +, Paul Vixie wrote: > > If you're load-balancing N nodes, and 1 node dies, the distribution hash > > is re-calced and TCP sessions to all N are terminated simultaneously. > > i could just say that since i'm serving mostly UDP i don't care about this, > but

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

two replies here. i ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > quagga ospf6d works great, and currently lacks only a health check API. Donald Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> answered: > Health checks are unfortunately the most important aspect of a LB for some > people. understood. > Can you elaborate on where

Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fecha: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:58:37 -0700 > Para: John Curran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: Igor Gashinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Asunto: Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted > >

Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted

PALET MARTINEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: > Asunto: Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted > > What I guess have not been clear on is the fact that loadbalancers for > many people are an integral (and required) part of the *architecture* > (and not just somet

Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted

william(at)elan.net wrote: . I suppose, but certain places like Mozilla, would be dead in the water without load balancers. Citrix got their act together and shipped 8.0 with v6 vips on the front talking to v4 servers on the backend. While I understand that some place may want to put pol

Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, matthew zeier wrote: John Curran wrote: Best of luck with it; load-balancers aren't generally hiding in ISP's backbones and it hasn't been major revenue for the traditional router crowd. Net result is there hasn't been much IPv6 attention in that market... I suppose,

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:53:52AM +, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > ipv6 load balancers exist, one's current load balancer is/may probably > > not be up to the task. > > my favourite load balancer is OSPF ECMP, since there are no extra boxes, > just the routers and switches and hosts i'd have to h

Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted

John Curran wrote: Best of luck with it; load-balancers aren't generally hiding in ISP's backbones and it hasn't been major revenue for the traditional router crowd. Net result is there hasn't been much IPv6 attention in that market... I suppose, but certain places like Mozilla, would be

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

my favourite load balancer is OSPF ECMP, since there are no extra boxes, just the routers and switches and hosts i'd have to have anyway. quagga ospf6d works great, and currently lacks only a health check API. Health checks are unfortunately the most important aspect of a LB for some people.

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

> ipv6 load balancers exist, one's current load balancer is/may probably > not be up to the task. my favourite load balancer is OSPF ECMP, since there are no extra boxes, just the routers and switches and hosts i'd have to have anyway. quagga ospf6d works great, and currently lacks only a health

Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted

At 7:16 PM -0400 6/3/07, Igor Gashinsky wrote: >Again, we are working on it, Good to know... >it is much harder then it seems, my views are >my own, I'm not in any way speaking for my employer, ... Best of luck with it; load-balancers aren't generally hiding in ISP's backbones and it hasn't bee

Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted

> Fecha: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 23:01:57 +0100 :: > Para: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :: > Conversación: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted :: > Asunto: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted :: > :: > :: > :: >> Without naming any vendors, quite a

Peering [EMAIL PROTECTED] BOF XV at NANOG 40 in Bellevue

[ If you are NOT ATTENDING this NANOG in Bellevue, please disregard ] We have some time at this Peering BOF XV for some Peering Coordinator introductions. This is a chance for Peering Coordinators to introduce themselves to the group before we break for beers. How does this work? We solicit

Re: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted

> De: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fecha: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 23:01:57 +0100 > Para: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Conversación: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted > Asunto: IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted >

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

[Update to earlier stats: The current v4 prefix/AS ratio is 8.7. However, there are ~11k ASes only announcing a single v4 route, so that means the other ~14k ASes are at a v4 ratio of 14.3. In contrast, the current v6 ratio is 1.1 and the deaggregate rate is 1.2%.] This is more than a little

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

must be the weekend, i'm posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > i wish that the community had the means to do revenue sharing with such > > folks. carrying someone else's TE routes is a global cost for a point > > benefit. > > There are lessons to be learned from the CO2 emissions trade industry. I >

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

Paul Vixie wrote: i wish that the community had the means to do revenue sharing with such folks. carrying someone else's TE routes is a global cost for a point benefit. There are lessons to be learned from the CO2 emissions trade industry. I don't think it's really any different since the

Re: NAT Multihoming (was:Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted)

> Cisco has a whitepaper entitled "Enabling Enterprise Multihoming with Cisco > IOS NAT" that addresses this. See > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_white_paper09186a0080091c8a.shtml > as well as RFC2260. see also . > There are in

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

> > how much of the v4 prefix count is de-aggregation for te or by TWits? > > why won't they do this in v6? > > you mean like: > > AS4755 > AS4134 > AS18566 > AS4323 > AS9498 > AS6478 > AS11492 > AS22773 > AS8151 > AS19262 > AS6197 > > I'm sure they

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

Kradorex Xeron wrote: > On Saturday 02 June 2007 01:09, Chris L. Morrow wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Randy Bush wrote: > how much of the v4 prefix count is de-aggregation for te or by TWits? > why won't they do this in v6? wee, lookie! redistribute connected >>> whee! lookie! minds

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

On Saturday 02 June 2007 01:09, Chris L. Morrow wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Randy Bush wrote: > > >> how much of the v4 prefix count is de-aggregation for te or by TWits? > > >> why won't they do this in v6? > > > > > > wee, lookie! redistribute connected > > > > whee! lookie! minds disconnecte

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

Thus spake "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the average number of v4 prefixes per AS is ~10, and it's rising. In v6, the goal is that every PI site can use a single prefix**, meaning the v6 routing table will be at least one (and two or even three eventually) orders of magnitude smaller than th

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

Randy Bush wrote: >> the average number of v4 prefixes per AS is ~10, and it's rising. In >> v6, the goal is that every PI site can use a single prefix**, meaning >> the v6 routing table will be at least one (and two or even three >> eventually) orders of magnitude smaller than the v4 one. > > h

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Randy Bush wrote: > >> how much of the v4 prefix count is de-aggregation for te or by TWits? > >> why won't they do this in v6? > > wee, lookie! redistribute connected > > whee! lookie! minds disconnected, at least from public good. Yes :( sadly I suspect that is not the

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

>> how much of the v4 prefix count is de-aggregation for te or by TWits? >> why won't they do this in v6? > wee, lookie! redistribute connected whee! lookie! minds disconnected, at least from public good.

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Randy Bush wrote: > > > the average number of v4 prefixes per AS is ~10, and it's rising. In > > v6, the goal is that every PI site can use a single prefix**, meaning > > the v6 routing table will be at least one (and two or even three > > eventually) orders of magnitude sm

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

> the average number of v4 prefixes per AS is ~10, and it's rising. In > v6, the goal is that every PI site can use a single prefix**, meaning > the v6 routing table will be at least one (and two or even three > eventually) orders of magnitude smaller than the v4 one. how much of the v4 prefix c

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