Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-11 Thread Dan Hollis
I suspect arduino herd will migrate to esp82xx, not msp430. -Dan On Tue, 11 Oct 2016, John Rehwinkel wrote: Well, regarding to the love the MSP430s get, I suspect that as soon as Microchip starts discontinuing the AVRs, the Arduino herd will have to migrate to greener pastures, and I think

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-11 Thread John Rehwinkel
> Thansk for your thoughts, Greg. The final choice of processor is probably > going to be influnced more by software development (and learning curve) that > the hardware costs, given that I doubt I'll make even 50 of the finished NDMM > (as it will henceforth be known). I can crash about a bit

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-11 Thread Laurence Wilkins
Thansk for your thoughts, Greg. The final choice of processor is probably going to be influnced more by software development (and learning curve) that the hardware costs, given that I doubt I'll make even 50 of the finished NDMM (as it will henceforth be known). I can crash about a bit in

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-11 Thread John Rehwinkel
> Well, regarding to the love the MSP430s get, I suspect that as soon as > Microchip starts discontinuing the AVRs, the Arduino herd will have to > migrate to greener pastures, and I think that's where the MSP430's are. You're probably right. There's already the Energia port of the Arduino IDE

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-09 Thread NeonJohn
The C2000 LaunchPad works fine under Linux. Since it looks like the MPS432 uses the same interface, I should think it would work as well. I use gtkterm as my terminal program. Like you, here the W word is a profanity, never to be uttered out loud. John On 10/09/2016 11:06 AM, gregebert

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-09 Thread Nick
I think you mean the MSP430, not the 432 - the 432 is very new. I've never had any issues with serial comms on any launchpad and I've been using them since day 1 - maybe it's just your system or a duff launchpad, though I've never heard of one of those failing either. I use mainly Windows, but

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-09 Thread gregebert
I gave the MSP432 (Launchpad) a try when it first came out; must have been about 3 years ago. I was unable to get reliable communication (characters randomly got dropped) thru the USB port on a Linux platform, so I put it in the junkbox. The $12 price was irresistible. If any of you are

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-09 Thread Nick
I've been using MSP43xs for a few years now - they are simply lovely. The Launchpads are great, fully functional, boards and as has been mentioned, they have a complete programming system built in. MSP430s area have a 16-bit ultra-low-power proprietary core; MSP432s are low-power, faster,

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread John Rehwinkel
> Upvote here for the TI MSP43x series. > > The new ones, the 432s, run at 13 microamp per MHz. Very easy to programming > (C++) using free IDE. Development boards (aka "launchpads") cost just a few > USD. Lovely chips... The "Spy-bi-wire" programming only uses two signals (and pins) and

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread Nick
Upvote here for the TI MSP43x series. The new ones, the 432s, run at 13 microamp per MHz. Very easy to programming (C++) using free IDE. Development boards (aka "launchpads") cost just a few USD. Lovely chips... Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread John Rehwinkel
> It's a classic tradeoff regarding RasPi vs Arduino vs FPGA. Everyone has > different pain-points for cost, power, boot-time, features, development > effort, etc. Quite true. > Maybe Aduino is a better option; I'm going that route for my next clock > project. If you plan your design, you can

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread David Forbes
I think you would be bonkers to run an OS in a voltmeter. I have removed the OSes from many of our telescope's embedded computers, because software updates are the last thing you want to have to do in a machine. A standard AVR 32U4 processor as used in an Arduino Leonardo is plenty of

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread gregebert
It's a classic tradeoff regarding RasPi vs Arduino vs FPGA. Everyone has different pain-points for cost, power, boot-time, features, development effort, etc. Maybe Aduino is a better option; I'm going that route for my next clock project. If you plan your design, you can add various shields

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread Laurence Wilkins
Thanks for your interest, I'll keep you posted! On Friday, 7 October 2016 20:44:53 UTC+1, Nortonian wrote: > > Greetings Nixiers, > > Laurence, i think it's a fabulous idea. I, too, have been thinking about > non-clock nixie projects, but hadn't thought of a modern bench meter. > Great idea!

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread Laurence Wilkins
Yes, my envisioned Nixie DMM will include a frequency counter, but not fancy period or averaging functions, not much beyond maybe 40MHz. On Saturday, 8 October 2016 16:11:05 UTC+1, Jonathan wrote: > > I too have as many clocks as I need, although I haven't made as many as > you. I have a

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread Laurence Wilkins
Thanks for your note. Well, you can buy "front end" DMM chips that just do the measuring with no built in display, but some serial I/O to a processor/display/keyboard combo. That's my route. Not settled on the processor, yet. I also play with Raspberry Pis, and while I might use one for early

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread Laurence Wilkins
Thaks for your reply, William. Yeah, well, it costs a lot (before I consider any return for my time!). This is my concern - if the market fo rthe price I need to charge isn't there, I don't have a project, after all... On Friday, 7 October 2016 20:07:56 UTC+1, William Lee wrote: > > I would

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-08 Thread Jonathan Peakall
I too have as many clocks as I need, although I haven't made as many as you. I have a kitchen timer, an indoor outdoor thermometer (pixies) and a hot tub temp. display. I have an HP VOM that I have been meaning to fix. I have been planning to make a frequency counter. In my case I would use

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-07 Thread David Forbes
Laurence, I like the way you think! I might go for a new Nixie bench meter of that caliber. The Fluke 8200A, with autoranging added, would be an excellent starting point for aesthetics. It would want to be 4 inches deep instead of 14, of course. But you defintely would have my interest if

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-07 Thread gregebert
Yeah, that's a project I've thought about, but my conclusion was that the DMM chips were all intended for direct-drive LCD, or perhaps LED. I get stuck in an endless loop of trying to justify building something really interesting that wont get used very much vs adding features that would be

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-07 Thread Samuel G. Guss
Greetings Nixiers, Laurence, i think it's a fabulous idea. I, too, have been thinking about non-clock nixie projects, but hadn't thought of a modern bench meter. Great idea! To those like Dylan (and me) who are a little nervous about the pricing, i suggest starting a NMM fund *now*. Less than

Re: [neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-07 Thread Dylan Distasio
I would love one, and applaud the idea, but that price point will put it out of range for me. On Oct 7, 2016 3:02 PM, "Laurence Wilkins" wrote: > Over almost the last ten years, I have been designing, producing and > selling a variety of logic and PIC Micro-controlled nixie

[neonixie-l] NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-07 Thread Laurence Wilkins
Over almost the last ten years, I have been designing, producing and selling a variety of logic and PIC Micro-controlled nixie clocks, from classic 2x3 mux 74141-based designs to multiplexed and direct drive IN18 monsters, to miniature desk clocks and single digit weirdness. I feel I've

[neonixie-l] Re: Another Nixie Clock on eBay

2010-11-02 Thread Jens Boos
I have noticed several of these clocks appear on eBay latey. They look really neat, but I certainly do NOT like the led time zone indication. What is that please? Why not use neon bulbs for that? This particular model shows up from time to time. It was one of the few nixie clocks actually made

[neonixie-l] Re: Another Nixie Clock on eBay

2010-11-02 Thread Jens Boos
How do you know that, do you have suck a clock? If so, I wonder how the mechanism for changing the time zones works. And it was intended for this to spell do you have SUCH a clock, I did not mean to call you a clock sucker, even though it is Nixie tubes in there ;-) Jens -- You received

[neonixie-l] Re: Another Nixie Clock on eBay

2010-11-02 Thread Joseph Bento
On Nov 2, 11:53 am, Jens Boos webmas...@jb-electronics.de wrote: And it was intended for this to spell do you have SUCH a clock, I did not mean to call you a clock sucker, even though it is Nixie tubes in there ;-) Jens Never read this group whilst drinking a Coke (or any other beverage).