Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What type of tubing / valves are used in vacuum and de-gassing, gas population experiments?

2023-08-28 Thread Mac Doktor
> On Aug 28, 2023, at 1:56 PM, gregebert wrote: > > I did a lot of research about 15 years ago when I was thinking about doing > neon art. There are 3 really good books (The Neon Engineer's Notebook, Neon > Techniques, and The Neon Superguide) and I recommend you read all 3 > cover-to-cover.

[neonixie-l] Re: What type of tubing / valves are used in vacuum and de-gassing, gas population experiments?

2023-08-28 Thread gregebert
The only gauge I can think of would be a standard "U" gauge (manometer), but that is only practical down to a few millibars with mercury. Maybe there are some exotic liquids with low vapor pressure that might work a bit lower, but I doubt anything exists that would get you into the micron

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What type of tubing / valves are used in vacuum and de-gassing, gas population experiments?

2023-08-28 Thread liam bartosiewicz
I’ve read somewhere that people have had reasonable success in making Nixie tubes with just a dual stage rotary vane pump, so it may be worth giving that a shot before spending loads of money on a diffusion/turbomolecular pump, controller and pirrani/ionization gauges. Check out this website here: 

[neonixie-l] Re: What type of tubing / valves are used in vacuum and de-gassing, gas population experiments?

2023-08-28 Thread Miles Thatch
Actually there was something else I was wondering about. Is there such a thing as an accurate vacuum gauge which you can just drop into a chamber instead of connecting to the valve / air line of the pump? Conceivably it's something that has it's own sealed air container and would detect the

[neonixie-l] Re: What type of tubing / valves are used in vacuum and de-gassing, gas population experiments?

2023-08-28 Thread Miles Thatch
Thanks for the read references. I know this group has a shared drive with some reading material. Maybe I can find some of these there. I'm primarily interested in making a few special character display nixies like the in-12 tubes. More experimentation than anything. I've seen a gent on

[neonixie-l] Re: What type of tubing / valves are used in vacuum and de-gassing, gas population experiments?

2023-08-28 Thread gregebert
I did a lot of research about 15 years ago when I was thinking about doing neon art. There are 3 really good books (The Neon Engineer's Notebook, Neon Techniques, and The Neon Superguide) and I recommend you read all 3 cover-to-cover. Though not particularly for nixies, there is a lot of good

[neonixie-l] Re: What will happen if current slightly below specification in long time?

2023-01-16 Thread jf...@my-deja.com
This may not apply to other tube types, but my 3 clocks built with 6 x B7971s were MUXd at about 2 kHz, and they all produced enough acoustic noise to be annoying in a quiet room, and RFI audible over the entire AM band that was detectable on my transistor radio to about 20 feet. The clock

[neonixie-l] Re: What will happen if current slightly below specification in long time?

2023-01-15 Thread overdoingism Lab.
Thanks for the information, they are very helpful. :) Christian Riise Wagner 在 2023年1月15日 星期日下午5:45:03 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道: > The voltage across the tube starts high, while the tube impedance is high, > before the gas discharge has been established. The current then rises > relatively slowly, while

[neonixie-l] Re: What will happen if current slightly below specification in long time?

2023-01-15 Thread Christian Riise Wagner
The voltage across the tube starts high, while the tube impedance is high, before the gas discharge has been established. The current then rises relatively slowly, while the voltage drops at a proportional rate due to the anode resistor. Threeneuron has an excellent page on driving nixies

[neonixie-l] Re: What will happen if current slightly below specification in long time?

2023-01-14 Thread overdoingism Lab.
For the following reasons: 1. High voltage swing PWM, I am afraid it will cause EMI interference. 2. As far as I know, the impedance has a sharp change during the lighting moment. (As arc discharge?) PWM driving may mean more heat generation, more aging and wear? I'm not sure. 3. If you want

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What will happen if current slightly below specification in long time?

2023-01-14 Thread Nicholas Stock
I've made a number of Tubehobby's IN14 clock kits over the years as gifts for friends and family. They're multiplexed IN14 clocks. No audible problem and the clocks are still working well after 12 years. The only complaint is those damn IN3's and their tendency to ionize all over the place! 

[neonixie-l] Re: What will happen if current slightly below specification in long time?

2023-01-14 Thread gregebert
I've seen a few postings about audible noise coming from tubes that use PWM. I use direct-drive and constant-current. On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-8 Christian Riise Wagner wrote: > Out of curiosity, why doesn't PWM sound like a good idea? There isn't > really an alternative,

[neonixie-l] Re: What will happen if current slightly below specification in long time?

2023-01-14 Thread Christian Riise Wagner
Out of curiosity, why doesn't PWM sound like a good idea? There isn't really an alternative, other than lowering the current, which you don't seem too fond of either. I'd say PWM is the easier method. Just choose a sufficiently high frequency to avoid noticeable flickering. Note that the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What a bargain!

2022-12-19 Thread 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l
In this case you are the root cause of his prices :D On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 6:15:18 PM UTC+2 Pramanicin wrote: > Patrick is notoriously expensive. I remember buying some tubes from his > website a long time ago and as soon as I had he doubled the price... > > — > Nicholas Stock >

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What a bargain!

2022-12-19 Thread Nicholas Stock
Patrick is notoriously expensive. I remember buying some tubes from his website a long time ago and as soon as I had he doubled the price... — Nicholas Stock --- original message --- On December 19, 2022 at 6:57 AM PST bogdanpadur...@yahoo.com wrote: the guy has others too

[neonixie-l] Re: What a bargain!

2022-12-19 Thread 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l
the guy has others too https://www.ebay.com/itm/115643362357?hash=item1aece1ac35:g:Y9oAAOSw~NhjoCa9 but this 6 digit pixie is rather interesting Any one knows the exact part number of this item? On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:21:34 PM UTC+2 nickja...@gmail.com wrote: > >

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: what is that CRT-like tube?

2022-06-05 Thread Dekatron42
My first thought was that it could have been use for electron microscopy, either as the main beam or as an extra beam used for projecting text onto the screen you see the object in where you also can see magnification and voltages/currents and also onto the hard copy film. I got to know a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: what is that CRT-like tube?

2022-06-04 Thread Marcin Adamski
x-ray tube was my initial thought too - the first 2 pics. But the 3-rd and 4-th pic show how long this tube is. Plus the 3 'guns': They really look like electron guns, with Wehnelt and focusing. Have you seen cathodes like this on x-ray tube? And three of them? I don't think it could be a

[neonixie-l] Re: what is that CRT-like tube?

2022-06-04 Thread Alex
My vote is that this is not designed as a display device, the business end looks like it has ceramic donuts around it, possibly for heat dissipation, so it could a source device (high freq signal / microwave). Could be a Beryllium window at the end so could even be an X-Ray emitter but the rest

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is going on?

2021-09-17 Thread Audrey
Yeah. I prefer the tip, it shows off more that it's yknow, a tube. On Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 5:28 PM liam bartosiewicz wrote: > Yup, it’s really quite unfortunate. I don’t understand why someone would > buy a flat-topped NL-5440 for 5x the price of one with a tip. > > On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:10 PM,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is going on?

2021-09-17 Thread liam bartosiewicz
Yup, it’s really quite unfortunate. I don’t understand why someone would buy a flat-topped NL-5440 for 5x the price of one with a tip. > On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Audrey wrote: > >  > I am a collector, it is obscene... > >> On Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 5:00 PM Yohan Park wrote: >> We're at the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is going on?

2021-09-17 Thread Audrey
I am a collector, it is obscene... On Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 5:00 PM Yohan Park wrote: > We're at the point where old tubes are getting more expensive than brand > new (and WAY bigger) tubes. > It's getting into collector's territory, not love for Nixies. > If you're into it for the love Nixie

[neonixie-l] Re: What is going on?

2021-09-17 Thread Yohan Park
We're at the point where old tubes are getting more expensive than brand new (and WAY bigger) tubes. It's getting into collector's territory, not love for Nixies. If you're into it for the love Nixie tubes and neon, count yourself lucky we have people like Dalibor around. If you're a collector,

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: What is going on?

2021-09-07 Thread Jeff Walton
it...  Jeff  Original message From: Dekatron42 Date: 9/7/21 10:53 AM (GMT-06:00) To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: What is going on? Maybe someone won the lottery big time or they know something we don't?Perhaps they come with the fountain of youth or the answer

[neonixie-l] Re: What is going on?

2021-09-07 Thread Dekatron42
Maybe someone won the lottery big time or they know something we don't? Perhaps they come with the fountain of youth or the answer to the question "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?" It's crazy! I've actually been contemplating if I should sell of a bunch of my rarer Nixies, saw

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is a fair price for IN-14's nowadays?

2021-07-01 Thread ZY
I might have to bite the bullet and shell out for a set of IN-14s and a couple IN-18s to make another set of clocks. What's the next tube down the line in terms of similar digit size and lifespan? I would assume the IN-12 is a cheaper alternative to IN-14 if you can deal with the top-down

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is a fair price for IN-14's nowadays?

2021-06-30 Thread Richard Scales
Nick, if you get there, same message to 2010 Richard please In recent years I bought a box of 25 x IN-18 for £725 delivered to the UK, that was a bit of a stretch for me at the time. If I knew then what I know now - I would have stretched a little further I think. - Richard On

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is a fair price for IN-14's nowadays?

2021-06-30 Thread Audrey
I've heard end-view and side-view in tube datasheets, I'm curious what you got those boxes of IN-18s for On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 4:14 PM Bill Notfaded wrote: > Nick- > > I did a little bit of that... but not nearly enough. I bought a sealed > box of OG-4 and A-101 dekatrons... just because I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is a fair price for IN-14's nowadays?

2021-06-30 Thread Bill Notfaded
Nick- I did a little bit of that... but not nearly enough. I bought a sealed box of OG-4 and A-101 dekatrons... just because I could. I also bought some full boxes of IN-12's. A few years ago I bought some full boxes of IN-18's but any full boxes now people want ridiculous money for. I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is a fair price for IN-14's nowadays?

2021-06-30 Thread Nicholas Stock
If people keep paying these prices, then sellers will keep charging them...clearly someone is paying these amounts (which kind of blows my mind), but such is supply and demand. As usual, I'm still kicking myself that I can't talk to circa 2010 Nick and say "hey, you may want to load up on some of

[neonixie-l] Re: What is a fair price for IN-14's nowadays?

2021-06-30 Thread Bill Notfaded
I'm afraid it's supply and demand and the supply must be getting low... Bill On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 12:04:16 AM UTC-7 ZY wrote: > I bought maybe 30-40 IN-14s a while back when they were going for a used > price of $2-2.5 per tube after including shipping. > > I finally used up most of

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Andrews
Well, I do have *one*, but then you have several GR10G, and I've only got one! On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 7:23:59 AM UTC-4, Bill Notfaded wrote: > > Somehow I should have known it was either you or Nick that had these tubes > Paul. I know you've created one of the neatest single tube

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-26 Thread Bill Notfaded
Somehow I should have known it was either you or Nick that had these tubes Paul. I know you've created one of the neatest single tube clock designs ever Paul! I love what you've done to display each individual tube. Really great stuff. Your design evolved into flexible system. I'm really in

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-26 Thread Paul Andrews
Gorgeous Nick. On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 8:10:48 PM UTC-4 Pramanicin wrote: > Like these? > > [image: IMG_6250.JPG] > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 5:03 PM Bill Notfaded wrote: > >> I absolutely agree Martin! They're so amazingly beautiful tubes and so >> unique in their appearance with the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-25 Thread Nicholas Stock
Thanks Bill. I'm fortunate to have gotten the nixie bug many moons ago. The dekatron clock is almost complete.:) Nick Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2020, at 17:31, Bill Notfaded wrote: > >  > You got it Nick!!! So great to see them! I knew they existed but just > hadn't seen them

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-25 Thread Bill Notfaded
I absolutely agree Martin! They're so amazingly beautiful tubes and so unique in their appearance with the views from any angle. Dalibor says he'd like to make some smaller tubes... I've heard someone got some special rz568M tubes he made without the solid background behind the cathodes. I

[neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-25 Thread Dekatron42
I just wish there was a simple and cheap way of refilling these GR10G with a gas mixture that would make them long-life Nixies. /Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-25 Thread Bill Notfaded
Excellent advice Martin! I knew someone here would have some real experience with these. Bill On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 6:18:30 AM UTC-7 Dekatron42 wrote: > That's the correct values. However they seem to work a little bit better > on 300V anode voltage with 18k anode resistor,

[neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-25 Thread Dekatron42
That's the correct values. However they seem to work a little bit better on 300V anode voltage with 18k anode resistor, possibly due to their aging. They also need some time to "wake up" when they have been stored for long, as with other gas filled tubes after long storage. /Martin -- You

[neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-25 Thread Bill Notfaded
Thanks Martin. I knew something was very different about these tubes. I had bought one a long time ago and when I hooked it up to 170V it seemed like the tube was bad at the time which was upsetting. Luckily I kept it! It wasn't until I learned more about them that I realized I wasn't

[neonixie-l] Re: what would you drive these ETL GR10G with?

2020-08-25 Thread Dekatron42
These need a higher Anode voltage (minimum 220V in some datasheets and 250V in some) to work properly and also cathode resistors on cathodes "1" and "7" to get correct current as the digits are not size corrected to get equal current compared to the other cathodes - you will destroy the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What Type of Booster DC-DC is this one?

2020-07-13 Thread gregebert
Not quite, but it's in the right direction. I suggest you find some research papers online about boost/flyback converters to understand the basic theory. Basically, switching converters have 2 modes: energy-storage and energy-release. They alternate between the 2 discrete modes; they are not

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What Type of Booster DC-DC is this one?

2020-07-13 Thread MrThe50sanchez
Hello! hahaha well, the main reason I want to see this working is generating high voltage, but, It would be so funny watching it catching fire! Yes, now I understand that the MOSFET must be on the reverse side, drain and source. Gregebert, Am I okay with this quote? *"To see the Booster

[neonixie-l] Re: What Type of Booster DC-DC is this one?

2020-07-12 Thread Nick
Boost converter without feedback. I often find that with a badly drawn schematic like this it often helps to redraw it in a sensible way. The free LTspice tool has a reasonable schematic editor that is useful for this sort of thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[neonixie-l] Re: What Type of Booster DC-DC is this one?

2020-07-11 Thread Christian Riise Wagner
I have to disagree with this being a flyback converter, as there is no transformer. It's simply a boost converter, albeit drawn in a quite confusing way. Although as gregebert said, it appears that the drain and source of the MOSFET (U1) have been reversed. The output including the gate drive

[neonixie-l] Re: What Type of Booster DC-DC is this one?

2020-07-11 Thread gregebert
Well, if the schematic symbol for U1 is correct, this will be a "catch-on-fire" inverter, because the internal diode of the MOSFET will create a complete circuit thru the battery and inductor, leading to high enough current to overheat the inductor or battery. Sarcasm aside, I think the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is this HV gadget?

2020-06-28 Thread alb.001 alb.001
just search on eBay for  portable neon tester  and you find the same item for around  $14 Pharma Phil -- Original Message -- From: Terry S Date: June 28, 2020 at 7:03 PM I have one, I bought it for testing neon sign tubes. I leave it in my

[neonixie-l] Re: What is this HV gadget?

2020-06-28 Thread Terry S
I have one, I bought it for testing neon sign tubes. I leave it in my car so I can grab bargain neons as soon as they pop up on CL. I tried it on nixies, It works, but I did somehow manage to blow the decimal points off a couple of IN-14's when using it. On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 3:32:54

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is this HV gadget?

2020-06-24 Thread Mac Doktor
> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Dekatron42 wrote: > > I think it is called "high frequency neon tester", google it and you'll se > some similar items. Bingo. It's a bit shabbier than the much more expensive handheld Tesla coil we used in neon school but the price is hard to beat. Ordered.

[neonixie-l] Re: What is this HV gadget?

2020-06-24 Thread gregebert
I assume it's high-voltage+high-frequency intended to ionize gas in a tube being tested for leaks. More convenient than lugging your plasma globe around at swap meets, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this

[neonixie-l] Re: What is this HV gadget?

2020-06-24 Thread Dekatron42
I think it is called "high frequency neon tester", google it and you'll se some similar items. /Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-08-07 Thread Dekatron42
Don't forget to ask the manufacturer if it can measure high capacitance MLCC capacitors if you are going to use that type of capacitor as they are a bit tricky to test. There are some explanations for this from the manufacturers, and this from Digikey:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-08-07 Thread Bill Notfaded
For many things that's alright but most meters like that only test at one set lower frequency... often 100Hz or less. The meter I posted is unique for the money because it can test in the high frequencies previously only expensive test gear would. For the reason why this and also frequencies

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-08-07 Thread Paul Andrews
I bought the meter he linked to. It is really quite amazing. You can connect the component being tested, to any of the leads in any orientation. It figures out what it is and which way round it is, then measures it. > On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:16 PM, Bill Notfaded wrote: > > Not as cheap but this

[neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-08-07 Thread Bill Notfaded
Not as cheap but this is the LCR meter I use and it's highly respected on the EEVBlog (one of my fav EE sites): https://www.deree.com.tw/de-5000-lcr-meter.html You can buy the bundle on ebay and amazon for around a C note. I picked a spare TL-21 and then hacked it to add longer kevin clip

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-20 Thread Remco
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[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-20 Thread Remco
Hi, Due to the size of the USB-C connector. And needing an extra long connector I did not choose to use the USB-C. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-20 Thread J Forbes
I love the slot head screws! :) > The only very small thing i dislike is the screws :D I would have put torx > or allen screws there ;) > > So...no USB-C connector available? That seems to me to be the only thing about the Cathode Corner watch you copied that's a bit iffy to me. -- You

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-20 Thread Nicholas Stock
Where are you located? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 06:45, Remco wrote: > > Does anyone know how to properly anodize aluminum I still want my case to get > anodized. > Cant find a company that will do one case only > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to

[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-20 Thread Remco
Does anyone know how to properly anodize aluminum I still want my case to get anodized. Cant find a company that will do one case only -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-20 Thread Remco
Does anyone know how to properly anodize aluminum I still want my case to get anodized. Cant find a company that will do one case only Op woensdag 17 juli 2019 15:19:33 UTC+2 schreef Remco: > > Hi guys, > > > The last year or so I was doing a hobby project of a nixiewatch. I was > wondering

[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-20 Thread Remco
Thank you I CNC milled the case out of aluminium and did the holes myself. It is hard to find screws this small. luckily is found these. Op zaterdag 20 juli 2019 15:09:12 UTC+2 schreef SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.: > > Amazing Work, very well made! How did u make the Case? > > The only very small

[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-20 Thread SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.
Amazing Work, very well made! How did u make the Case? The only very small thing i dislike is the screws :D I would have put torx or allen screws there ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-19 Thread Remco
Yes I did use the pico. The integrated flash and oscillator make it very handy for tiny products. Also you don't have to worry about EMC/EMI issues. Op donderdag 18 juli 2019 13:48:16 UTC+2 schreef Paul Andrews: > > From your description, it sounded like the esp32. I've started using that >

[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-18 Thread Paul Andrews
>From your description, it sounded like the esp32. I've started using that >myself. It's hard to beat on the features. Did you use the pico d4? That's >what I'm using. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-18 Thread Remco
Hi! I used the internal ULP of the ESP32 to do some stuff while the watch is sleeping. This ULP has a very basic set of instructions I found it easier to use a separate RTC wich holds the time much better with much more features and at a much lower voltage then the esp32 processor. > >> --

[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-18 Thread Remco
Thank you Paul! Because of all the features and being still an electronics student on school. I used an esp32 processor mainly for its ease of implementation and features. The esp32 will draw a bit more power then other processors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-18 Thread Remco
Thanks Kevin A. I used the z5900m because these were the smallest i could find. You are right! I can change the tubes easily but some changes have to be done on the layout of the PCB. Unfortunately I do not plan to share the design. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-17 Thread David Forbes
Nice set of features. The case looks awfully similar to my square Nixie watch. I guess that's where the design converges to. I'm still puzzled why other people need an RTC chip and a fast computer to make a Nixie watch. I can get excellent results from a PIC running at 32 kHz, keeping time in

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-17 Thread Nicholas Stock
Anybody done something similar with B4998 tubes? I know Jeff (RIP) was working on a wristwatch using them Nick On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:38 AM Paul Andrews wrote: > Amazing achievement. Having explored low power nixie tube applications > myself, I can appreciate just how hard it is to do

[neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-17 Thread Paul Andrews
Amazing achievement. Having explored low power nixie tube applications myself, I can appreciate just how hard it is to do something with very constrained requirements like this. I'm curious what processor you used? On Wednesday, July 17, 2019 at 9:19:33 AM UTC-4, Remco wrote: > > Hi guys, > > >

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What do you guys think of my homemade Nixiewatch?

2019-07-17 Thread Kevin A.
Very nice!!! To pull off the electrical design, fab and integrate it into an aesthetically pleasing watch design is no small feat. My only criticism of the z5900m is the coarse anode. In my opinion the previous style tube you used (Burroughs) with the fine mesh anode is much nicer to look at. But

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-13 Thread Paul Parry
Hi Dave, Yes it's a real Avo, I received a job lot of 50 of them all Ex-University / Collage, a lot of them toasted inside! I then CNC machine the dial plate to accommodate 4 Nixies. They convert really nicely. On Saturday, 13 July 2019 11:07:55 UTC+1, Dave Brown wrote: > > Paul > > The AVO

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-13 Thread Dave ZL3FJ
Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like? As I make Nixie things for a living, I have a rather nice building dedicated to the cause.. Caption above each photo to explain what's what.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neoni

[neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-10 Thread Dan Harboe Burer
martin martin, Yes HP counters, 19" voltmeters, and smaller voltmeters; all with nixie tubes.. I even have another HP counter hidden behind a stack of instruments somewhere in the garage... Dan søndag den 7. juli 2019 kl. 19.20.58 UTC+2 skrev martin martin: > > We all design and build clocks

SwissNixie Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-09 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 2019-07-09 2:24 p.m., SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote: this makes it easy to find a tube and also know exactly how many you have (left). Also it allows me to quickly check if i already own a tube when i see an action. One of my other hobbies is the interest in radiation and nuclear related

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What if....

2019-07-09 Thread MichaelB
Nice idea, Nick! On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 6:19:45 PM UTC-7, Pramanicin wrote: > > For anyone else who's interested in doing thishere are a few tips (and > photos). I used Pebeo Vitrail Glass Paint (transparent) in Crimson color, > diluted 4 parts paint, 1 part mineral spirits. (250 mL

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-09 Thread Jonathan Peakall
Very cool! I have a Predicta Holiday too, mahogany color. I watch it often, usually once a week or so. Nothing like a good film noir or a Twilight Zone on it. I'm not surprised that nixie fans would like old TV's too, hardly a stretch. I will admit that my Predicta was a bit of a bugger to

[neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-09 Thread martin martin
Dan, Are those HP Nixie freq counters in that stack of goodies? On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 10:20:58 AM UTC-7, martin martin wrote: > > We all design and build clocks until there's no more room in the house for > another one... then we make a new one! > What does your shop look like? Is it the

[neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-09 Thread Mark Moulding
This isn't it, but it looks very similar and I suspect it has essentially the same guts. Less than $25 including shipping - how can you lose? https://www.ebay.com/itm/323530347214 ~~ Mark Moulding On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 11:42:27 AM UTC-7, Paul Andrews wrote: > > Do you have a link to the

[neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-09 Thread Paul Andrews
Do you have a link to the little red box - I just blew up my cheap LC meter... On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 2:16:32 PM UTC-4, Mark Moulding wrote: > > Here are some photos showing the evolution of my bench over the years. > They also clearly illustrate the advancement in cell-phone camera >

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2019-07-08 Thread Nicholas Stock
6312 > > > > *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Nicholas Stock > *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2019 10:52 AM > *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like? > > > > Resp

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2019-07-08 Thread Paul Andrews
019 10:52 AM > To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like? > > Respect. I love those old TV setsgot quite enamoured with the old > 50’s/early 60’s German radiosno TV’s yet.may just have to get one to > show the ki

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-08 Thread Michail Wilson
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Stock Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 10:52 AM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like? Respect. I love those old TV setsgot quite enamoured with the old 50’s/early 60’s German radiosno TV’s yet.may

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-08 Thread Nicholas Stock
Respect. I love those old TV setsgot quite enamoured with the old 50’s/early 60’s German radiosno TV’s yet.may just have to get one to show the kids what it used to be like before the new-fangled LED’s...:) Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2019, at 10:00, Paul Andrews wrote: > > I

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-07-08 Thread Michail Wilson
@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J Forbes Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 11:50 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like? Time to do some work to this car, it's signed up to go on Drag Week in September. The electronics stuff doesn't take up

[neonixie-l] Re: What if....

2019-07-07 Thread martin martin
That's an excellent time viewer! On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 12:15:22 PM UTC-7, Pramanicin wrote: > > they’d put a red filter on them??? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[neonixie-l] Re: What if....

2019-07-07 Thread 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l
That's what I did: opaque black plexiglas for the sides and the ack, opaque white plexiglas for the top and bottom, and clear red for the front. It gives it a mid-20th century modern or Bauhaus look with the digits floating inside the box instead of a steam-punk look, and emphasizes its

[neonixie-l] Re: What if....

2019-07-07 Thread Dekatron42
A lot nicer looking than the bare ones in my opinion! /Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What a find!

2019-04-21 Thread SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.
Oh man, love that place! When i was on holiday in the USA 2017, i spent a afternoon in their shop. What an amazing place... nothing like that here in switzerland. The only thing that saved my bank account that day, was the fact that i've came with plane and could not take anything large and

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What a find!

2019-04-21 Thread martin martin
Yes Apex surplus in San Fernando I went through their stock. They have more than 25 more nixie devices left! Most of the prices are fair. I did see a lot voltmeters using the skinny little Burroughs 88xx series. They don’t have a useable website ... so you have to drive out there. Just don’t

[neonixie-l] Re: What a find!

2019-04-21 Thread SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.
Was this item found at Apex Surplus? :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an

[neonixie-l] Re: What is this connector called?

2018-09-26 Thread Terry S
Typically referred to as micro-grabbers. On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:14:05 PM UTC-5, Jens Boos wrote: > > Hello friends, > > I am currently setting up a new way of photographing Nixie tubes which > will hopefully result in better quality pictures. To that end, I am also > considering

[neonixie-l] Re: What is this 6209 G from sharp calculator?

2017-04-22 Thread Paul Andrews
On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is this 6209 G from sharp calculator?

2017-04-22 Thread Paul Andrews
It has connections to each of the cathodes. There are twelve cathodes for these tubes (CD80-P), so twelve pins are connected each to a different cathode (that might be 11. There is one trace that is difficult to follow). That leaves 8 pins on the device itself. Each cathode on a tube is

[neonixie-l] Re: What voltage/current to run tubes at

2017-02-08 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:50:59 AM UTC-8, kitehman wrote: > > > so i should shoot for just under the 2.5ma current rating and go for > lowest striking voltage? higher voltage for a brighter display? > Yes, I would aim at 2.5mA. Exact value +/- not critical. You will find, that once

[neonixie-l] Re: What voltage/current to run tubes at

2017-02-07 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
See what voltage you need for the tube to strike in a dark room. If you run the tubes at too low current, you risk cathode poisoning. It won't appear immediately, but takes time. Weeks or months. What you'll eventually see is only partial illumination of the digits. Positive neon ions hit the

[neonixie-l] Re: What voltage/current to run tubes at

2017-02-07 Thread 'kitehman' via neonixie-l
On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 12:42:22 PM UTC-9, Roddy Scott wrote: > > Dieter's http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-tubes.htm has data > sheets on all common tubes available. > > The data sheets > on this tube > recommend

[neonixie-l] Re: What voltage/current to run tubes at

2017-02-07 Thread Roddy Scott
Dieter's http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-tubes.htm has data sheets on all common tubes available. The data sheets on this tube recommend 2.5mA. Tubes should be operated within the values supplied otherwise you will have

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What did you build over the holidays?

2015-01-16 Thread Joe Croft
I worked (and am still working) on my Nixie tube thermostat for my heater. Though it will have 4 relays for controlling anything. I only have a heater (radiator), I am using a PID controller to regulate the temp. Cooling will just be a standard stupid algorithm, one tested by turning on and off a

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