[NetBehaviour] art and beauty :-)

2012-02-07 Thread Alan Sondheim
art and beauty :-) http://www.alansondheim.org/mon.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/mon1.jpg ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread Alan Sondheim
Simon, I appreciate what you're writing, but I do feel it's idealistic and nostalgic. Art is whatever it is, has already had problematic relations to money, control, and the corporate. I'm old enough to remember the 'classic days' of Soho NY and it wasn't any different. You get what you want

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread james
Money valuidates it. Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange -Original Message- From: isabel brison Sender: netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 21:29:42 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread isabel brison
Sadly, it all seems to be about money: if you're getting paid to do something you end up having to play by the rules of who pays, art market or state funding... if no-one's paying, you can do whatever you like, and call it whatever you like. On 7 February 2012 20:56, mez breeze wrote: > these da

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread mez breeze
these days i prefer 2 brand myself a "Creative" which is likewise a co-opted filthy_lucre_sheenesque label, but still 1 i prefer 2 "artist" #IsntThatSad]. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Simon Biggs wrote: > I can understand why some people don't want to call themselves artists, > even when they

[NetBehaviour] Chordpunch infoburst -> Algorithmic releases, remix competition, and live dates

2012-02-07 Thread Chord Punch
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Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread Ann Light
I'm seeing something else that's detrimental for the independent-minded artist in the last couple of years. Alternative patterns of engagement (and not just art pop-stars) have thrived in the smaller arts organisation/centre, where there has been a socially engaged agenda - whether digital art, or

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread james
Will reply as soon as I've fixed reinstalled linux. Will teach me to ignore warnings before updating my system. Cheers, james Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mail

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread Simon Biggs
Art has always had a difficult relationship with power. Its potential for corruption is nothing new (whether in religion or ideologies of various kinds - including capitalism). However, it is has become much harder to avoid the crap. There was a time (in the 70's and 80's) when artist run centre

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread Simon Mclennan
It would seem, that's the separation between Art and life - which is commonly understood to be so. By many people. Often I thought I might be doing art - then I realised that it was more like obsessive practice of mark making (chalking the streets with symbols derived from beetles for examp

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread isabel brison
I agree with your portrait of the artworld, but hasn't it always been a bit dodgy, ever since the days when art was almost exclusively religious propaganda? Not sure if the best way to deal with this is to drop the term "art" completely, or to just carry on doing it and perhaps ignore the artworld.

[NetBehaviour] // The Transparency Grenade //

2012-02-07 Thread info
// The Transparency Grenade // new project by Julian Oliver http://transparencygrenade.com/ one of 10 pieces in our Weise7 Studio exhibition at Labor Berlin, Haus der Kulturen der Welt: http://hkw.de/en/programm/2012/labor_berlin_2012/veranstaltungen_70133/veranstaltungsdetail_70070.php http:

[NetBehaviour] E-SCAPES: Artistic Explorations of Nature and Science, Leonardo

2012-02-07 Thread info
E-SCAPES: Artistic Explorations of Nature and Science, Leonardo Electronic Almanac, Volume 18 Issue 1, January 2012 Full catalog is available for download as a PDF here http://www.leoalmanac.org/index.php/lea/entry/e-scapes/ LEA Volume 18 Issue 1 is the exhibition catalog of E-SCAPES: Artistic Ex

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread Simon Biggs
I can understand why some people don't want to call themselves artists, even when they are. Mike Kelly, a very successful artist, was quoted as saying that if he'd known art was going to become as corporatised as it has he would never have chosen to be an artist (this quote has been viral on Twi

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread isabel brison
Hello, Just wondering why you choose not to call yourself an artist. Because the random stuff you post looks suspiciously like art to me... Isabel On 6 February 2012 15:04, James Morris wrote: > > Hi, > > I recently noticed that facebook warns people about links to my website > being maliciou

[NetBehaviour] ECM Series: NORBERT MÖSLANG / ERIKM at N.K. Projekt Rispondi Altro

2012-02-07 Thread Manuela Benetton
With apologies for cross-posting N.K.: Tuesday Feb 28th Doors 21:00 Concert 21:30 Sharp! *ECM Series: NORBERT MÖSLANG / ERIKM / DJ Pato* ***Curated by Manuela Benetton * *With the kind support of INM* * Norbert Möslang *is from St.Gallen, Switzerland. He plays cracked everyday electronics. Mösl

Re: [NetBehaviour] A couple videos from the new Super Art League!

2012-02-07 Thread Michael Szpakowski
wonderful! I particularly love the second one, both both are great... m Patrick - can we have QT copies for DVblog? From: "Lichty, Patrick" To: "netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org" Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] A couple videos fr

Re: [NetBehaviour] Good day good day

2012-02-07 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 20:54:54 +, ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: > Is that a Sansa Clip? Do you have Rockbox on it? http://rockbox.org/ :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/n

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:24:32 +, Mark Hancock wrote: > > technology/programming never really bothers me. In 'our' neck of the > art woods, it's the equivalent of having a chat about finding the > right shade of blue pigment and what a shame that local art stockist > doesn't allow you to use his m

[NetBehaviour] A couple videos from the new Super Art League!

2012-02-07 Thread Lichty, Patrick
Although Second Front is still around, another virtual performance group has formed, The Super Art League! We are superheroes in the DC Online Universe world doing performances and intervening while Brainiac digitizes the Earth! The Super Art League's "The Projector" (Patrick Lichty) performs

Re: [NetBehaviour] Hacking the Borders workshop at Goldsmiths Tue 14th Feb 2.30-4.30pm

2012-02-07 Thread Michael Szpakowski
I'm really sympathetic to this but I think there's a real danger that we end up fetishizing tech solutions at the expense of the political. For me, the task is both simply stated and difficult to carry out - winning the majority of people to their common interests across nationality/ethnicity and

[NetBehaviour] Hacking the Borders workshop at Goldsmiths Tue 14th Feb 2.30-4.30pm

2012-02-07 Thread dan mcquillan
hi i'm convening a Hacking the Borders workshop at Goldsmiths on Tuesday 14th Feb 2.30-4.30pm, as part of the NoBorders Convergence 2012 http://london.noborders.org.uk/convergence2012/workshopsandseminars. "This is a workshop on Hacking the Borders. We'll discuss different ways that digital techn

[NetBehaviour] Making Space: Slade Research Centre

2012-02-07 Thread info
Making Space Slade Research Centre, Woburn Square, London WC1H 0AB Exploring creative and research processes through dialogue, curation and exhibition. Investigating their intersection with psychoanalysis through conference. An event examining artistic process, organized by the Slade PhD program

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread mez breeze
james stays. #ThatIsAll. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Mark Hancock wrote: > I think it's perfectly fine what you're doing James. I'm not an artist or > academic either but I enjoy the Netbehaviour neighbourhood and most things > posted here. The occasional link or discussion to technology/prog

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread Michael Szpakowski
You're a key figure here James, part of what makes the netbehaviour landscape what it is and such a pleasure... I always read what you write. It would be a poorer, paler place without you ( and without your forthrightness!) michael From: Mark Hancock To: Net

Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Hancock
I think it's perfectly fine what you're doing James. I'm not an artist or academic either but I enjoy the Netbehaviour neighbourhood and most things posted here. The occasional link or discussion to technology/programming never really bothers me. In 'our' neck of the art woods, it's the equivale