Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

Alexander Clemm wrote: > +1 to (2) as preference, followed by (1). I don't think (3) is needed > here. The purpose is to make this human-readable and provide readers > a good sense of the overall structure. The authoritative > specification is still the .yang

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-15.txt

Hi Mahesh, There is an error with the yangdump-pro: Error: Feature 'match-on-eth and match-on-ipv4' not found for if-feature statement ietf-access-control-l...@2018-01-16.yang:242.16: error(250): definition not found Error: Feature 'match-on-eth and match-on-ipv6' not found for

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 16:15 +, Robert Wilton wrote: > > On 16/01/2018 15:50, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Lou Berger wrote: > > > > > > On 1/16/2018 10:13 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > ... (trimming to topic) > > > > > > > > > > > rejectected by the WG multiple times.

[netmod] Rtgdir telechat review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8022bis-08.txt

Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-15.txt

This version of the drafts addresses comments received during the last run of the LC. We, the authors, believe that this document is ready for LC. > On Jan 16, 2018, at 7:11 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-14

I have reviewed the changes and they look good to me. Thanks, Sonal. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani < mjethanand...@gmail.com> wrote: > An updated version of the draft, along with changes to remove icmp-off > from the model, and updates to examples has been posted in the

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-15.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : Network Access Control List (ACL) YANG Data Model Authors : Mahesh Jethanandani

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

+1 to (2) as preference, followed by (1). I don't think (3) is needed here. The purpose is to make this human-readable and provide readers a good sense of the overall structure. The authoritative specification is still the .yang itself. Providing some guidance for how to represent the tree

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-19.txt

IMHO, if this module is supposed to be useful in practice, without requiring immediately proprietary augmentations, UDP needs to be supported. RFC 5424 also states that implementations SHOULD support a UDP transport per RFC 5426. Whether TCP support should be included is debatable because

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

On 01/16/2018 06:34 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: On 1/16/18 8:01 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: On 16/01/2018 15:40, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Vladimir Vassilev wrote: Does anyone else have an opinion on this?  I can see three alternatives:    1) allow any number of

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

On 1/16/18 8:01 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: > > > On 16/01/2018 15:40, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >> Vladimir Vassilev wrote: >> Does anyone else have an opinion on this?  I can see three >> alternatives: >> >>    1) allow any number of addtional spaces >>    2) allow any

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On 1/16/2018 11:15 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: On 16/01/2018 15:50, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Lou Berger wrote: On 1/16/2018 10:13 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: ... (trimming to topic) rejectected by the WG multiple times. FWIW there are drafts already with No at all. The

Re: [netmod] Reminder: WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

The current dicussion on the draft is not yet concluded. The WGLC will conclude when discussion of the editorial changes is complete. Thanks joel On 1/10/18 8:16 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: > Just a reminder given the date that this was posted. This last call is > expected to complete Monday

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-19.txt

Hi, ** Downref: Normative reference to an Historic RFC: RFC 6587 Kent: hmmm, what's going on here? This YANG module is providing an ability to configure the "tcp" transport, even though the IESG made that ability historic in 2012 (see IESG Note below). Searching online, it looks like

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

That's a fine idea, but ultimately we'll need to discuss/understand the impact to the other dependent drafts, including the two already with the IESG.  If you can look at those and comment now, that would be helpful. Lou On 1/16/2018 10:55 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: I propose that we update

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-19.txt

Clyde, This draft still isn't passing idnits. I provided the link to idnits previously, but here it is again: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits. Below is the idnits output for -19 with inlined comments. PS: I didn't also checked the other issues we're tracking, but will when we get past

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On 16/01/2018 15:50, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Lou Berger wrote: On 1/16/2018 10:13 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: ... (trimming to topic) rejectected by the WG multiple times. FWIW there are drafts already with No at all. The first and last time I proposed this was on 15

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

On 16/01/2018 15:40, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Vladimir Vassilev wrote: On 01/16/2018 11:56 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Vladimir Vassilev wrote: [...] There is also undocumented alignment space count function before that pyang uses to

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 10:34 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > > On 1/16/2018 10:13 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > ... (trimming to topic) > > > > > > > > > rejectected by the WG multiple times. FWIW there are drafts > > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No at

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

Lou Berger wrote: > > > On 1/16/2018 10:13 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > ... (trimming to topic) > rejectected by the WG multiple times. FWIW there are drafts already > with > >>> No at all. The first and last time I proposed this was on 15 December >

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On 1/16/2018 10:22 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: I think it is incumbent upon those revisiting past/closed WG decisions (in this case, inline schema being represented by YL) to argue why the decision needs to be revisited. I'm repeating my self: b/c the current solution doesn't work well with

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

On 1/16/2018 10:08 AM, Vladimir Vassilev wrote: 4. This bit I found confusing. I propose this change to unambiguously describe the current pyang format. OLD: *  for a leaf-list or list [] for a list's keys NEW: *  for a leaf-list or list without keys

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

Vladimir Vassilev wrote: > On 01/16/2018 11:56 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Vladimir Vassilev wrote: [...] > >> There is also undocumented alignment space count function before > >> that pyang uses to align the fields of child data

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On 1/16/2018 10:13 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: ... (trimming to topic) rejectected by the WG multiple times. FWIW there are drafts already with No at all. The first and last time I proposed this was on 15 December 2017: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/msg19753.html

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 16:13 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Lou Berger wrote: > > > > > > On 1/16/2018 8:50 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Lou Berger wrote: > > >> > > >> On January 16, 2018 8:24:42 AM Martin Bjorklund > > >> wrote: > >

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

On 16/01/2018 15:08, Vladimir Vassilev wrote: On 01/16/2018 11:56 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Vladimir Vassilev wrote: 4. This bit I found confusing. I propose this change to unambiguously describe the current pyang format. OLD:   *  for a leaf-list

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

Lou Berger wrote: > > > On 1/16/2018 8:50 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Lou Berger wrote: > >> > >> On January 16, 2018 8:24:42 AM Martin Bjorklund > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Lou Berger wrote: > Lada, > > >

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

On 01/16/2018 11:56 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Vladimir Vassilev wrote: Hi, I have reviewed and implemented (apart from schema mount specific functionality) draft-ietfetf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-04 and found the following issues: ==sec 2.6.  Node

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On 1/16/2018 8:50 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Lou Berger wrote: On January 16, 2018 8:24:42 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: Lou Berger wrote: Lada, On January 16, 2018 7:07:15 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On Tue,

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

Lou Berger wrote: > > > On January 16, 2018 8:24:42 AM Martin Bjorklund > wrote: > > > Lou Berger wrote: > >> Lada, > >> > >> > >> On January 16, 2018 7:07:15 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > >> > >> > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On 1/16/2018 7:41 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: On 16/01/2018 07:14, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Hi Lou, in my view, we should do the following two (significant) changes: 1. Instead of borrowing a grouping from ietf-yang-library and having a parallel list of mounted schemas, we should keep *all*

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On January 16, 2018 8:24:42 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: Lou Berger wrote: Lada, On January 16, 2018 7:07:15 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 06:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: >> Lada, >> >> It sounds like you are proposing

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

Lou Berger wrote: > Lada, > > > On January 16, 2018 7:07:15 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 06:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > >> Lada, > >> > >> It sounds like you are proposing in (1) a fairly significant change in > >> the > >> direction

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On 16/01/2018 07:14, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Hi Lou, in my view, we should do the following two (significant) changes: 1. Instead of borrowing a grouping from ietf-yang-library and having a parallel list of mounted schemas, we should keep *all* mounted schemas directly in the YANG library and

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 13:19 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Hi Lou, > > > > in my view, we should do the following two (significant) changes: > > > > 1. Instead of borrowing a grouping from ietf-yang-library and having > > a parallel list of mounted

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

Lada, On January 16, 2018 7:07:15 AM Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 06:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: Lada, It sounds like you are proposing in (1) a fairly significant change in the direction of the draft and in (2) a basic approach that has been It is no

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 06:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > > Lada, > > > > It sounds like you are proposing in (1) a fairly significant change in the > > direction of the draft and in (2) a basic approach that has been > > It is no change in direction, just

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Hi Lou, > > in my view, we should do the following two (significant) changes: > > 1. Instead of borrowing a grouping from ietf-yang-library and having > a parallel list of mounted schemas, we should keep *all* mounted > schemas directly in the YANG

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 06:30 -0500, Lou Berger wrote: > Lada, > > It sounds like you are proposing in (1) a fairly significant change in the > direction of the draft and in (2) a basic approach that has been It is no change in direction, just a simplification of the schema-describing state data.

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

Lada, It sounds like you are proposing in (1) a fairly significant change in the direction of the draft and in (2) a basic approach that has been rejectected by the WG multiple times. FWIW there are drafts already with the iesg that will need to be returned to their WGs if either change is

[netmod] YANG modules publication: what to focus on next?

Dear all, At the last IETF meeting, Alia, Deborah and I looked at the publication status of most YANG modules. Since that time, I've been keeping a summary of the situation. Let me share it with everybody. Before publishing YANG modules, we have two series of bottlenecks: - the YANG module

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

Vladimir Vassilev wrote: > Hi, > > I have reviewed and implemented (apart from schema mount specific > functionality) draft-ietfetf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-04 and found > the following issues: > > ==sec 2.6.  Node Representation== > > 1. To correctly reflect the

Re: [netmod] Reminder: WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

On 1/15/2018 4:48 PM, Robert Wilton wrote: OLD:     If the node is augmented into the tree from another module,     its name is printed as :. NEW:     If the node is augmented into the tree from another module,     its name is printed as :, where is the     prefix defined

Re: [netmod] WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

On 01/15/2018 09:41 PM, Vladimir Vassilev wrote: Hi, I have reviewed and implemented (apart from schema mount specific functionality) draft-ietfetf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-04 and found the following issues: ==sec 2.6.  Node Representation== 1. To correctly reflect the current pyang

Re: [netmod] Reminder: WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

Robert Wilton wrote: > > > On 15/01/2018 15:26, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Robert Wilton wrote: > >> Hi Martin, > >> > >> All OK with me except where I have further comments/questions inline > >> below: > >> > >> On 15/01/2018 14:39, Martin Bjorklund