RE: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-02 Thread Richard Urwin
Urwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 January 2004 19:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything) On Thursday 01 Jan 2004 4:58 pm, JoeHill wrote: BTW, anyone know how to set plain text only per contact in MS Outlook? Outhouse

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-02 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:45:48 - Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wrong. Your techs were right. A reply will use the same format as the original. Otherwise it uses the default format, changable only per message. One more reason why MS can go take a long walk on a short pier.

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-02 Thread Richard Urwin
On Friday 02 Jan 2004 3:19 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:45:48 - Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wrong. Your techs were right. A reply will use the same format as the original. Otherwise it uses the default format, changable only per message. One more reason

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 01 January 2004 03:25, E. Hines wrote: Yes, but, if the server can't read the timestamp correctly, it defaults to January 1, 1970. This happened to my mail sent to a friend's misconfigured UNIX box. The time stamp on all my mails was midnight, January 1, 1970 (unix rollover

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 31 December 2003 10:25 pm, E. Hines wrote: - Yes, but, if the server can't read the timestamp correctly, it defaults to - January 1, 1970. This happened to my mail sent to a friend's misconfigured - UNIX box. The time stamp on all my mails was midnight, January 1, 1970 (unix -

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:00:56 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - When kmial saves, does it just copy the file, or does it write what - it thinks the file is? - - You might do better to find the actual file that is in the kmail - directory. That might just give you the same

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 01 January 2004 15:59, JoeHill wrote: I don't know if this is related, but I've been getting a lot of HTML mail from the list, at least a few every day. Since I've been sending all HTML mail off as spam, I've seen a lot of stuff like this (very often it's a legit post, but with

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 01 January 2004 10:59 am, JoeHill wrote: - - I don't know if this is related, but I've been getting a lot of HTML mail from - the list, at least a few every day. Since I've been sending all HTML mail off as - spam, I've seen a lot of stuff like this (very often it's a legit post,

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread Charlie Mahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 01 January 2004 8:59 am, JoeHill wrote: whack I don't know if this is related, but I've been getting a lot of HTML mail from the list, at least a few every day. Since I've been sending all HTML mail off as spam, I've seen a lot of stuff

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 09:50:29 -0700 Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just received one of those too. An infected/owned Hotmail server? I thought they were still running BSD servers? Nope, I guess they decided infection was the better part of valour. g They seem to have switched to

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 01 Jan 2004 4:58 pm, JoeHill wrote: BTW, anyone know how to set plain text only per contact in MS Outlook? Outhouse Express has it, but the techs (I use that term loosely...) where my wife works say it can't be done in Outlook, it has to be done per compose :-\ I thought I had

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread Charlie Mahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 01 January 2004 12:10 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: On Thursday 01 Jan 2004 4:58 pm, JoeHill wrote: BTW, anyone know how to set plain text only per contact in MS Outlook? Outhouse Express has it, but the techs (I use that term loosely...)

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 19:10:04 + Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I had seen it in Outlook. There's a checkbox somewhere with Always send plain text to this contact or something. I'll CC this to myself at work and have a look tomorrow. Thanks d00d! -- JoeHill ++ ICQ #

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2004-01-01 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 12:15:07 -0700 Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it in the contact list/address book or whatever they're calling it? Seems a logical place but I haven't touched Outlook or O.E. for 4 years. That's what I thought, should be same as in OE, the wife couldn't find it

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-31 Thread Eric Huff
Here it is, saved out and copied here: From Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Status: R X-Status: N X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: Well, i guess that dosen't include me! It does look the same. The attachment shows up as blank on sylpheed, too,

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-31 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 31 December 2003 03:05 am, Eric Huff wrote: - I should have mentioned the reason, as Dark Lord had before: none - of the normal fields that we see are filled in. (subject, from, - to, etc) - - eric and did you guys notice the date/time on the one I forwarded to the list? 1969...

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-31 Thread Eric Huff
- I should have mentioned the reason, as Dark Lord had before: none- of the normal fields that we see are filled in. (subject, from,- to, etc) - - eric and did you guys notice the date/time on the one I forwarded to the list? 1969... freaky! Time travel! A lot of spam comes in that

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-31 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 31 December 2003 03:16 am, Eric Huff wrote: - Time travel! A lot of spam comes in that way (put's it at the top - of the list) - - Isn't 1969 zero on unix systems' clocks? - - eric Close. This is from Google: The Unix epoch is the representation of points in time as the number of

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-31 Thread E. Hines
On Wednesday 31 December 2003 12:14 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Wednesday 31 December 2003 03:05 am, Eric Huff wrote: - I should have mentioned the reason, as Dark Lord had before: none - of the normal fields that we see are filled in. (subject, from, - to, etc) - - eric and did you

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-30 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 29 December 2003 12:55 pm, Eric Huff wrote: - Does it look the same as the file in kmail's directory on the hard - drive? (i think it is in ~/Mail) Here it is, saved out and copied here: From Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mxsf30.cluster1.charter.net ([10.20.201.230])

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-30 Thread Eric Huff
- Does it look the same as the file in kmail's directory on the hard- drive? (i think it is in ~/Mail) Here it is, saved out and copied here: From Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mxsf30.cluster1.charter.net ([10.20.201.230]) by mtai03.charter.net

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-30 Thread Aron Smith
On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 22:08, Eric Huff wrote: - Does it look the same as the file in kmail's directory on the hard- drive? (i think it is in ~/Mail) Here it is, saved out and copied here: From Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mxsf30.cluster1.charter.net

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 28 December 2003 01:44 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: - I have seen this before. It resulted from a power outage while I was using - kmail and had read some messages and sent them to trash but not exited kmail. - When the power came back up the message list had a message label for some but -

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 28 December 2003 11:15 am, Eric Huff wrote: - - Which was the message you were talking about? I haven't - noticed any- blank ones in my kmail, but I'll check back if you - give me a clue.- - - Anne - - Argh, thought I had a copy lying around but I'll have to wait - until it

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 29 December 2003 14:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 28 December 2003 01:44 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: - I have seen this before. It resulted from a power outage while I was using - kmail and had read some messages and sent them to

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 29 December 2003 09:12 am, Anne Wilson wrote: - If it happens again, could you try Forward as an Attachment, so that - we can see the headers? - - Anne I'll try, but when you save an e-mail out as text, doesn't it include everything there? --

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 29 December 2003 14:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Monday 29 December 2003 09:12 am, Anne Wilson wrote: - If it happens again, could you try Forward as an Attachment, so that - we can see the headers? - - Anne I'll try, but when you

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 29 December 2003 09:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote: - I'm sure it does, DL. I saw your printout of it a few minutes after I - wrote this g. I'm waiting to see if anyone notices anything odd - about the headers. Did you edit them when you posted them here? - They look very different from a

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Eric Huff
Nope, no editing on my part. Under Kmail, across the bar where it says Subject SenderDate Size its all blank/unknown. Except for size, which ranges from 1.1 to 1.3kbs. There is nothing to read in Kmail at all. I can save that 1.1 to 1.3 kbs out as a text file, and you've seen

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 29 December 2003 11:33 am, Eric Huff wrote: - When kmial saves, does it just copy the file, or does it write what - it thinks the file is? - - You might do better to find the actual file that is in the kmail - directory. That might just give you the same thing, though... - - eric -

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-29 Thread Eric Huff
- You might do better to find the actual file that is in the kmail- directory. That might just give you the same thing, though...- Here is what it looks like after saving it out as text: snip Does it look the same as the file in kmail's directory on the hard drive? (i think it is in

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 27 December 2003 05:55 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: - Which was the message you were talking about? I haven't noticed any - blank ones in my kmail, but I'll check back if you give me a clue. - - Anne Argh, thought I had a copy lying around but I'll have to wait until it appears again.

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-28 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 28 December 2003 10:15 am, Eric Huff wrote: - Which was the message you were talking about? I haven't noticed any- blank ones in my kmail, but I'll check back if you give me a clue.- - Anne Argh, thought I had a copy lying around but I'll have to wait until it appears

Re: [newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 27 December 2003 20:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Saturday 27 December 2003 01:17 pm, Sharrea Day wrote: - On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:57, John Drouhard wrote: - On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:06:01 -0500 - - Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Anyone else getting these? I Kmails

[newbie] Odd e-mail (unknown everything)

2003-12-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Anyone else getting these? I Kmails fields for subject, sender, and date it has unknown and it appears empty. If you save it to disk, you get this: From Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mxsf13.cluster1.charter.net ([10.20.201.213]) by mtai05.charter.net