On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:01:30 +0200, Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 17:26, sda wrote:
[snippet]
Why are they asking for $ and not emphasizing what the benefits are? Why
are they giving away the ISO's for free rather than following SuSE's
successful
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 22:50, Dennis Myers wrote:
Mr. Rigby appears to be in marketing. That says it all. His mind set is
for the masses and that is the
same Mindset as M$. Feed them BS and as long as it has a pretty bow on it
and has been spayed with Deoderant it will sell like hot
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 17:26, sda wrote:
[snippet]
Why are they asking for $ and not emphasizing what the benefits are? Why
are they giving away the ISO's for free rather than following SuSE's
successful implementation of a preview non-installable iso? If they did
this alone, it would cut
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 07:26, sda opened a hailing frequency and
transmitted:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 01:11:19PM -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
If they're moving to a subscriber model, then why is it called a club
and not a subscription service? BTW are you talking offically and are
you an
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 10:12, sda wrote:
Well, I don't know what you call a troll where you come from, I've been
here for a couple of years [anyway], and I have offered support on these
lists from time to time and no, I'm not a troll, thank-you very much.
BTW you didn't address my statement
,
John.
- Original Message -
From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
OK enough pontification.
(1)
The fact is that your solution is untenable. The only assets a software
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 10:26, sda wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 01:11:19PM -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
I believe that Sridhar's point was that they are NOT holding out their
hands with a plea, they are moving to a subscription model of
business; seems to me that YOU are the one that's
AMEN! Sridhar
well said!
--
Mark
I suppose I should have a pithy saying here...
The brain reports all neurons busy processing sub-routines
are currently occupied. Retry your query in five minutes.
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 18:31, ed tharp wrote:
damn Jon, you are Certainly full of your self. CivilMe is one of those
that understand and make the company work.
Only a self sold salesman would be so damn blind to the real world to
make a statement that the only folks that count are
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 13:26, Damian wrote:
i knew sooner or later it would come down to this
come on, now. you can to better that that. if you just don't agree you
could stop the discussion period. neither of you are the ones that
decide this matter for Mandrakesoft so why should you
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 16:26, shane wrote:
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:11, Lyvim Xaphir opened a hailing frequency and
transmitted:
I agree totally. The entire exchange was repulsive, not to mention
horrible and slightly amusing. I move that the participants be strung up
and tortured
easy.
Cheers,
Him Again
- Original Message -
From: Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world
style
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:59:34 +1000
john rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED
EXACTLY ME MIND !
Thanks a lot Sridhar
Karine
On Monday 18 March 2002 10:19, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
You seem to be applying closed-source pricing policies to something that is
free (as in speech). Why would one pay $100 for a Mandrake server when the
source is free? Someone can compile
On Monday 18 March 2002 04:36, Sridhar Dhanapalan opened a hailing
frequency and transmitted:
One thing I don't understand is how people have interpreted
Mandrakesoft's request for people to join the Mandrake Club as a plea for
charity to keep an ailing company afloat. It is no such thing.
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 11:08, sda wrote:
Note that Mandrakesoft does have a donations page, which can be reached at
http://mandrakelinux.com/donations/. They have _not_ publicised this site in
their press release (in fact, it's been almost a year since they last mentioned
it), so it is
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 10:56, sda wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 08:19:15PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
You seem to be applying closed-source pricing policies to something that is free
(as in speech). Why would one pay $100 for a Mandrake server when the source is
free? Someone can
I have ADD, please keep your posts to 2 paragraphs or less. Sheesh.
Anyway, just being a dork. Thought I'd say I can't be bothered to read
all that. And I'm sure there are others here who agree.
Femme
john rigby wrote:
Hi Todd folks,
Explaining value:
How much money do you think
On Monday 18 March 2002 07:36, you wrote:
One thing I don't understand is how people have interpreted
Mandrakesoft's request for people to join the Mandrake Club as a plea for
charity to keep an ailing company afloat. It is no such thing. The
Mandrakesoft web page clearly shows Mandrake's
:19 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
You seem to be applying closed-source pricing policies to something that
is free
(as in speech). Why would one pay $100 for a Mandrake server when the
source is
free? Someone can compile this source code and bingo: free
john rigby wrote:
Hi Sridhar folks,
Unfortunately this whole thing is enough for me to almost rest my case!
Mandrake seems to be composed of nice people - Geeks one and all.
There are certainly no people from the hard world there.
This Company doesn't even have the excuse that its owners shot
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:41:03 -0700
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have ADD, please keep your posts to 2 paragraphs or less. Sheesh.
Anyway, just being a dork. Thought I'd say I can't be bothered to read
all that. And I'm sure there are others here who agree.
Femme
I agree!
On Monday 18 March 2002 20:54, you wrote:
john rigby wrote:
Hi Sridhar folks,
Unfortunately this whole thing is enough for me to almost rest my case!
Mandrake seems to be composed of nice people - Geeks one and all.
There are certainly no people from the hard world there.
This Company
On Monday 18 March 2002 19:50, Dennis Myers opened a hailing frequency and
transmitted:
john rigby wrote: way too much
Never mind about the pontification Civileme. Mr. Rigby appears to be in
marketing. That says it all.
lets just face that fact he 1) has no questions about mandrake or
Hello!
john rigby wrote:
[...]
BTW; FOR REAL NEWBIES:
NEITHER OF THE LINKS WORK IN SRIDHARS MESSAGE - JUST DROP OFF THE "( )"s
That must depend on what browser you use. Everything works fine here (with
Netscape
on Mandrak 8.1 and on MacOS 9 X).
Pascal
Want to buy your Pack or Services
On Monday 18 March 2002 20:15, Pascal opened a hailing frequency and
transmitted:
That must depend on what browser you use. Everything works fine here
(with Netscape
on Mandrak 8.1 and on MacOS 9 X).
and konq, and opera from kmail.
maybe it is just low quality MS programs that screw it
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 11:08, sda wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:36:50PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
One thing I don't understand is how people have interpreted Mandrakesoft's
request for people to join the Mandrake Club as a plea for charity to keep an
ailing company afloat. It is
On Sunday 17 March 2002 19:53, Todd Slater opened a hailing frequency and
transmitted:
But, if Mandrake called in PayPals services and said: $10 for the lot
by download in bits. NO FREEBIES, it would work.
I would never have downloaded and tried Mandrake if I had had to pay. I
was not
Hello!
shane wrote:
On Monday 18 March 2002 20:15, Pascal opened a hailing frequency and
transmitted:
That must depend on what browser you use. Everything works fine here
(with Netscape
on Mandrak 8.1 and on MacOS 9 X).
and konq, and opera from kmail.
maybe it is just low quality
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 23:15, Pascal wrote:
Hello!
john rigby wrote:
[...]
BTW; FOR REAL NEWBIES:
NEITHER OF THE LINKS WORK IN SRIDHARS MESSAGE - JUST DROP OFF THE ( )s
That must depend on what browser you use. Everything works fine here (with
Netscape
on Mandrak 8.1 and on
On Sunday 17 March 2002 15:53, Brian Parish opened a hailing frequency and
transmitted:
I have read lots of threads about the club memberships etc on this list
and find it very understandable that there are some diverse opinions on
this. Given that, isn't the best way to support the distro
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 18:53, Brian Parish wrote:
I have read lots of threads about the club memberships etc on this list
and find it very understandable that there are some diverse opinions on
this. Given that, isn't the best way to support the distro we like to
BUY it DIRECT from Mandrake.
- Original Message -
From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:53 AM
Subject: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
I have read lots of threads about the club memberships etc on this list
and find it very understandable that
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:59:34 +1000
john rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The very idea of charity is a repugnant thing when viewed intelligently.
Support aid is something else entirely.
But buying value!!
Could you explain this a little more?
snip
But, if
geeks
Jobs as tutors for hundreds of older Users.
It would all be so easy.
Cheers,
Him Again
- Original Message -
From: Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
On Mon
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:46:14 +1000
john rigby john rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But, 20 million at just $10 each = $200 million - with no distribution
costs.
20 million x 680, 1360, or 2040Mb ( 1, 2, or 3 disks ) = a whole lot of
money in bandwidth.
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