Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-13 Thread crak600
On Monday 08 September 2003 10:23 am, HaywireMac wrote: > On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 16:44:01 + > > crak600 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > well, currently all my mail is saved onto my /home partition, but > > every other document/file/picture/whatever i get e-mailed to me that i > > want to save, i s

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-10 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 10:55 pm, rikona wrote: > Hello robin, > > Sunday, September 7, 2003, 12:34:19 PM, you wrote: > >>Isn't it true that if you are "fully patched" (as painful as that > >>is) that these virus's don't get you? > > r> It can be very painful indeed. When I went home this sum

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 3:07 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Monday 08 September 2003 08:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > It works well if you know that you need to do it, but if you're > > there for the first time you don't find out until it's too late. > > I made that mistake the first time installed,

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-08 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 08 September 2003 08:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > It works well if you know that you need to do it, but if you're there > for the first time you don't find out until it's too late. I made > that mistake the first time installed, learned my lesson As much as I like the idea of the insta

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 1:29 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Monday 08 September 2003 07:39 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > if/when you ever had to reinstall Mandrake, you don't have to > > > format your /home partition, in fact there's no reason to at > > > all. > > > > Problem is that the default instal

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-08 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 08 September 2003 07:39 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 08 Sep 2003 11:23 am, HaywireMac wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 16:44:01 + > > > > crak600 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > well, currently all my mail is saved onto my /home partition, but > > > every other document/file/pic

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 11:23 am, HaywireMac wrote: > On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 16:44:01 + > > crak600 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > well, currently all my mail is saved onto my /home partition, but > > every other document/file/picture/whatever i get e-mailed to me > > that i want to save, i save it

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-08 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 08:39:39 +0100 Margot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Growl gently please Mac ;-) Something about that is oddly arousing... :-D > Some people don't have a choice - they may be working for > unenlightened employers and using the list from work, or maybe (like > me last year) th

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-08 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 16:44:01 + crak600 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > well, currently all my mail is saved onto my /home partition, but > every other document/file/picture/whatever i get e-mailed to me that i > want to save, i save it to my other hard drive, which is all FAT32. i > actually do

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 7:13 pm, crak600 wrote: > so here's a question about the viruses. does a router with a natural > firewall built in help out at all? i'm on cable and i run a 4 port > router, even though i only have one computer on it, and i only use > the router for the firewall protection,

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Margot
rikona wrote: Hello Margot, Sunday, September 7, 2003, 12:39:39 AM, you wrote: M> Some people don't have a choice - they may be working for M> unenlightened employers and using the list from work, or maybe M> (like me last year) they are using the list from an old (M$) PC M> while trying to get

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Merlin Zener
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 23:19, Eric Huff wrote: > > Hell, I go for a much more subtle approach. > > "How have you guys been standing up to Sobig and MSBlaster this > > week?... got any idea of what it's cost you? I sure am glad I don't > > have to worry about that, if you ever want to try out Linux,

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Eric Huff
> > I just want to make sure i understand this. > I was under the understanding that with out making regular payments to > BG's boys, it was against the law to understand what windows is doing? > Hah! That's true. :) -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Join the

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread crak600
so here's a question about the viruses. does a router with a natural firewall built in help out at all? i'm on cable and i run a 4 port router, even though i only have one computer on it, and i only use the router for the firewall protection, just to keep the hackers out. but since my IP addr

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Eric Huff
> a patched system will not proof you if someone on your system runs the > executable.. Yeah, of course. > patching a system only helps against works like blaster that do a > remote infection.. if someone double clicks an attachemnt, all bets > are off in windows. So in the case of sobig, it doe

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 5:19 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > > Hell, I go for a much more subtle approach. > > "How have you guys been standing up to Sobig and MSBlaster this > > week?... got any idea of what it's cost you? I sure am glad I don't > > have to worry about that, if you ever want to try out Linux

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 12:19, Eric Huff wrote: > > Hell, I go for a much more subtle approach. > > "How have you guys been standing up to Sobig and MSBlaster this > > week?... got any idea of what it's cost you? I sure am glad I don't > > have to worry about that, if you ever want to try out Linux,

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread crak600
On Sunday 07 September 2003 04:25 am, Marc wrote: > >Wrong. Rebooting into windoze would only cause a problem if you then > open the virus in a windoze email client or somehow transfered the virus to > your windoze partition > well, currently all my mail is saved onto my /home partition, but e

RE: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Frankie
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Huff >Sent: Monday, 8 September 2003 12:19 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] Viruses.. > > >> Hell, I go for a much more subtle approach. >> "How have you guys been standing up to Sobig and MSBlaster this >

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Eric Huff
> Hell, I go for a much more subtle approach. > "How have you guys been standing up to Sobig and MSBlaster this > week?... got any idea of what it's cost you? I sure am glad I don't > have to worry about that, if you ever want to try out Linux, let me > know, I have a set of CDs in the truck, I can

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 23:32, ed tharp wrote: > Hell, I go for a much more subtle approach. > "How have you guys been standing up to Sobig and MSBlaster this week?... > got any idea of what it's cost you? I sure am glad I don't have to worry > about that, if you ever want to try out Linux, let me k

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Michael Viron
One last point, the two e-mail addresses you mentioned, are most likely spoofed (since sobig.F spoofs the from address). Take a look at http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] sometime. Michael -- Michael Viron Core Systems Group Simple End User Linux At 06:32 P

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 07 September 2003 12:25 am, Marc wrote: >Wrong. Rebooting into windoze would only cause a problem if you then > open the virus in a windoze email client or somehow transfered the virus to > your windoze partition Heck Marc, anytime you boot into Windoze its a problem! :-) --

RE: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Frankie
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marc >Sent: Sunday, 7 September 2003 12:25 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] Viruses.. > > Wrong. Rebooting into windoze would only cause a problem if >yo

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-07 Thread Margot
HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 03:40:12 + crak600 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: so lemme get this straight, a ms-win virus could be picked up in linux, but then wouldn't do anything until you booted the computer back into windows, right? nope. you cannot pick up a virus in Linux. It w

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-06 Thread Marc
On Saturday 06 September 2003 10:40 pm, crak600 wrote: > On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:28 am, Charlie M. wrote: > > > > Probably, but what I posted is still what I think. People running MS > > virusware shouldn't be calling us or this list infection focal points. > > > > I thought there were more

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-06 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 03:40:12 + crak600 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > so lemme get this straight, a ms-win virus could be picked up in > linux, but then wouldn't do anything until you booted the computer > back into windows, right? nope. you cannot pick up a virus in Linux. It would be on a

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-06 Thread crak600
On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:28 am, Charlie M. wrote: > > Probably, but what I posted is still what I think. People running MS > virusware shouldn't be calling us or this list infection focal points. > > I thought there were more than two, and I've also seen a s**t load for > every post I've made

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-06 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 6, 2003 09:12 pm, David Filion wrote: > I believe what he means is at least two messages were posted to the > list that contained the sobig virus. I've counted at least two > tonight. Probably, but what I posted is still what I think. Peo

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-06 Thread crak600
On Sunday 07 September 2003 02:52 am, HaywireMac wrote: > > You could save yourself a whole lot of money, flush McAfee, AVG, and > whatever whatchamacallits that make $ from Microsoft's egregious > incompetence, down the toilet if you would get rid of at least Outhouse, > at best the whole Wind

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-06 Thread David Filion
Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 6, 2003 07:32 pm, Eric S. Dye wrote: Dear List, I received two viruses (both sobig) from the newbie list..from HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] and HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-06 Thread HaywireMac
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 18:32:08 -0700 "Eric S. Dye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > I am surprised because I thought Linux was pretty much impervious to > viruses. Not "pretty much", it is. You could save yourself a whole lot of money, flush McAfee, AVG, and whatever whatchamacallits that make

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-06 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 6, 2003 07:32 pm, Eric S. Dye wrote: > Dear List, > > I received two viruses (both sobig) from the newbie list..from > HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] and HYPERLINK > "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] I wou

Re: [newbie] Viruses..........

2003-09-06 Thread Brian Craft
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 21:32, Eric S. Dye wrote: > Dear List, > > I received two viruses (both sobig) from the newbie list..from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would suggest getting a > good antivirus program. I am using a combination of Norton, Trend > Micro, AVG and Benign. AVG

Re: [newbie] Viruses.

2001-07-27 Thread Michel Clasquin
On Wednesday 25 July 2001 11:51, Adams, Jamie wrote: > Just a small note about the SirCam virus, i had never heard of this, but > on my windows machine at work this morning i have recieved 3 messages > from an unknown person infected with it. Get a life, mate. I've had over 30 of the damn things

Re: Re: [newbie] Viruses

2001-07-25 Thread anton
Chernobyl (a CIH virus) would have to be favourite. It can render a Windos machine totally unbootable, necessitating a format (to remove the virus fully) and a reinstall. Not big deal ; Bill Gates did too .

Re: [newbie] Viruses.

2001-07-25 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:03, Paul wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Everybody except Linux Users has heard about SirCam a new EXTREMELY > > annoying virus. Seems a very popular one out there at moment - can > > send random giant file attachments ! > > > > Which brings me to the point: > > I don't border on

Re: [newbie] Viruses. - Booting Doze

2001-07-25 Thread John Rigby
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:09, you manipulated electrons to produce: snipped: > In the Windos world, many of the most successful and most > devastating virii have exploited old (often years old) security > holes. Windos sysadmins, many of them incompetant (you would have > to be if you use Windos),

Re: [newbie] Viruses.

2001-07-25 Thread civileme
On Wednesday 25 July 2001 07:58, John Rigby wrote: > Hi folks, > Everybody except Linux Users has heard about SirCam a new EXTREMELY > annoying virus. Seems a very popular one out there at moment - can > send random giant file attachments ! > > Which brings me to the point: > I don't border on -

Re: [newbie] Viruses.

2001-07-25 Thread Paul
> Hi folks, > Everybody except Linux Users has heard about SirCam a new EXTREMELY > annoying virus. Seems a very popular one out there at moment - can > send random giant file attachments ! > > Which brings me to the point: > I don't border on - I AM paranoid in the Doze world - > I executed

Re: [newbie] Viruses?

1999-08-18 Thread Ripcrd6
Umm, couldn't you just open another xterm (Alt + f3 or something) and kill the script process? Brian "Hey Pat, I'd like to buy a clue, err, I mean a vowel." >Hi, > >not to give anyone any idea but a very simple destructive script can be >constructed with virus qualities. > >1) Append a "at" com

Re: [newbie] Viruses?

1999-08-18 Thread Steve Philp
Toby Sheets wrote: > > I was just wondering: > > Is Linux susceptible to the same virii that Windoze is? Nope, user and group permissions protect everyone but root from hurting other users. Not to say that root couldn't screw things up royally, of course -- Steve Philp Network Administra

Re: [newbie] Viruses?

1999-08-18 Thread DoC
Hi, not to give anyone any idea but a very simple destructive script can be constructed with virus qualities. 1) Append a "at" command to a virus script to user's startup script. 2)The virus script would list all the processes running and extract those PIDs with the current user name. 3) Redir

Re: [newbie] Viruses?

1999-08-18 Thread Ty Mixon
True story: A friend of mine who works for a local car dealership wanted some help in designing their web page. He sent me an email, and a second one was automagicaly generated for him by, you guessed it, Happy99. This occurred right after the big discussion on this list about Happy99. I s

Re: [newbie] Viruses?

1999-08-18 Thread Civileme
There is ONE documented Unix virus.  It is called "Bliss" and was written as an academic exercise to explore the theoretical possibility of construction of virii that could traverse Unices.  Bliss can infect a user space, but then who gives write privileges to an ordinary user for anything execut

Re: [newbie] Viruses?

1999-08-18 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, you wrote: > I was just wondering: > > Is Linux susceptible to the same virii that Windoze is? > NO! Most of the "virus scanners" you'll see for *nix are for checking DOS files for viruses, not for checking for Linux virii.

Re: [newbie] Viruses?

1999-08-18 Thread John May
Exactly that is why you can't be infected by a Winblows virus on a Mac platform and vice versa. It also is the same reason you can't run Winbloze apps in Linux without an emulator. BTW, haven't seen too many viruses for Linux lately and how many are there for Winblows, umm ... around 50,000?