Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Allen Thomas
You don't have to rub it in.. ;-) Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Hawaii Sean Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:26:58 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line Thanks

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Allen Thomas
Good point, plus the 700 only makes 47 HP and red lines at 6500 rpm, so if the 500 makes 43 HP it might be a more entertaining ride. Plus it's 2K cheaper. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Kurt Nolte Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:1

[Nighthawk Lovers] Honda's 500 Niche

2012-12-28 Thread Jaybird248
Honda's niche for the new 500 line is one of price. They've neatly slipped these bikes in between the 250-300 class and the Suzuki and Kawasaki 650 standards. In fact, you can buy a Honda 500 for barely more than a Kawasaki 300. This isn't the first time Honda undercut the market. In 1991, th

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread paul annen
Im also a 365 rider, but my fiancee has the aztek, so even if it gets to.nasty we have options Or if we need to haul something big On Dec 28, 2012 8:36 PM, "Paul" wrote: > Nice picture Javier!!! > > * > > Paul LeBoutillier * > *www.hondanighthawks.net* > > > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sunken Motorcycle Finds Owner After 56 Years

2012-12-28 Thread Paul
Crazy! * Paul LeBoutillier * *www.hondanighthawks.net* On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: > Nice story, > > > http://www.bikebandit.com/community/articles/sunken-motorcycle-finds-owner-after-56-years#.UNzfVJPjmn0 > > -- > You received this message because you are subsc

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Paul
Nice picture Javier!!! * Paul LeBoutillier * *www.hondanighthawks.net* On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: > If you have a nice backrest or a top case, the passenger doesn't need to > lean forward, even on a sport bike: > > > https://picasaweb.google.com/1181052549475158243

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Joey Kelley
Sean, You are quite right - if I were to roll out of my driveway right now next to snow banks that are two feet high (about 10 inches of snow in 48 hours) on a bike - they would quickly have me committed and well, I wouldn't blame them! -Joey On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:26 PM, H

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Dennis
The only time I don't ride is in the snow and ice. But, fortunately, we have little of either in Christchurch. My bikes (two 700SC's) are all I have through my partner has a car which we use at times. Oh, and some bicycles which we're frequently on as well. Dennis From: nighthawk_lover

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Rmj
I ride whenever I can, typically based on weather. -Original Message- From: "Hawaii Sean" Sent: 12/28/2012 4:26 PM To: "nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com" Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line Thanks Kurt - I also fall into the rare 365 day a year rider. I'm lucky

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Hawaii Sean
Thanks Kurt - I also fall into the rare 365 day a year rider. I'm lucky because of the weather in Hawaii but I know other people on this thred ride year round in places I would last for more than about 30 seconds walking down the street let alone on a bike. I don't see the bike as a luxury or

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Kurt Nolte
Actually, if the X gets decent ratings, I would spring for it over the 700X. It has a bigger fuel tank (4.5 vs the 700's 3.7), has a slightly shorter wheelbase, weighs 40 pounds less, and actually has slightly shallower rake. Should be the more maneuverable of the two, which for a city commuter mak

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Allen Thomas
Don't forget about women, most of them don't feel comfortable with larger bikes. Personally I don't see the point to the x version since it is almost identical to the 700x. The CB and the CBR versions make sense to me. Naked pseudo sport bikes have been selling well, as they are more comfortable

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Kurt Nolte
All the info I can find on the original 250 put the redline at just shy of 19k RPM... I'd say they were gutless in the torque department, probably had to be ridden like a two-stroke, and weren't available for terribly long. Two years, I think? Sean, Yeah, it's a rant, and it's a good one, but unfo

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Joey Kelley
I should think so - at that size they must not have had much torque? -Joey On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote: > Joey, > > There were a few 400 - 4s, and the original CBR250 was a 4; talk about > sewing machines! > > Kurt > On Dec 28, 2012 3:22 PM, "Joey Kelley" wrote

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Joey Kelley
Hey Kyle - look another guy with a camelback and no cup holder! LOL (Off list joke) -Joey On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: > If you have a nice backrest or a top case, the passenger doesn't need to > lean forward, even on a sport bike: > > > https://pi

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Kurt Nolte
Joey, There were a few 400 - 4s, and the original CBR250 was a 4; talk about sewing machines! Kurt On Dec 28, 2012 3:22 PM, "Joey Kelley" wrote: > Graham, > Thanks! Where there any other under 500cc fours? Oh and I bet > that thing runs like a sewing machine! > -Joey >

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Javier Garcia
If you have a nice backrest or a top case, the passenger doesn't need to lean forward, even on a sport bike: https://picasaweb.google.com/118105254947515824375/FirstLandingNationalPark?authkey=Gv1sRgCNyS55flpN2DkAE#5772531558479695554 Javier. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Hawaii Sean wrote:

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Hawaii Sean
Kurt - Thanks for the clarification. I guess I'm either getting to old or crazy but what's happened to the back seat? Even the ST1300 has the passenger in a higher position that will require you to get another seat or they'll be leaning up against you some of the time. The NV700 looks like t

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Joey Kelley
Graham, Thanks! Where there any other under 500cc fours? Oh and I bet that thing runs like a sewing machine! -Joey On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Graham Rogers wrote: > 350F was a 350 cc inline 4 - 70's Honda - pic attached > > > -- > You received this message because

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Kyle Munz
That's a clean clean clean bike. -Kyle On Dec 28, 2012 2:17 PM, "Graham Rogers" wrote: > 350F was a 350 cc inline 4 - 70's Honda - pic attached > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, se

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Javier Garcia
I totally agree with Kurt's comments, and in regards to the market, the way I see it Honda is just filling the holes they had with respect to Suzuki and Kawasaki, i.e., cb500f looks just like the suzuki sv650, cbr500/250 compete with the kawa's ninjas 500/250, etc. Very true on the adventure==stand

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Kurt Nolte
CB doesn't have to be a 4 can bike; there are plenty of CB twins historically to prove that. The F is probably the "naked" counterpart to the CBR500 in the lineup. It has a market, be assured. For a commuter you'd probably want the X instead of the F or CBR. It seems "adventure" is the new word fo

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Joey Kelley
Sean, The Nighthawk 250 and 450 lines were twins Traditionally the line in the sand was anything below 500ccs was a twin - anything larger was a four. (At least in the 70s and 80s Hondas that I'm aware of - someone feel free to correct me if I've missed something) -Joey On

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Hawaii Sean
OK I'm really not a purest but Aren't the CB line in-line 4- cylinder bikes? A CB500F makes sense to me in that it would be a great bike for communting that you can on longer trips - probably a lot like my 95 750. However, it has a sport bike seat which is just plain confusing to me. If

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Intercoms

2012-12-28 Thread Hawaii Sean
I've been looking for a long time as well. There are a bunch on eBay at a set for around $100 or less. All from China but they look a lot like the other brands. Has anyone bought one of these? Aloha Sean On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:06:02 AM UTC-10, Joey wrote: > > All, > I've be

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well - I've done it - I've gone and joined the 'Dark Side'

2012-12-28 Thread Joey Kelley
Speaking of rolling food prep - here is a couple that combine two of my favorite things - Pizza and Studebakers! http://www.rollingstonebaker.com/Truck.html Mandatory Bike Reference: You can Haul a motorcycle in a Studebaker truck :-) -Joey On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Ky

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well - I've done it - I've gone and joined the 'Dark Side'

2012-12-28 Thread Kyle Munz
If Honda ever gets around to adding a softserve icecream dispenser to their goldwings I'll buy one. -Kyle On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: > You laugh but > http://gajitz.com/espresso-express-in-car-coffee-maker-is-a-jolt-on-wheels/and > http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well - I've done it - I've gone and joined the 'Dark Side'

2012-12-28 Thread Joey Kelley
You laugh but http://gajitz.com/espresso-express-in-car-coffee-maker-is-a-jolt-on-wheels/and http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/12/fiat-500l-to-launch-with-worlds-first-in-car-coffee-maker-optio/ Personally - I like the idea of a fountain soda machine in a saddle bag better :-)

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well - I've done it - I've gone and joined the 'Dark Side'

2012-12-28 Thread Michael Curran
I thought cup holders came stock on the Wing and the cappuccino machine was an added option. :-) Kyle Munz wrote: >My dad has gimbled cupholders on his wing. I tell him that's when you know >you're getting soft. Personally I use a camelbak. > >-Kyle > >On Dec 27, 2012 6:09 AM, "Joey Kelle

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Sunken Motorcycle Finds Owner After 56 Years

2012-12-28 Thread Joey Kelley
Brings a tear to me eye. On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: > Nice story, > > > http://www.bikebandit.com/community/articles/sunken-motorcycle-finds-owner-after-56-years#.UNzfVJPjmn0 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ni

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Honda's new 500cc line

2012-12-28 Thread Dave duChene
looks interesting. Hope we get them too - the NC700x isn't sold in Canada. On 27 December 2012 15:38, Allen Thomas wrote: > Looks like Honda is releasing a trio of 500cc parallel twins. one is an > adventure bike basically a scalled down NC700x, but the other two are a > CBR, and a CB. All of