Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-28 Thread Isaac Schlueter
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:32, Dennis Kane wrote: > I'm assuming that no one here is interested in NatLang issues or how > to implement them in Javascript?! On the contrary, everyone's pretty interested. That's why they asked you to show it off. As you said yourself, previous explorations in th

[nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-28 Thread Dennis Kane
Jesus, dude, thanks for the psychoanalysis. Anyone reading this thread can see what turned into a slow moving train wreck. I posted my thing and some people said: Cool! In the first post, I said something about eventually doing an open source thing. Someone said: "I want the source!" I said, "

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-28 Thread Duncan Gmail
+1 On 28 Apr 2012, at 17:31, Isaac Schlueter wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53, Dennis Kane wrote: >> Let's all remember what open source is really all about. A program is >> called closed source if it is distributed in binary format only. The open >> source movement makes the demand tha

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-28 Thread Isaac Schlueter
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53, Dennis Kane wrote: > Let's all remember what open source is really all about.  A program is > called closed source if it is distributed in binary format only.  The open > source movement makes the demand that one cannot distribute a binary program > using, for exampl

RE: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-27 Thread Glenn Block
, but you can still respect that others do. Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: Dennis Kane Sent: 4/26/2012 10:53 AM To: nodejs@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project On Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:07:52 PM UTC-7, Isaac

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-26 Thread Mark Hahn
> Which means: if I don't want to give away the entirety of my labors that I've been agonizing over for all these years, then I have no legitimate reason to post to this forum. No, that is not what I meant. I literally meant "why are you here?". I had only thought of the recruiting angle but no

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-26 Thread Dennis Kane
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:57:26 AM UTC-7, Mark Hahn wrote: > > I guess the question everyone is thinking (or asking) is why are you here? > I can understand the recruiting, but I can't think of any other reason. > > Which means: if I don't want to give away the entirety of my labors that I'

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-26 Thread Mark Hahn
I guess the question everyone is thinking (or asking) is why are you here? I can understand the recruiting, but I can't think of any other reason. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Dennis Kane wrote: > On Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:07:52 PM UTC-7, Isaac Schlueter wrote: >> >> >> The MIT licens

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-26 Thread Dennis Kane
On Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:07:52 PM UTC-7, Isaac Schlueter wrote: > > > The MIT license in node (as well as the MIT and BSD licenses in the > vast majority of open source node programs) explicitly allows use for > closed-source commercial applications. If Dennis wants to keep his > source c

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-26 Thread Dennis Kane
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:35:48 AM UTC-7, shawn wilson wrote: > > Per parsing language, you might want to look at what python's nltk and > Java's gate (less familiar with the later) have done for inspiration > Yeah, I saw the python nltk yesterday just to see what was currently out there. De

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-26 Thread shawn wilson
Per parsing language, you might want to look at what python's nltk and Java's gate (less familiar with the later) have done for inspiration. On Apr 25, 2012 10:07 PM, "Isaac Schlueter" wrote: > Please do not bicker over politics here. This is not the place, and > it never ever ends well. > > Ple

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Isaac Schlueter
Please do not bicker over politics here. This is not the place, and it never ever ends well. Please do not call each other idiots or make other personal remarks. If you want to say that a piece of *code* is terrible, or that a software approach is misguided, or that a statement is factually untru

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Dennis Kane
> > You don't come off as an asshole -- and besides, we have no problem with > assholes: we're developers. Saying the things you're saying, to the > audience you're saying them to -- well, it's that you come off as an idiot. > The good news is this is a lot easier to fix. > > I'm an idiot bec

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Stewart Mckinney
Hey wait who hired the troll? On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Dennis Kane wrote: > > Seems like you still have a long way to go to reach that. :D >> >> I don't think it should be too much longer before I can start making some > sales calls based on the progress I've already made. > >> >> >> Wel

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Dennis Kane
> Seems like you still have a long way to go to reach that. :D > > I don't think it should be too much longer before I can start making some sales calls based on the progress I've already made. > > > Well, your long-time goal is to make a good program that can answer > questions using some lo

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Dean Landolt
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dennis Kane wrote: > OK guys, firefighter Kane to the rescue. > Some firefighter -- you're the one w/ the lighter, now you pour on fuel and claim you're here to help? > I said "tad". For full disclosure, I've been using Debian for many years, > and I feel it i

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Jann Horn
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:14:12AM -0700, Dennis Kane wrote: > I don't know what else to say other than I'm excited as hell to try to make > some major noise in the free markets. If I come in here being all gung ho > about open sourcing all of this, then that will be much less likely. Seems lik

[nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Dennis Kane
OK guys, firefighter Kane to the rescue. I said "tad". For full disclosure, I've been using Debian for many years, and I feel it is by far the best OS in existence. I am writing this in nano, the source code of which I have done some hacking on. I'm here because I can't do this thing by myse

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Matt
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Dennis Kane wrote: > Was just saying it is, a tad. Maybe "pointless" was a bad word choice. > Overblown is probably better. Don't think you can deny that without those > other things, the source code of any non trivial program is quite a > worthless commodity

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Dennis Kane
Was just saying it is, a tad. Maybe "pointless" was a bad word choice. Overblown is probably better. Don't think you can deny that without those other things, the source code of any non trivial program is quite a worthless commodity in and of itself. The entire node ecosystem, at the moment

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Dennis Kane
Was just saying it is, a tad. Maybe "pointless" was a bad word choice. Overblown is probably better. Don't think you can deny that without those other things, the source code of any non trivial program is quite a worthless commodity in and of itself. The entire node ecosystem, at the moment

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Dennis Kane
Was just saying it is, a tad. Maybe "pointless" was a bad word choice. Overblown is probably better. Don't think you can deny that without those other things, the source code of any non trivial program is quite a worthless commodity in and of itself. The entire node ecosystem, at the moment

Re: [nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-25 Thread Matt
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Dennis Kane wrote: > I do find the whole open source movement a tad pointless. For me, the > source code always takes a back seat to good API documentation, well > commented header files, decent man pages, a good bug reporting/fixing > system, etc. > I think you

[nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-24 Thread Dennis Kane
Now that I think about it more, Javascript makes the entire issue of open source much less urgent given that one can pass in their own custom functions, either for replacement purposes or for extension. I'll just have to provide the API for what kinds of arguments will be passed in and what sh

[nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-24 Thread Dennis Kane
Hi Jann, I'm not sure you really want the source at this point... at least not without some pretty detailed explanation to go along with it! I first started working on the algorithm six years ago in perl, which also happened to be when I was first learning how to program. Given my inexperience,

[nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-23 Thread Brandon Benvie
The first AI that impressed me and has value for me is the one that delivers me what I want in the day before I consciously realize I want it. -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message

[nodejs] Re: Your thoughts wanted on a node AI project

2012-04-23 Thread Evan
That's great! I am reminded of this blog [[ http://www.briangrinstead.com ]] which also has some neat AI algorithms written in JS. He wrote them for the browser, but I can tell you his A* implementation [[ http://www.briangrinstead.com/blog/astar-search-algorithm-in-javascript ]] works great