And I hope nobody sang/played the fifth verse of "The Twelve days of
Christmas" over the festive season as, although the other eleven verses are
"traditional"and public domain, the particular "F-ive go-lden rings" bit is
copyright to Novello.
The world's gone mad..
Colin Hil
Something else to think about is putting performances up on youtube or
myspace. All I know about this is what I hear on the radio, but if I'm
not mistaken, technically, you are infringing copyright if you put a
video up on the internet of a performance of protected melodies--like
"h
Tullochgorum - NOT The reel of T / Jimmy Allan - is in David Young's
'Duke of Perth' ms, 1734. Not only is it the earliest version I
encountered but it is also a 10-strain variation set. So you could say
it went downhill (the blue-green one) from then on.
This and other fascinating information is i
Agreed!
Also heavily biased in favour of those with money.
I once rewrote a verse of traditional song which became very popular in the
local clubs in the 60's (because I learned it off a record and couldn't, for
the life of me, understand the words of one particular verse, I made one
up).
It wa
''All agree it is far too complicated - and set up to favour the commercial
music industry.'' And lawyers?
Bill
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The owner of such a copyright would have a tough time making a claim against
someone performing or even recording the tune and incorporating a minor
tweak to the tune - it would be hard to prove that the variation to the tune
didn't already exist in the public domain, especially in a folk genre. Th
This explains why a lot of tune books in print have slightly tweaked versions
of standard tunes -
If these are reproduced, which would be unlikely to be accidental or on grounds
of taste in many cases,
there is then a potential claim for breach of copyright.
John
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Back to this chestnut, before MsTickell's award takes the airwaves up :)
Especially since Colin Hill posted the link
http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/old-time-music/midi/005200.MID
to that amazing rendition on accompaniment with bit of tune showing
through , it's been occasionally surfacing
Well done, Kathryn Tickel - very well deserved and merited award.
Peter Dunn
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I'm not a lawyer, but my work involves intellectual property issues.
The law should be clear but in practice it isn't. In the US it as follows:
The copyright law of the United States provides for copyright protection in
musical works, including any accompanying words, that are fixed in some
ta
Richard isnt wrong about recording giving copyright, I wasn't
sufficiently clear.
What I meant was that when, for instance, the Carter Family learned a
song from and old-timer and and then performed it in a recording
studio for commercial release, they could claim the copyright on the
original
some of you may have missed this on the BBC website
A globally acclaimed folk artist from Northumberland is to be given a
prestigious music award.
Kathryn Tickell, who plays the Northumbrian pipes and violin, is to be
awarded the Queen's Medal for Music.
The annual award, app
Publishing or recording a traditional tune or any tune in the public domain
does not confer that person with any rights to the original tune itself.
They do however have rights to their newly created intellectual property,
i.e. the actual musical score or recording. Anyone can continue to perform
t
"Must have been nice when the likes of Mr Allen just swapped and played tunes "
Actually the word is 'stole'. Especially Mr Allen.
Long may it continue.
-Original Message-
From: colin [mailto:cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 16 January 2009 14:12
To: NSP group
Subject: [NSP]
The more I read on this, the more confusing it sounds.
It seems more linked to the PRS and stuff.
May it be that actually publishing traditional stuff confers a copyright on
it?
So, a traditional tune collected or published by,say, the EFDSS, then
becomes their property?
Reading some sites broug
... and let's not even lift small corner of the lid over the hell which
is the Public Entertainment Licence :-(
Richard
[1]julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
On 16 Jan 2009, [2]malcra...@aol.com wrote:
How does copyright effect performance.?
Especaillay if an enterance charge is made,
Performing right is a separate minefield, similar but not identical to
copyright.
Traditional music is ok, but composers and their heirs
should be paid the due whack for performances. Usually via PRS.
John
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From: malcra...@aol.com [mailto:malcra...@aol.com]
Sent: 16 J
On 16 Jan 2009, malcra...@aol.com wrote:
> How does copyright effect performance.?
> Especaillay if an enterance charge is made,
For all "performances", paid or otherwise, and this includes sessions
in pubs, someone is supposed to sit there writing down everything
that is played. This list is
Julia
Thanks for all of that information.
How does copyright effect performance.?
Especaillay if an enterance charge is made,
or For example at a funeral?
Thanks
Malcolm
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From: julia@nspipes.co.uk
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Fri, 16 Jan
Michael Jackson's THAT strapped for cash???... or just that mean?
What happened to those nice American ladies who wrote it all those years
ago, then?
Richard
julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
On 16 Jan 2009, julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
But here's a PS:
"Publishing" includes typesetting
On 16 Jan 2009, julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
But here's a PS:
"Publishing" includes typesetting more than one copy and handing it
round to friends: writing out a copyright tune by hand, copying it by
any means and distributing that:course music of any sort: workshops:
and so on, and so on
Hi,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure simply recording it does confer
copyright, or at least has in the past, justly or not.
When various people collected folk singers earlier in the C20th, I
believe it's still an issue which rankles that by doing so they did
exactly that.
I was told that t
Dear List
With regard to my previous reply, I would like to take this opportunity to
apologise for leaving out the word "list" in my request to the EFDSS library
for help with the research on Jimmy Allen.
Possibly I should have said that, "members of the NPS on the NSP list are
discussing source
On 16 Jan 2009, Barry Say wrote:
> I believe the situation in
> the USA is rather different,
> Also, how long does copyright last?
> Anyone know any good websites?
The first thing about copyright is that it's a minefield.
The second is that it's different from country to country: certainly
US
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