Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Vit Zyka said this at Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:54:41 +0100: >>> Font design is very subjective game, I know. There is my comment: I'm reminded of this quote: "The Polish prefer it more upright. The Czechs prefer it more flat." -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Hans Hagen wrote: Vit Zyka wrote: Font design is very subjective game, I know. There is my comment: I have asked Czech TeX users for their opinion yesterday. Now I want to wait a several days for their collecting. After that I will summarize the discussion results and will sent it here and to Jac

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Vit Zyka wrote: Font design is very subjective game, I know. There is my comment: 1) LM has very ugly caron 2) caron is too high at both capitals and minuscules Isn't that a matter of taste? Think of mixed language usage (not that strange in todays europe), then one wants consistency and this was

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:51:24 +0100: >what cmr does xetex use? a special version? we can of course make a xetex >specific typescript to setup the default fonts It's a straight opentype encapsulation of the CMR type1 fonts from CTAN, as far as I can tell. Getting LM in there

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Adam Lindsay wrote: latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr: Ah, here's a conflict: XeTeX doesn't have latin modern yet. (Needs to be converted to OpenType, with some special table enabled... JK hasn't documented it yet.) Do you have a switch to avoid the cmr-lm conversion? what cmr does

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:41:26 +0100: >> Also, something I just realised (thanks to Vit's example): XeTeX hasn't a >> clue when it comes to grid typesetting. (Has to do with the difficulty of >> getting the metrics from the platform fonts, I think.) > >context does grid typesetti

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Vit Zyka wrote: I prefer the second variant. Can we find its solution? added to the previous mail: german has dedicated umlauts in latin modern, so what you ask for is dedidated (positioned lower) caron's and such; about the small circular thingie, it indeed looks a bit to spiny in latin modern,

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Vit Zyka wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: btw, if you patch enco-il2 by \startcoding[il2][il2] % second entry and regenerate the format you have a regime for free -) OK. That is the game. Chars were born. I prepared a quick comparision of Czech/Slovak accented letters (Latin Modern v. CS Fonts). See ht

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Hans Hagen wrote: btw, if you patch enco-il2 by \startcoding[il2][il2] % second entry and regenerate the format you have a regime for free -) OK. That is the game. Chars were born. I prepared a quick comparision of Czech/Slovak accented letters (Latin Modern v. CS Fonts). See http://typokvitek.c

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Adam Lindsay wrote: Ah, here's a conflict: XeTeX doesn't have latin modern yet. (Needs to be converted to OpenType, with some special table enabled... JK hasn't documented it yet.) Do you have a switch to avoid the cmr-lm conversion? hm, we should have a \beginXETEX ... \endXETEX section then but b

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Vit Zyka wrote: \setupencoding[default=il2] \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding] There is some mess with encoding, I think: - \setupencoding[default=il2] \def\criticalchars{\dcaron=\v d=Ä} \starttext \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding] \criticalchars \stoptext

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Adam Lindsay wrote: Vit Zyka said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:30:20 +0100: So problem is at the very beginning stage. I check if input file is exactly in il2 encoding, yes it is. 'ì' has catcode letter. So a the letter is should enter the font. Where is problem? I think it's with two things: 1)

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Hans Hagen said this at Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:29 +0100: > latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr: Ah, here's a conflict: XeTeX doesn't have latin modern yet. (Needs to be converted to OpenType, with some special table enabled... JK hasn't documented it yet.) Do you have a switch to avo

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Vit Zyka said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:30:20 +0100: >So problem is at the very beginning stage. I check if input file is >exactly in il2 encoding, yes it is. 'ì' has catcode letter. So a the >letter is should enter the font. > >Where is problem? I think it's with two things: 1) you're not using

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

\setupencoding[default=il2] \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding] There is some mess with encoding, I think: - \setupencoding[default=il2] \def\criticalchars{\dcaron=\v d=Ä} \starttext \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding] \criticalchars \stoptext -

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Vit Zyka wrote: So can we move \unprotected \setuplanguage [cz] [\c!compoundhyphen=-, \c!leftcompoundhyphen=-, \c!rightcompoundhyphen=-] onto cont-cz.tex ? no, if all your czech friends agree, it can move to lang-sla.tex And related question. Is there ANY czech user who uses cz in

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:28:43 -0700: No, but I use old-style numerals as default Ok, the next alpha will offer you: \starttext \usetypescript [modern][\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[modern] test 1234 test \stop

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Hans Hagen wrote: Vit Zyka wrote: I save time to install new release and start to test. Good news: 1) The hyphen code can be processed with cont-cz. Bad news: 1) \c!compoundhyphen atc. are not defined in cont-con.tex they are in mult-con (in the alpha) Sorry Hans, I did not distinguish between curr

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Vit Zyka wrote: I save time to install new release and start to test. Good news: 1) The hyphen code can be processed with cont-cz. Bad news: 1) \c!compoundhyphen atc. are not defined in cont-con.tex they are in mult-con (in the alpha) 2) it preserves long-variant hyphen for \cz case (no difference

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, I posted an alpha release. Main differences: > - david antos' wish, test for this: \unprotected \setuplanguage [cz] [\c!compoundhyphen=-, \c!leftcompoundhyphen=-, \c!rightcompoundhyphen=-] Hallo Hans, I save time to install new release and start to test. Go

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:41:30 +0100, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are also a few accents that I have to make on the fly with (amateurish) macros, including the shorter bar over lower case and some others. lm should provide all of this by default. do you have a list of them: ok, e

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:45:29 +, Adam Lindsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:28:43 -0700: No, but I use old-style numerals as default Out of curiosity, are the old-style numerals from CM (cmmi*, I presume) in any shapes other than roman? I had the

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:28:43 -0700: >No, but I use old-style numerals as default Out of curiosity, are the old-style numerals from CM (cmmi*, I presume) in any shapes other than roman? I had the impression there were no real italic or bold variants, but I could be wro

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Sorry 4 late response, was out of town... On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:11:40 +0100, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there things in cmr that are not in latin modern? No, but I use old-style numerals as default (as it should be in much of the liberal arts and critical

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Sorry 4 late response, was out of town... On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:11:40 +0100, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there things in cmr that are not in latin modern? No, but I use old-style numerals as default (as it should be in much of the liberal arts and critical scholarship). There are al

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:11:29 +0100, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I posted an alpha release. Main differences: - latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr: fetch the cont-lmt.zip file if needed Ok, but lm is (as far as I know) still not quite usab

Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:11:29 +0100, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I posted an alpha release. Main differences: - latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr: fetch the cont-lmt.zip file if needed Ok, but lm is (as far as I know) still not quite usable for e.g. my journal. I s

[NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

Hi, I posted an alpha release. Main differences: - some efficiency changes in language parts needed for || extension - latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr: fetch the cont-lmt.zip file if needed - david antos' wish, test for this: \unprotected \setuplanguage [cz] [\c!comp