RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Carl Houseman
If a "deep scan" looks for modifications to the hosts file, I can see that as some benefit for after-the-fact notification. Now you're talking about a threat that is otherwise undetectable except for the changes it makes to files or registry areas that aren't monitored by realtime scanning. But a

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Carl Houseman
So what? If it's been a long time, and it's now detected, what *harm* is prevented by a scheduled scan that a realtime scan won't also prevent? If the file is never accessed, it's not doing any harm. If it is accessed after it's detectable, it get blocked by the realtime scanner, and it does

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Carl Houseman
No, that's not the only way a threat is eliminated before being activated. After signatures are updated, the realtime scanner will sound off as soon as something or someone tries to activate or copy it. If nothing tries to activate it or copy it then there's no harm. It's just occupying disk s

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 22 Oct 2009 at 18:52, Sherry Abercrombie wrote: > You can't be serious.I installed Vipre on my pc and started a deep > scan right as my lunch hour started. Played a FPS game at lunch and > never noticed a performance hit at all. What CPU? How much RAM is installed? -- Angus Scott-Flemi

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 22 Oct 2009 at 19:57, Tom Miller wrote: > Wel, Vipre still bogs down our PCs here when the weekly > deep scan is running. We get the same complaints we had when we used > Symantec. The quick scans are not noticed, but I'm bummed that the deep > scan causes a very noticeable

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 22 Oct 2009 at 21:30, Carl Houseman wrote: > All this turmoil over scheduled scans... tell me, what do scheduled scans > find that real-time scanning won't catch? Stuff that has slipped under the radar that is new in the signature files that wasn't there when the malware was infecting the ma

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 22 Oct 2009 at 18:04, Kurt Buff wrote: > We schedule quick AV scans at noon on Wednesday, full AV scans on > Monday at 8pm, and Microsoft patching (via WSUS) with a deadline of > 05:00 Tuesday. We schedule a test group for WSUS patching the Monday > evening after patch Tuesday, and the rest of

RE: OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable

2009-10-22 Thread Webster
Our local city owned utility now offers Fiber phone/tv/internet. If you only get Internet they charge you $5 extra. If you also get the phone service it is the cost of your Internet package plus $29.99/mth. Webster > -Original Message- > From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapp

Re: OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 22:06, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote: > On 22 Oct 2009 at 18:18, Kurt Buff  wrote: > >> OTOH, it makes me cranky that they're charging me $5.00/mo *NOT* to have >> their voice service. Grumble. > > If you can get voice+FIOS for $50, vs $55 for FIOS only, that to me is a No- > B

Re: OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable

2009-10-22 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 22 Oct 2009 at 18:18, Kurt Buff wrote: > OTOH, it makes me cranky that they're charging me $5.00/mo *NOT* to have > their voice service. Grumble. If you can get voice+FIOS for $50, vs $55 for FIOS only, that to me is a No- Brainer. Buy the bundle and just never plug in a phone ;-) If you m

I: ADSL speed and bandwith

2009-10-22 Thread HELP_PC
If exists, how can we check a bandwith for an ISP ADSL connection ? Is reliabale if ISP claims he can garantee bandwidth according to connection price ? I can see dl and upl speed from the modem router itself but how to check other parameters ? TIA GuidoElia HELPPC ~ Finally, p

Re: OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
OK - that's two votes for. I'll give the guy a call tomorrow... Kurt On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 19:56, Andrew S. Baker wrote: > FiOS is *much* better than Cable. > > I switched a year ago from Comcast Cable to Verizon FiOS, and you couldn't > pay me to go back. > > ASB (My XeeSM Profile) > Providi

RE: OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable

2009-10-22 Thread Webster
Not for $100,000,000? J Webster From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable FiOS is *much* better than Cable. I switched a year ago from Comcast Cable to Verizon FiOS, and you couldn't pay me to go back. ASB (My XeeSM Profile

Re: OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable

2009-10-22 Thread Andrew S. Baker
FiOS is **much** better than Cable. I switched a year ago from Comcast Cable to Verizon FiOS, and you couldn't pay me to go back. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) *Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Kurt Buff

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
Error in your logic, here... AV software is *never* perfectly up-to-date on all bits of malware all the time. Something is always missed, and sometimes for a very long time, no matter how good the AV software is. Kurt On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 19:52, Carl Houseman wrote: > Try to employ some logi

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Andrew S. Baker
If a zero-day malware lands on your system but didn't get triggered right away, and a signature became available in a few days, the only way to eliminate the threat before it gets activated by time or by user is with a scheduled scan.I've had the scheduled scans catch things that no sig was ava

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Carl Houseman
Try to employ some logic here. Q: Why does a realtime scan not find something? A: Because the file is never accessed. If the answer above is NOT the answer, then the realtime scanner is broken and that AV product should be abandoned. Q: When does a realtime scanner identify malware? A: When it'

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 19:21, Carl Houseman wrote: > What's the answer to my question?  (highlighted below in case you missed it) The answer is: I don't know, but the VIPRE realtime scans aren't catching what the scheduled scans are catching. > Here's another:  How dangerous is a malware file t

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Carl Houseman
What's the answer to my question? (highlighted below in case you missed it) And if you correctly answer the question, how do scheduled scans prevent an infection that real-time scanning wouldn't prevent? Here's another: How dangerous is a malware file that resides on a hard drive and is

Sherweb

2009-10-22 Thread Roger Scudder
Anyone have any experience with Sherweb (www.sherweb.com) for Exchange hosting (or any other services that they offer)? Their prices look great and I'm wondering if they are just hype or they really do prove quality services. -Roger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resou

Re: OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 19:10, Richard Stovall wrote: > I've had FIOS at home for a couple of years now.  It has been down > maybe 3 times that I know of, and each of those has been only for a > few minutes.  I only had to call customer service once, and it was > back up by the time I got to a tec

Re: OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable

2009-10-22 Thread Richard Stovall
I've had FIOS at home for a couple of years now. It has been down maybe 3 times that I know of, and each of those has been only for a few minutes. I only had to call customer service once, and it was back up by the time I got to a technician (maybe 10 or 15 minutes all told). We also have TV wit

Re: Outlook 2007, constant hard disk thrashing.

2009-10-22 Thread mross
No flames needed. There are plenty of things Kerio could improve. The archives definatly could use improvement. But it does fit our needs nicely. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District On Oct 22, 2009, at 6:16 PM, "Jim Majorowicz" wrote: Not to flame too much here, but we just picked up a

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
I'd believe you, except that I get reports from every scan of new bits of infestation, on at least 2 or three machines. Um, perhaps 'infestation' is not the right word. Let's say 'unwanted software' instead. Once in a while it's truly nasty, but more often is adware or some other silliness like the

RE: License compliance tracking

2009-10-22 Thread Ken Schaefer
I'm pretty sure that the Asset Intelligence piece does more than MS packages. It has a bunch of packages built in, and you can add your own: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb632714.aspx Cheers Ken From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] Sent: Thursday, 22 October

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Carl Houseman
All this turmoil over scheduled scans... tell me, what do scheduled scans find that real-time scanning won't catch? Scheduled scans are about as useful as software firewalls... Carl -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:26 PM

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
Most of our machines are about that old, but we tend to under-resource our machines - I finally had to put my foot down to get our engineers to 1gb of RAM, and in a few cases 2gb. I get complaints from those who stay late on Monday night, and I finally told them to get in the office earlier and go

RE: Outlook 2007, constant hard disk thrashing.

2009-10-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
I spent many years (7) working for ISPs, before I became an independent. Between our acquisitions and and customer takeovers, I've seen lots of mail servers, includin Kerio. The per-folder design is quite common. There are generally index files for each folder too. This is a standard Unix/Linux

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
A three year old Dell laptopnot anything special at all. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > You have a better machine than most of our folks, I suppose. We have > noticeable slowdowns on many of our machines. > > Still, it's *FAR* better than McAfee. > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
I have to agree with Tom. I've got Vipre installed at probably a dozen customers, and while a quick-scan is OK during the day, a full scan is VERY noticeable. At all my clients I've had to schedule that for off-hours, changing the default. I don't notice it on my laptops and PCs, but they are s

OTish: Verizon FIOS vs. Comcast Cable

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
All, Got a doorbeller on my front step today (took the day off) from Verizon - wants to sell us on his service. Currently we've got Comcast cable at about $65.00/mo - don't know the data rate. Verizon would cost about $55.00/mo - 15mbit down, 5mbit up. Neither one static IP, just consumer grade

RE: Outlook 2007, constant hard disk thrashing.

2009-10-22 Thread Jim Majorowicz
Not to flame too much here, but we just picked up a new client because their previous IT consultant had them using Kerio v. 6.7.1. The server that the Kerio server side software was running on had a hardware crash and needed to be restored from backup. For some reason I cannot begin to fathom, th

Gaping Security Hole Turns Cable Modems Into Hacker Prey - PC World

2009-10-22 Thread Sam Cayze
http://www.pcworld.com/article/174123/gaping_security_hole_turns_cable_m odems_into_hacker_prey.html Close Gaping Security Hole Turns Cable Modems Into Hacker Prey A blogger helping to tune a friend's wi-fi network uncovered a gaping security hole in Wi-Fi cable modem routers installed in 6

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
You have a better machine than most of our folks, I suppose. We have noticeable slowdowns on many of our machines. Still, it's *FAR* better than McAfee. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 17:52, Sherry Abercrombie wrote: > You can't be serious.I installed Vipre on my pc and started a deep scan > right

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 17:03, Ben Scott wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Jonathan Link > wrote: >>> Sorry, can't help. I hate to logoff my pc because the security team has >>> our AV do a full scan each time I logon. >> >> Or go to Vipre... > >  This isn't a brand X vs Y issue, it's a

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
You can't be serious.I installed Vipre on my pc and started a deep scan right as my lunch hour started. Played a FPS game at lunch and never noticed a performance hit at all. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Tom Miller wrote: > Wel, Vipre still bogs down our PCs here when th

RE: Anybody ever get Vista Ent 64 bit to run on an HP DL360 G5?

2009-10-22 Thread Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
The DL380 G5 (and probably the DL360) have an unusual network interface. HP has an intermediate network driver and a separate low level driver. I think this is so they can do the "teaming" where both Ethernet ports are active in a redundant or parallel fashion. Because of these special drivers (an

Anybody ever get Vista Ent 64 bit to run on an HP DL360 G5?

2009-10-22 Thread Mathew Shember
Have an unfortunate request to have Vista Ent running on a G5. It installs but the Broadcom Netextreame IIs will not start. Hp of course does not support Vista. Tried the 2008 and 2003 drivers. Tried the drivers from Broadcom. Still no luck. Just the message the system could not initialize..

Re: Ammo for apple mac sales pitch

2009-10-22 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Macs are not ready for the enterprise. Apple refuses to commit to support anything but their most recent hardware and software. As soon as the new version comes out, there is no way to support the older stuff. I have some older XServes which I can't replace the harddrives for. Nor could I get a

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: >> Sorry, can't help. I hate to logoff my pc because the security team has >> our AV do a full scan each time I logon. > > Or go to Vipre... This isn't a brand X vs Y issue, it's a lack-of-clue issue. The time to do a full AV scan is not at

Re: Ammo for apple mac sales pitch

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Glen Johnson wrote: > Our boss wants my assistant and me to meet with a rep > who wants us to put in some macs. I'll echo what ASB said: What's the ROI (return on investment) here? Everything in business boils down to ROI. *EVERYTHING*. Cost vs benefit.

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Tom Miller
Wel, Vipre still bogs down our PCs here when the weekly deep scan is running. We get the same complaints we had when we used Symantec. The quick scans are not noticed, but I'm bummed that the deep scan causes a very noticeable performance loss. It's set at low priority, but s

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Jonathan Link
Or go to Vipre... On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Eric Woodford wrote: > Sorry, can't help. I hate to logoff my pc because the security team has our > AV do a full scan each time I logon. It takes a good 2 hours of 100% > processing on my machine. The easy fix is to disable the AV, but... > > Ma

Re: Ammo for apple mac sales pitch

2009-10-22 Thread asbzone
What's the alleged business benefit for getting the Mac in your environment? Just start with that. If they want to do it anyway, add admin training and take advantage of any means to get more experience. If they can come with a business you still win. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBer

Ammo for apple mac sales pitch

2009-10-22 Thread Glen Johnson
Our boss wants my assistant and me to meet with a rep who wants us to put in some macs. We are a %100 windows shop, no mac experience and with only two of us, we really don't want any more added to our overloaded plates. Other than the cost to train one or both of us, cost for some centralized pa

RE: OT NTOP replacement

2009-10-22 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Kurt, my bad I could have sworn I saw that they were ceasing support for the windows platform. NTOP works incredibly well for what I want it to do. I can see the top three talkers at any time. I have it running on a vm and its backed up so I always will have it to run. I can live with that. th

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Eric Woodford
Sorry, can't help. I hate to logoff my pc because the security team has our AV do a full scan each time I logon. It takes a good 2 hours of 100% processing on my machine. The easy fix is to disable the AV, but... Maybe they just need to remove a few apps out of their startup, so it boots faster.

RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Joseph L. Casale
There might be better cases if you're not space strapped, I have a few 3U sm cases with many more HD's. Just get a quality mobo and an enterprisable raid card. Last we spoke John you were just getting your feet wet with Linux. If you're comfortable now, you can do some pretty hardcore HA for free

Re: ESX 3.5 patch management

2009-10-22 Thread John Cook
Yes IIRC John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Richard Stovall To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thu Oct 22 17:55:55 2009 Subject: RE: ESX 3.5 patch management I need to re-install UM, bu

RE: ESX 3.5 patch management

2009-10-22 Thread Richard Stovall
I need to re-install UM, but can't find a download for it (VC 2.5.0 build 147633). Is it on the VC installation media? -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ESX 3.5 patch man

RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Matthew W. Ross
I'm with Ben here; Pick up two of these... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101259 Deck them out with processors, memory, OS of choice. Get the SAS/SATA controller(s) you like, (Adaptec, LSI, Areca, whatever) and fill it with 8 server grade 2TB hard drives... then wonder

RE: ESX 3.5 patch management

2009-10-22 Thread Andy Ognenoff
You're correct, Update Manager solves it if you have VC. The VMTS Patch Manager worked without it. - Andy O. >-Original Message- >From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] >Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:54 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: ESX 3.5 patch management

Re: OT NTOP replacement

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:28, Eldridge, Dave wrote: > Due to the fact that NTOP really is no longer supported I am looking to > replace it with a virtual VM appliance to monitor my internet connection. > > Looking for something that is similar and easy to setup and use. > > Is Cacti a good replac

RE: Symantec SEP on 2008 R2

2009-10-22 Thread James Hill
I can confirm that RU5 works ok on Win7 so I'd expect R2 to be ok as well. I'm also only installing the AV and Truscan protection. The network protection has always been a pita. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Friday, 23 October 2009 3:55 AM To

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Scot Parsons wrote: > Set it up to reboot every night and tell him/her it’s because of patching. The BOFH is strong in you. /me is impressed -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Scot Parsons
Set it up to reboot every night and tell him/her it's because of patching. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down I ASSume you push patches. He/she

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Andrew Levicki wrote: > So, I'm still left with the software updates and deployments, which require > restarts. When I have to force updates via startup scripts, I have a batch file called "reboot_the_world.CMD" that I use to reboot any running workstations. I r

DFS question

2009-10-22 Thread Tom Miller
I am using DFS to replicate data from a few small sites to a storage server here at HQ for nightly backup. Is it correct that I only need the DFS Role (Windows 2008 servers) installed on the server to which the data is being replicated? The files seems to be replicated as expected, just want t

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Cameron Cooper
You can setup in GPO to lock the computer after a certain amount of time and then setup a scheduled task to use the shutdown.exe command to turn the computer off. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax:

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Andrew Levicki
Thanks for all the input, serious or otherwise. Good point about power management, that will address the power consumption issue. I will look into that. So, I'm still left with the software updates and deployments, which require restarts. They do lock their workstation, luckily. Maybe you're rig

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Jacob
Sleep mode? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Andrew Levicki wrote: > They claim that it tak

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread James Kerr
What about policies that don't get applied except at boot time, managed software installs, changes that are made by login scripts. We have many staff who just step away from their PCs at the end of the day. I have the machines lock after 15 minutes of idle time. All the time I'll get a ticket st

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Jacob
Determine what the issue is with "takes too long to start up" From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down Hi, I've got a user who doesn't want to log off le

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
shutdown -s -m \\computer-name -f -t 0 done. From: Andrew Levicki [and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down Ah a misunderstanding on my part, I didn't r

RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Joseph L. Casale
What do you plan on putting in front of this beast? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System Redundant power supplies, redundant

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Mike Gill
Locking the workstation doesn't address software updates or deployments being missed, among other things. Andrew should look into why it takes the computer so long to log in that someone would complain. My 3+ year old Dell desktop takes 5 seconds or a little more to be at a useable desktop in V

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Or... from their email account... "Dear , Let me tell you how I believe this company needs to be run" From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Andrew Levicki wrote: > I just want them to do > what everyone else manages to do which is turn off at night. Why are you so dead set on shutting down the PC at night? Do you have a reason? Just curious... :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that

Re: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Jonathan Link
I don't think you understand what it is that sales people do... On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:36 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > Redundant power supplies, redundant NICs, server-class hardware (including > enterprise SATA drives) their Intellectual Property embedded in the > hardware. Windows Server OS, Do

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Andrew Levicki wrote: > They claim that it takes too long and > they haven't got time to wait to log on > again or start up. So let them stay logged in. That's what I normally do. I've often got over a dozen windows open, some with dozens of documents/tabs. I

RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Richard Stovall
OMG! You HAVE been staring at your screen too long! One of your eyes keeps closing when you type. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage Syste

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Gary Whitten
I assume they also don't lock it? As was pointed out, that's easy enough to configure. _ From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down Hi, I've got a use

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread John Cook
Then skip the complain part! He or She will get the idea.. or just send out a list of everyones salary from their email account. I'm just feeling evil today John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Salvador Manzo
Password expiration can be a problem, however (at least, that's what I've seen on XP... especially if the person uses multiple computers at any point.) From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:33 PM To: NT Sy

RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Richard Stovall
If you could get her to shop at Barney's or Bergdorf Goodman you could save even more! -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread John Aldrich
Redundant power supplies, redundant NICs, server-class hardware (including enterprise SATA drives) their Intellectual Property embedded in the hardware. Windows Server OS, DoubleTake (about $3k there for two copies.) Still not convinced that is the way to go. I had another prospective vendor call m

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Andrew Levicki
Ah a misunderstanding on my part, I didn't realise that Kerberos renewed tickets automatically. So my only real point is the power consumption. I just want them to do what everyone else manages to do which is turn off at night. 2009/10/22 Michael B. Smith > I ASSume you push patches. He/she may

Re: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Richard Stovall wrote: >> "2TB SATA disks @ $200 x 6 = $800" > > Is that the new math my mom always complains about? No, that's the "I've been staring at my computer screen too long today" math. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a re

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Jonathan Link
Industrial espionage? Don't know your industry or circumstances, but if they're important enough that "you can't force them to do so" then they are important enough to have access to critical and sensitive information that they leave accessible for anyone whenever they're out of the office. At the

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
I ASSume you push patches. He/she may lose whatever they were working on when a patch session forces a reboot. Dunno what you mean by "ticket expiration" as Kerberos will renew tickets automatically. From: Andrew Levicki [and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, Oc

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Set the timeout to at least lock the workstation? From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down Hi, I've got a user who doesn't want to log off let alone shut

Re: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Andrew Levicki
He or she is in HR! 2009/10/22 John Cook > Put some pron on his desktop and complain to HR…… J > > > > *John W. Cook* > > *Systems Administrator* > > *Partnership For Strong Families* > > *315 SE 2nd Ave* > > *Gainesville, Fl 32601* > > *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* > > *Cell (352) 215-6944*

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Richard Stovall
Can they hit the Windows key and L at the same time? If not, you can do it for them using Group Policy. From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down Hi, I'v

RE: User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread John Cook
Put some pron on his desktop and complain to HR.. :) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew Levicki [m

RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
It's like the new math my s/o uses - she goes to Macy's and spends $500 and comes home and tells me that she's saved me a thousand bucks! From: Richard Stovall [richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:29 PM To: NT System Admin

User who doesn't like logging off / shutting down

2009-10-22 Thread Andrew Levicki
Hi, I've got a user who doesn't want to log off let alone shut down their computer. They claim that it takes too long and they haven't got time to wait to log on again or start up. They're important enough that I can't force them to do so, but I'm worried about possible problems. The only detrime

RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Richard Stovall
"2TB SATA disks @ $200 x 6 = $800" Is that the new math my mom always complains about? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System On Thu, O

RE: Large File transfer

2009-10-22 Thread IS Technical
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:39:53 -0400, Bob Fronk wrote: >"Easy to use". LOL. You don't have some of my users! >We have an FTP site, but users struggle with it. I am looking to limit IT involvement in these transfers. >An internal web form of some sort with "send to" "from" and "attach f

Re: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > Under $20K for two, in theory. It does not have redundant > controllers as it’s essentially a server with lots of direct > attached storage (up to 12 Tb) 2TB SATA disks @ $200 x 6 = $800 Off-the-shelf PC with 6 SATA ports = $800 What's

Re: Outside connection

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Jay Dale wrote: > That's the problem - we're given these parameters and told to make it > work...:) Oh, great... :) You'll prolly want to kick this back to the client with a request for more information. Such ill-defined requirements almost always end up to

RE: HP StorageWorks X1600 Network Storage System

2009-10-22 Thread Joseph L. Casale
That sounds like way to much that thing imho... I've seen inside that chassis and it's really not impressive. For that cash I would buy a couple of servers and some das, or use the cash it in a more sophisticated setup. Wow... ymmv, jlc From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Se

RE: Outside connection

2009-10-22 Thread Jay Dale
That's the problem - we're given these parameters and told to make it work...:) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Outside connection On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jay Dale

Re: Outside connection

2009-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jay Dale wrote: > How can I set this up? You'll probabbly need to do something with the firewall and the VPN. (Vague answer for a vague question. For a start, you might tell us the VPN products/protocols in use, what traffic you want to transport between whe

RE: ESX 3.5 patch management

2009-10-22 Thread Mayo, Bill
I am not sure if there is some special licensing required, but we do this using VMWare Update Manager through VirtualCenter. VMWare Update Manager is a plugin to VirtualCenter. Obviously, if you do not have VirtualCenter, it is not an option, but the software indicated below looks to require V

RE: OT NTOP replacement

2009-10-22 Thread Neil Standley
PRTG Network Monitor. Easy to use, flexible. www.Paessler.com Neil From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT NTOP replacement Due to the fact that NTOP really is no longer supported I am

OT NTOP replacement

2009-10-22 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Due to the fact that NTOP really is no longer supported I am looking to replace it with a virtual VM appliance to monitor my internet connection. Looking for something that is similar and easy to setup and use. Is Cacti a good replacement? Any others? dave This message contains confi

Re: Constantly getting locked of 2003 domain

2009-10-22 Thread Jason Morris
+1 once all the machines are off the network, look at your logs again to see if another machine was infected in the meantime. We had some usb keys that were infected recently. It's not fun once it infects a machine. * Thank you, Jason Morris __

RE: ESX 3.5 patch management

2009-10-22 Thread Richard Stovall
Thanks. I just ran across it and thought I'd ask around. -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ESX 3.5 patch management I used it on 3.0.x but it doesn't work on 3.5.x (to m

RE: ESX 3.5 patch management

2009-10-22 Thread Andy Ognenoff
I used it on 3.0.x but it doesn’t work on 3.5.x (to my knowledge anyways – never could get it to work after the upgrade.)  - Andy O. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:28 PM To: NT System Adm

Re: Constantly getting locked of 2003 domain

2009-10-22 Thread Jonathan Link
I recommend, containment followed by re-imaging/rebuilding. While Conficker is not detected, you have behavior that is definitely virus like, Conficker being the most possible recent example. It's possible that you've acquired some new variant that the detectors can't catch. Bottom line, you're

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