RE: Abandoning Cisco

reason to try them again. _ From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Abandoning Cisco I tried Sonicwall. First box I got randomly shut down and I had to return. Second one had some other issue which I can

Re: Abandoning Cisco

n't say if its good or bad. Any issue I've ever had I was able to figure out using the user forum. I've been using Watchguard since 97. James - Original Message - From: Erik Goldoff To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:23 PM Subj

RE: Abandoning Cisco

e out . _ From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Abandoning Cisco Ooo, snap! I use SonicWALL myself, but I'd rather use Juniper. -- ME2 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 a

Re: Abandoning Cisco

PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Abandoning Cisco > > > > +1 > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Jay Dale wrote: > > I use SonicWalls almost exclusively now over PIX. Previously > experienced WatchGuards and Untangle devices, but prefer Son

RE: Abandoning Cisco

-1 _ From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Abandoning Cisco +1 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Jay Dale wrote: I use SonicWalls almost exclusively now over PIX. Previously

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+1 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Jay Dale wrote: > I use SonicWalls almost exclusively now over PIX. Previously > experienced WatchGuards and Untangle devices, but prefer Sonicwall now. > > Jay > > -Original Message- > From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, S

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I use SonicWalls almost exclusively now over PIX. Previously experienced WatchGuards and Untangle devices, but prefer Sonicwall now. Jay -Original Message- From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Abandon

Re: Abandoning Cisco

Linux is a whole lot better than it was in 2000. AND it is becoming more like Windows is certain ways. Don't take the two sentences above to be dependent on each other. ::runs away from inevitable thread derailment::: -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Ben Sco

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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: >>> What a ringing endorsement! Heh. >> >>  You left out "... if you're coming from BSD". > > True enough - it just struck me as funny. Yah, I got it. :) Reminds me of this Dave Barry quote: "Microsoft has a new version out, Windows XP, whi

Re: Abandoning Cisco

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:19, Ben Scott wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: >> Not that bad... >> >> What a ringing endorsement! Heh. > >  You left out "... if you're coming from BSD".  I took tat as more of > a comment that a Windows-only guy who can't live without a mou

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Pf rocks. That is all. -sc > -Original Message- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:20 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Abandoning Cisco > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Kurt Buff >

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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Not that bad... > > What a ringing endorsement! Heh. You left out "... if you're coming from BSD". I took tat as more of a comment that a Windows-only guy who can't live without a mouse would be lost. That would be my take as well. CentOS

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al 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From: Kurt Buff To: "NT System Admin Issues" Date: 17/09/2009 17:33 Subject: Re: Abandoning Cisco Not that bad... What a ringing endorsement! Heh. I'm still going to investigate Vyatta, and see if they support the Sang

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gt; Well.. we have two DS3s maybe he is in the p0rn industry. ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:58 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Abandoning Cisco > > > > DS3

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Not that bad... What a ringing endorsement! Heh. I'm still going to investigate Vyatta, and see if they support the Sangoma card. I know it's built on top of a Linux distro, but can't remember which one. Failing that, I will probably gravitate to CentOS, as spending $11k isn't very palatable in

RE: Abandoning Cisco

Well.. we have two DS3s maybe he is in the p0rn industry. ;-) -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Abandoning Cisco DS3? Holy cow! Haven't you written here

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We tried the PIX years ago.. did not like it. Moved to Netscreen... never looked back. -Original Message- From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Abandoning Cisco Has anyone else looked at abandoning Cis

RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED)

5505 -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED) Thanks. What model do you have? -Original Message- From: N Parr

RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED)

Thanks. What model do you have? -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED) I'm sure it can but we don't because we don't care for the

RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED)

rsday, September 17, 2009 9:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED) If it fails over to the second ISP, does it automagically make your published internal resources (webservers, etc.) available to the outside on the backup connection? Sort of a poor man'

RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED)

ssage- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED) I agree for the price and simplicity. And I don't claim to be a Cisco guru by any means. We have one that runs everything i

RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED)

--- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED) Not that anybody cares, but I can spell "differences". I think I changed the original sentence and don't know how I wou

RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED)

RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: FOUO Get a Juniper... -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco Expensive? Ou

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tin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco That's one of things we do is help people move out of their Cisco hardware. Currently a very hot item with customers is Palo Alto Networks. People are f

RE: Abandoning Cisco (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: FOUO Get a Juniper... -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco Expensive? Our Pix cost over $8000 in 2001, we

RE: Abandoning Cisco

:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Abandoning Cisco Fedora and CentOS are not that bad, if you're coming from FreeBSD. I would definitely look at CentOS, because Fedora has a high entropy factor. I've always been a huge BSD fan, but it's utility is being marginalized all

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Fedora and CentOS are not that bad, if you're coming from FreeBSD. I would definitely look at CentOS, because Fedora has a high entropy factor. I've always been a huge BSD fan, but it's utility is being marginalized all the time. Really wish that community would wake up. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at

RE: Abandoning Cisco

amazing things but since I play in the small business market (50-250 employees) I don’t find much use for their complexity. -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Abandoning

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Well, we *are* a relatively small firm. But, we've got about 230 people on site, including about 80-90 (if memory serves) hardware and software engineers, and then there are the sales staff, and our customer installation/support staff, etc. We do need relatively serious bandwidth, though we couldn

RE: Abandoning Cisco

That's one of things we do is help people move out of their Cisco hardware. Currently a very hot item with customers is Palo Alto Networks. People are falling in love with these devices. If you haven't checked them out yet, you should at least take a look. PS, I don't work on the networking side o

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DS3? Holy cow! Haven't you written here that you're at a small mfg facility or something like that? What on earth do you use all that bandwidth for? > I *love* my Sidewinders. When I purchased them it was from Secure > Computing, but they've since been bought by McAfee, I'm afraid. > > The

Re: Abandoning Cisco

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 13:58, mqcarp wrote: > Has anyone else looked at abandoning Cisco for their firewall? We have > PIXs and they are trying to get us to move to ASA now that they are > phasing out. The ASA is very expensive and from what I hear, very > complicated to manage. > > We are a medi

RE: Abandoning Cisco

, Networks, & Security -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco The ASA is a natural progression from a PIX to me ... And I wouldn't say very complicated

RE: Abandoning Cisco

The ASA is a natural progression from a PIX to me ... And I wouldn't say very complicated to manage if you're already used to the way Cisco does things ... Pricewise, the Cisco ASA starts under $400 , that's comparable to Juniper, and I guess Sonicwall too ... I haven't touched a sonicwall in 5

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The ASA don't seem much more complicated than the PIX. That said, I have always been a fan of the Juniper Netscreen firewalls. SonicWall isn't a bad choice, either. What size network are you supporting in terms of bandwidth, number of interfaces, and total devices? -ASB: http://xeesm.com/Andrew

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tync.gov] > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:10 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco > > Expensive?  Our Pix cost over $8000 in 2001, we bought *2* ASA's to > replace it and still paid less than that in 2007.  There are some > differents

RE: Abandoning Cisco

[mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Abandoning Cisco Expensive? Our Pix cost over $8000 in 2001, we bought *2* ASA's to replace it and still paid less than that in 2007. There are some differents in the OS be

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Correctly sized cisco devices are cost-effective. If you're using any other cisco gear (routers, switches, etc), I'd recommend staying with them. Interop with other vendors' products can be a nightmare. We've got a few clients with things like watchguards and when they have to talk to a cisco box,

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As Bill pointed out the price is much lower. Ours was about 1/3rd the price of the PIX. Jon On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Jon Harris wrote: > IMO the ASA was easier to setup and manage than the PIX. > > Jon > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:58 PM, mqcarp wrote: > >> Has anyone else looked at

Re: Abandoning Cisco

IMO the ASA was easier to setup and manage than the PIX. Jon On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:58 PM, mqcarp wrote: > Has anyone else looked at abandoning Cisco for their firewall? We have > PIXs and they are trying to get us to move to ASA now that they are > phasing out. The ASA is very expensive and

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Expensive? Our Pix cost over $8000 in 2001, we bought *2* ASA's to replace it and still paid less than that in 2007. There are some differents in the OS between the Pix and ASA, but they are very similar. If you can manage a Pix, you can manage an ASA--at least in my experience. -Origin

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Don't let Dr. Tom here you say you're moving away from ASA... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~