RE: SAN vendors

2010-09-14 Thread Steven M. Caesare
My frame of reference is different from his. -sc -Original Message- From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SAN vendors Einstein said you weren't relevant. ;) WJR - from my Crack

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2010-09-14 Thread Steven Peck
force* it to reply in plain-text-only > for certain addresses. I will have to research how to do that. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:39 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues &g

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2010-09-14 Thread John Aldrich
y in plain-text-only for certain addresses. I will have to research how to do that. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors You'd be surprised what'

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2010-09-14 Thread William J. Robbins
John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors No, my home email client is KMail. Linux is the O/S. I figured it would be understood that the computer at home was running Linux from what I said and

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2010-09-14 Thread Steven M. Caesare
ridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors No, my home email client is KMail. Linux is the O/S. I figured it would be understood that the computer at home was running Linux from what I said and I figured a lot of people on this list

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2010-09-14 Thread Steven M. Caesare
No, that’s a virus. -sc From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SAN vendors You mean my Windows Live email is an application? WJR - from my Crackberry. "If you find yourself in a

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2010-09-14 Thread John Aldrich
* email client I use on my Linux box. :-) From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SAN vendors “Linux” is your home email client? You keep making applications assertions about the OS. Why? -sc

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2010-09-14 Thread William J. Robbins
em Admin Issues" Subject: Re: SAN vendors “Linux” is your home email client? You keep making applications assertions about the OS. Why? -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:53 AM To: NT S

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2010-09-14 Thread Steven M. Caesare
“Linux” is your home email client? You keep making applications assertions about the OS. Why? -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors Well

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2010-09-14 Thread James Kerr
Yeah, gmail is where its at.We have a huge footer/disclaimer that goes out with every email from my job also. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:57 AM Subject: Re: SAN vendors Uhh... You can. Also

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2010-09-14 Thread William J. Robbins
+11 for Gmail. And the price is right. WJR - from my Crackberry. "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." -Original Message- From: Jonathan Link Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:57:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" Subj

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2010-09-14 Thread William J. Robbins
0 08:53:16 To: NT System Admin Issues Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" Subject: RE: SAN vendors Well, I wouldn't say "contractually obligated" but I would put it as "strongly encouraged." I'll try and remember to switch to plain text for this list. :

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2010-09-14 Thread Jonathan Link
se, etc. I wish Outlook had similar capabilities. > :-( > > > > From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 5:10 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: SAN vendors > > Gotcha. So are you contractually obligated to send t

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2010-09-14 Thread John Aldrich
y. "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." From: "John Aldrich" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:05:27 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" Subject: RE: SAN vendors The Sig line is a small picture of one of our

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2010-09-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
The full VSA isn't free. I guess it comes down to what level of redundancy you want. >From what you're saying it sounds like you run everything right now on a >couple of servers with direct-attached storage? If so, you could almost certainly run the whole lot on a single new server, still usin

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2010-09-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
uirements, you just want to get the best bang for your buck and you have to spend wisely (I know as I'm in the SAN market right now). From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 13 September 2010 18:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors Ok... good ques

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2010-09-13 Thread Jonathan Link
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Please hear me this time. If you do not nail down your requirements, vendors are certainly going to overwhelm you during the process. Once you have your requirements nailed down, it becomes fairly trivial to exclude vendors from your list. You're lett

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2010-09-13 Thread John Aldrich
Yeah. expensive too. John-AldrichPerception_2 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors Dell/EMC comes to mind.. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday

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2010-09-13 Thread John Aldrich
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors John, what do you need? Capacity? Expansion? Features (now and potentially future)? Performance? From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr

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2010-09-13 Thread Steve Ens
Perception_2] > > > > *From:* Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] > *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 12:53 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: SAN vendors > > > > My Vendor of choice is http://storagebyeagle.com/ But then again they ar

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2010-09-13 Thread Kevin Lundy
IBM and "Budget SAN". Isn't that an oxymoron? On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:48 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > Ok, I’m still in the market for a SAN. I got an IBM rep trying to sell me > one of their SANs (rebranded LSI Logic) and I have an HP vendor trying to > sell me a LeftHand. On the one hand (no

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2010-09-13 Thread John Aldrich
: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors My Vendor of choice is http://storagebyeagle.com/ But then again they are close by, and offer some extras that you will not find from anyone else I have

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2010-09-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
John, what do you need? Capacity? Expansion? Features (now and potentially future)? Performance? From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 13 September 2010 17:49 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SAN vendors Ok, I'm still in the market for a SAN. I got an IBM re

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2010-09-13 Thread Terry Dickson
My Vendor of choice is http://storagebyeagle.com/ But then again they are close by, and offer some extras that you will not find from anyone else I have talked to. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subje

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2009-12-10 Thread John Aldrich
Well, the reseller has seen the light. He's going to put me in touch with a couple of *his* clients that are running the AMI SAN. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:

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2009-12-04 Thread John Aldrich
ask for a demo unit. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SAN vendors Nope, not heard of them. In going down the road you're going down last year, I came u

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2009-12-04 Thread Jonathan Link
Nope, not heard of them. In going down the road you're going down last year, I came up with a set of requirements for a SAN. I then judged each product I came across on where it stood in relation to that list. Until you do that, you're going to continually chase your tail. I also did my own res

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2009-11-24 Thread John Aldrich
Thanks. Always looking for more good vendors. :-) -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors Not sure if you will get that good of pricing but call Eagle

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2009-11-24 Thread Terry Dickson
: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors Who was the reseller? Our reseller isn't very responsive and the quote they got me was way out of my price range. John-AldrichTile-Tools

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2009-11-24 Thread John Aldrich
Who was the reseller? Our reseller isn't very responsive and the quote they got me was way out of my price range. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors

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2009-11-24 Thread John Aldrich
reseller and ruin the business relationship with that reseller.) John-AldrichTile-Tools From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors Wow I can't type today. Already in vacation mode.

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2009-11-24 Thread John Aldrich
Thanks. I may give that a shot. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors Wow I can't type today. Already in vacation mode. _ From: N Parr [mailto

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2009-11-24 Thread N Parr
Wow I can't type today. Already in vacation mode. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors Then you need to tell your VAR to get more aggressive. I was of

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2009-11-24 Thread N Parr
drich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN vendors Err... Equallogic? Can't afford 'em. L They're out of my price range. Remember, I need to get TWO storage appliances for under $30K installed.

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2009-11-24 Thread Chyka, Robert
vendors Err... Equallogic? Can't afford 'em. :-( They're out of my price range. Remember, I need to get TWO storage appliances for under $30K installed. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues S

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2009-11-24 Thread John Aldrich
ues Subject: RE: SAN vendors EQ _ From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SAN vendors Ok, guys.maybe I'm going about this the wrong way. if you wanted two storage appliances, one a

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2009-11-24 Thread N Parr
EQ From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SAN vendors Ok, guys...maybe I'm going about this the wrong way... if you wanted two storage appliances, one a redundant a