Hi Arial,
I (simonbr) will be updating the Dutch NL homepage.
Best regards
Simon
Op 1 mei 2012 om 4:19 schreef Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org:
Hi Rob, *
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 03:41:29PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
The following tasks are on the wiki and need owners:
On Monday, 30. April 2012 at 21:57, Donald Harbison wrote:
I have a Xing account, but of course, do not speak German.
I'm happy to be one of the moderators.
well there is an English part as well but I wouldn't expect too much activities
there. I can add you.
I have received already a
Hi all
Am 30.04.12 21:41, schrieb Rob Weir:
The following tasks are on the wiki and need owners:
[...]
Manually update the downloads from the German NL homepage
Nik and I take over this part. We have allready worked on this over the
week-end and will finish today evening or tomorrow
Greetings
The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous, and very demotivating
for me to continue to work on it. I've put the updated draft chapters on the
ODFAuthors website and will put the compiled draft book there soon. Then I'll
go back to my travel photos and to the LibreOffice books.
Hi,
Le 01/05/2012 12:23, Jean Weber a écrit :
The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous,
and very demotivating for me to continue to work on it.
What about wait for the Apache OpenOffice availability *before* to stop ?
IMHO, it should be more easy to find contributors once we'll
Hi Kay,
Kay Schenk schrieb:
Regina--
Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschelrb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:
Hi,
my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
[..]
With Opera 11.62
On 01/05/2012, at 20:37, eric eric.bach...@free.fr wrote:
Hi,
Le 01/05/2012 12:23, Jean Weber a écrit :
The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous,
and very demotivating for me to continue to work on it.
What about wait for the Apache OpenOffice availability *before* to stop
Hi there,
a few words to introduce myself.
My name is Giuseppe Castagno, I live in very small town near Turin, Italy.
I'm 56 years old and I work as a free-lance programmer.
I participated in OpenOffice.org, there I was known as beppec56 (at
openoffice.org).
Years back, in OpenOffice.org I
Hi Giuseppe
Am 01.05.12 13:25, schrieb Giuseppe Castagno:
Hi there,
a few words to introduce myself.
My name is Giuseppe Castagno, I live in very small town near Turin,
Italy.
I'm 56 years old and I work as a free-lance programmer.
I participated in OpenOffice.org, there I was known as
Jean, et al.
On 2012-05-01, at 06:23 , Jean Weber wrote:
The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous, and very demotivating
for me to continue to work on it. I've put the updated draft chapters on the
ODFAuthors website and will put the compiled draft book there soon. Then I'll
Hi.
2012/4/29 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com
Hi.
2012/4/29 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
wrote:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto
biasut...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi.
2012/4/28 Dave Fisher
Hi
2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com:
Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ?
As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil.
Very good, Albino. For brazilian profile is essential this social
networks. I think that you can do for pt-BR in Twitter and
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com:
Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ?
As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil.
Very good, Albino. For brazilian profile is essential
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Nancy K nancythirt...@yahoo.com wrote:
Golly, a BIRTHDAY - I downloaded a free trial Illustrator and worked this up
really quickly. It just didn't seem right not to attempt something for a 10
year old! I read that Apache celebrated their birthday in
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
I'm already starting to get questions on what we'll be doing after AOO
3.4 is released. Based on previous conversations on this list, I'm
able to speak confidently about a few things:
1) We'll probably graduate to a Top
Benvenuto Giuseppe!
On 05/01/12 06:25, Giuseppe Castagno wrote:
Hi there,
a few words to introduce myself.
My name is Giuseppe Castagno, I live in very small town near Turin,
Italy.
I'm 56 years old and I work as a free-lance programmer.
I participated in OpenOffice.org, there I was known
Today, among the 100 version strings the users need to scroll through
in BZ, we have AOO340-dev.
What do we want after we release AOO 3.4?
Add AOO340? (Or just rename AOO340-dev to AOO340?)
Add AOO341-dev?
Add AOO450-dev?
Also, are there any products that can be removed or demoted to
Hi.
2012/5/1 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com
2012/5/1 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
1) Do we have a ooo-geral-ptbr mailing list set up already? If not,
I'd recommend starting with that. Having a strong pt_br presence in
the project, to support translation, marketing, communications and
I was lead for en-GB prior to the move to Apache.
I have signed an ICLA and would request committer status so that I could
have Pootle access once again.
en-GB is very, very, close to being complete - several city and town
councils and a major newspaper are using OpenOffice en-GB in the UK and
Hello,
I mean that in any case I'm available to help publicize the project
whether or not a PPMC member. I think Brazil has a great potential and
can work well with Apache OpenOffice.
rgds,
Luiz Oliveira
Em 01-05-2012 11:55, Albino Biasutti Neto escreveu:
Hi.
2012/5/1 Claudio Filho
2012/5/1 luizheli luizh...@gmail.com:
I mean that in any case I'm available to help publicize the project
whether or not a PPMC member. I think Brazil has a great potential and
can work well with Apache OpenOffice.
Luiz, maybe is a good idea you introduce your self in a new thread.
Best,
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 12:23, Jean Weber wrote:
The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous, and very demotivating
for me to continue to work on it. I've put the updated draft chapters on the
ODFAuthors website and will put the compiled draft book there soon. Then I'll
go
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 16:13, Rob Weir wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Nancy K nancythirt...@yahoo.com wrote:
Golly, a BIRTHDAY - I downloaded a free trial Illustrator and worked this
up really quickly. It just didn't seem right not to attempt something for
a 10 year old!
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Nancy K nancythirt...@yahoo.com wrote:
Golly, a BIRTHDAY - I downloaded a free trial Illustrator and worked this
up really quickly. It just didn't seem right not to attempt something for
a 10 year old! I read that Apache celebrated their birthday in
ok Claudio,
Thanks
Luiz
Em 01-05-2012 12:31, Claudio Filho escreveu:
2012/5/1 luizheli luizh...@gmail.com:
I mean that in any case I'm available to help publicize the project
whether or not a PPMC member. I think Brazil has a great potential and
can work well with Apache OpenOffice.
Luiz,
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:
Kay- I've setup a new script for you to use for
Openoffice downloads from Apache mirrors- simply
replace closer.cgi with aoo-closer.cgi in your
paths. Please don't forget this or users could
be directed to mirrors
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:
Hi Kay,
Kay Schenk schrieb:
Regina--
Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschelrb.henschel@t-online.**
de rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 16:41, Rob Weir wrote:
Today, among the 100 version strings the users need to scroll through
in BZ, we have AOO340-dev.
What do we want after we release AOO 3.4?
Add AOO340? (Or just rename AOO340-dev to AOO340?)
Renaming sounds good to me and all issues with
Hi.
I created account AOOBr social networking:
identi.ca and twitter: @apacheoobr
Best,
Albino @bino28
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 16:58, Stuart Swales wrote:
I was lead for en-GB prior to the move to Apache.
I have signed an ICLA and would request committer status so that I could
have Pootle access once again.
en-GB is very, very, close to being complete - several city and town
councils
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Juergen Schmidt
jogischm...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 12:23, Jean Weber wrote:
The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous, and very
demotivating for me to continue to work on it. I've put the updated draft
chapters on the
On 2012/04/29 00:06, Ian Lynch said:
Here is a fully svg version. It's close but not absolutely identical, not
sure how important that is. Got to rush to the gym now. Only 16k
Thank you. I'm looking for the AOO SVG logo at the same time. I
have an additional question: Where can I find
Hi,
I am Luiz Oliveira, a journalistfrom Brazil. I led for a time
the nationwide BrOffice users group. At the time we still had a
magazine[1] created to give tips on the use of OpenOffice.org suite /
BrOffice, designed by my friend Claudio Filho. I helped organize some
editions of the National
Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
I'm jumping in and speaking as a mentor of AOO and ASF VP of
Community Development.
Thanks - and just to be clear, I'm only speaking as an ordinary
contributing member of SPI, who felt a responsibility to ask what I
felt were obvious questions. So, I
Hi Luiz.
2012/5/1 luizheli luizh...@gmail.com
Hi,
I am Luiz Oliveira, a journalistfrom Brazil. I led for a time
the nationwide BrOffice users group. At the time we still had a
magazine[1] created to give tips on the use of OpenOffice.org suite /
BrOffice, designed by my friend Claudio
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 22:59 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
On 19 April 2012 17:24, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote:
1. Are those SGA's unmodified, and/or does the scope extend
beyond the plain list of files, and just one version of
them ?
The SGAs
On 1 May 2012 17:35, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
On 2012/04/29 00:06, Ian Lynch said:
Here is a fully svg version. It's close but not absolutely identical, not
sure how important that is. Got to rush to the gym now. Only 16k
Thank you. I'm looking for the AOO SVG logo at
On 2012/05/02 01:09, Ian Lynch said:
On 1 May 2012 17:35, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
On 2012/04/29 00:06, Ian Lynch said:
have an additional question: Where can I find the Nimbus Sans L font?
Is it the same as Liberation Sans? Or is it free to download somewhere?
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
We accept relatively small contributions without an ICLA. But all
contributions get reviewed, and all releases go through scans (what we
call RAT == Release Audit Tool) and are voted on in a transparent,
open process.
RAT
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
We accept relatively small contributions without an ICLA. But all
contributions get reviewed, and all releases go through scans (what we
call RAT
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 22:59 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
On 19 April 2012 17:24, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote:
1. Are those SGA's unmodified, and/or does the scope extend
beyond the
On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 22:59 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
On 19 April 2012 17:24, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote:
1. Are those SGA's unmodified, and/or
On 4/30/12 11:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Am 04/30/2012 07:00 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com �wrote:
snip
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 22:59 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
On 19 April 2012 17:24, Michael Meeks
On 05/01/12 12:20, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
...
For larger contributions, an ICLA (or an SGA) is in order. Ditto for
smaller ones, if there are questions/concerns. Remember, any
committer can veto a patch. So incoming patches without an ICLA need
to meet a high bar to get into the code. My
Am 05/01/2012 06:24 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 16:41, Rob Weir wrote:
Today, among the 100 version strings the users need to scroll through
in BZ, we have AOO340-dev.
What do we want after we release AOO 3.4?
Add AOO340? (Or just rename AOO340-dev to AOO340?)
Michael, Michael ...
On 05/01/12 11:38, Michael Meeks wrote:
Hi Rob,
So what exactly LO has is license soup as far as I am concerned.
The situation is reasonably simple currently; yet it is of course made
un-necessarily difficult by IBM Oracle's insistence on choosing yet
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
jogischm...@googlemail.comwrote:
On 4/30/12 11:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
wrote:
Am 04/30/2012 07:00 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
Am 05/01/2012 08:23 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
On 4/30/12 11:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
wrote:
Am 04/30/2012 07:00 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay
On 05/01/12 12:07, Michael Meeks wrote:
...
or something - though, clearly there are prolly some interesting new
files there too - which would fall foul of the list in the SGA I guess.
Anyhow - most interested in the status of those.
Of course we don't release CWSs at all, those
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Am 05/01/2012 08:23 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
On 4/30/12 11:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
wrote:
Am
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 22:10, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
jogischm...@googlemail.comwrote:
On 4/30/12 11:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Marcus
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 22:11, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
Am 05/01/2012 08:23 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
On 4/30/12 11:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
wrote:
Am
On 04/30/2012 12:41 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
The following tasks are on the wiki and need owners:
Manually update the downloads from the Arabic NL homepage
Manually update the downloads from the Czech NL homepage
Manually update the downloads from the German NL homepage
Manually update the
Am 05/01/2012 10:27 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Am 05/01/2012 08:23 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
On 4/30/12 11:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:47 PM,
On 05/01/2012 01:58 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 22:10, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
jogischm...@googlemail.comwrote:
On 4/30/12 11:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
On Mon,
Hi Rob,
Rob Weir schrieb:
[..]
Also, are there any products that can be removed or demoted to
components under another product? What we have now is simpler than
what we had with OOo, but it is still very complicated with a lot of
dead wood at the top level.
Yes, the list is far too large.
On 1 May 2012 17:08, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:41 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
The following tasks are on the wiki and need owners:
Manually update the downloads from the Arabic NL homepage
Manually update the downloads from the Czech NL homepage
Manually update the
Am 05/01/2012 11:09 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
On Tuesday, 1. May 2012 at 22:11, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
Am 05/01/2012 08:23 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
On 4/30/12 11:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/30/2012 12:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Marcus
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous, and very
demotivating for me to continue to work on it. I've put the updated draft
chapters on the
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous, and very
demotivating for me
Hi Joe,
I now understand what needs to be done to use the aoo-closer.cgi as a webpage
of our own design.
For example:
(1) Create create trunk/cgi-bin/aoo-download.cgi in the project or ooo-site
using the aoo-mirrors.list. Use the MIRRORS_LIST env.
(2) Create downloads/aoo.mdtext file by
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
I think the trick is finding the right people, of connecting
volunteers with volunteer opportunities. Realistically, if someone
was really interested in tech writing, they probably would not be on
this list. The traffic
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:05 PM, MJ Ray m...@debian.org wrote:
Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
I'm jumping in and speaking as a mentor of AOO and ASF VP of
Community Development.
Thanks - and just to be clear, I'm only speaking as an ordinary
contributing member of SPI, who felt
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
I just published a piece on ComputerWorld titled Is OpenOffice.org an
Apache project yet? [1]
In this piece I examine what the common behaviours found in a typical
Apache Top Level Project are and comment on how
From QA perspective, I think we need to build up the QA project and process
asap. Automation framework and test tool should be available soon for all
tester in this project.
Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji
On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:32 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
I'm already starting to get questions on
In addition, QA site is too old and need updated.
2012/5/2 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com:
From QA perspective, I think we need to build up the QA project and process
asap. Automation framework and test tool should be available soon for all
tester in this project.
Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
On 05/01/12 12:20, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
...
For larger contributions, an ICLA (or an SGA) is in order. Ditto for
smaller ones, if there are questions/concerns. Remember, any
committer can veto a patch. So incoming
Welcome Luiz,
Great timing. AOO3.4 is almost complete and planning is starting for
upcoming releases.
For my part, I've recently joined the project and will be focusing on the
user experience design and product direction.
Your experience and background could be of huge assistance to the UX
Hello All,
From a UX perspective, we need a story about how people use our product in
the context of their lives. Features lists are good for planning, but alone
aren't enough to understand how we will deliver a compelling offering that
helps people do the stuff they want to get done.
Who are
Do you like to write and tell stories? Do you want to bring an Apple-like
approach to designing our products? AOO UX could use your support.
To better understand how people integrate our product into their lives, the
UX sub-community is looking to author a series of stories and usage
scenarios.
Kevin,
On 1 May 2012 23:11, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you like to write and tell stories? Do you want to bring an Apple-like
approach to designing our products? AOO UX could use your support.
To better understand how people integrate our product into their lives, the
Hi Kevin,
This is an interesting topic. I am keen to write stories on using AOO for
work.
Could you provide more details?
Cheers
Minsk
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts
lsuarezpo...@gmail.comwrote:
Kevin,
On 1 May 2012 23:11, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com
On 05/01/12 21:42, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
On 05/01/12 12:20, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
...
For larger contributions, an ICLA (or an SGA) is in order. Ditto for
smaller ones, if there are questions/concerns. Remember, any
committer can
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
I think you are just trying to find some silly excuse to complain
about code that *you* clearly didn't write or own. All the code
either from version control or bugzilla was provided by Oracle
That is not what was said in
The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has
concluded.
The ballot passed.
VOTE TALLY
+1:
IPMC members:
+1 Marvin Humphrey
+1 Dave Fisher
+1 Jim Jagielski
For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev
congratulations!
2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com
The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has
concluded.
The ballot passed.
VOTE TALLY
+1:
IPMC members:
+1 Marvin Humphrey
+1 Dave Fisher
+1 Jim Jagielski
For reference see also the vote
Agree with having a maintenance branch for traslation and critical bug fix.
It is time to unlock the code base to allow contributors to submit
improvments for later release.
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
1) We want to have a
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
On 04/29/12 23:55, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
...
I think it all depends on how fast we plan to release 4.0.
It looks likely that merging Symophony may be easy for the
IBM guys, since symphony already updated theit base OOo,
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