Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?

2012-10-31 Thread Yue Helen
Just found this thread...it's a very good discussion. It will help people like me to understand the community much more easily, and to find people who have the same interest. How is this work going? Helen 2012/10/25 Sylvain DENIS > Big thanks, Rob > > > librement, > > *Sylvain DENIS* > /Expert

[VCLAuto] SayHello dosn't quit AOO at the end

2012-10-31 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi at all The SayHello Script dosn't quit AOO at the end, while other scripts do this. This left the soffice process behind and can make trubble. Greetings Raphael -- My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-31 Thread Peter Junge
On 11/1/2012 2:18 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 10/30/2012 5:35 PM, Peter Junge wrote: I will not be in person in Sinsheim, hence we'll need one, better two moderators for that BoF session. The initial tasks seems quite simple. It's just saying hello to the attendees, making a short statement what

Re: [DISCUSS] IDE, comment translation, debugging, documentation and other development issues

2012-10-31 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 30/10/2012 Joost Andrae wrote: [Damjan] Many comments are in German. Are translations to English welcome or should we leave them as is? German comments are present within code that hasn't been touched for a long time. OK, but if a developer bumps into German comments while investigating co

Re: Updating ooo-dev list subscriber stats -- need assist from list moderator

2012-10-31 Thread Dave Barton
Original Message From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:56:00 -0400 > This page here: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ooo-dev-subscribers.html > > I'd like to update this one a month. Now seems like a good time. > > This is really, really

Re: extensions and translations.

2012-10-31 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/27/2012 01:17 AM, schrieb jan iversen: I see, I have to get used to this license issues (a long time ago I believed open source was just open source, then I joined an apache project). never mind. Would it be to our advantage if we offered third party developers (that is how I see extensio

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-31 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/31/2012 11:36 AM, jan iversen wrote: +1 to your 3 layer strategy. I have made a proposal for the wiki page, however I am not competent to fill in the tasks. http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Communication/new_contributors&action=submit I have NOT linked it in anywhere, but a

Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-10-31 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > >> >> On 12-10-31, at 14:17 , Andrew Rist wrote: >> >>> >>> On 10/31/2012 8:54 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 10/30/2012 04:14 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: > > On 10/30/2012

Updating ooo-dev list subscriber stats -- need assist from list moderator

2012-10-31 Thread Rob Weir
This page here: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ooo-dev-subscribers.html I'd like to update this one a month. Now seems like a good time. This is really, really easy to do. All that is required is to update this CSV file in Subversion and publish it on the website: http://www.openoffice.org/st

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-31 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Roberto, On 12-10-31, at 15:14 , Roberto Galoppini wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> On 29/10/2012 Roberto Galoppini wrote: >>> >>> A more diverse and sustainable project. For example, until few years >>> ago having OOo integrated or at least able to interoper

[question] build infra structure.

2012-10-31 Thread jan iversen
Hi I have been searching for detailed internal information about how the build process works with build and dmake (gnumake). I have seen the relationship in the single directories (prj/build.lst prj/d.lst and makefile.mk), but I cannot find a central makefile. If I understand life, there should

Re: [QA Report]Weekly Defect Analysis Report as of 2012/10/29

2012-10-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Ji Yan wrote: > Hi Rob, > Sure I can update this chart in my weekly report, please let me know how > to do. > 1. Where should I upload the data to > 2. What the numbers mean, e.g. 2012-08-01,2316,1208, does this mean in 2012 > Aug, 2316 defects opened and 1208 fi

Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-10-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > >> >> On 12-10-31, at 14:17 , Andrew Rist wrote: >> >>> >>> On 10/31/2012 8:54 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 10/30/2012 04:14 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: > > On 10/30/2012

Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-10-31 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12-10-31, at 16:24 , Dave Fisher wrote: > The thread name is correct. This is old business.. Yes and no. You seem to miss my point. I'll rephrase it. Old business: cleaning up and clarifying the status of the domains associated with OpenOffice.[xy] New business: reconsidering the purpose

Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-10-31 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > On 12-10-31, at 14:17 , Andrew Rist wrote: > >> >> On 10/31/2012 8:54 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 10/30/2012 04:14 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 10/30/2012 1:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > Looking at old threads, I'm

Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-10-31 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12-10-31, at 14:17 , Andrew Rist wrote: > > On 10/31/2012 8:54 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >> >> On 10/30/2012 04:14 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: >>> >>> On 10/30/2012 1:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Looking at old threads, I'm a bit confused about the outcome of this one: http://markma

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-31 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 29/10/2012 Roberto Galoppini wrote: >> >> A more diverse and sustainable project. For example, until few years >> ago having OOo integrated or at least able to interoperate with SAP >> was a distinct dream, is there any chance we can hav

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-31 Thread jan iversen
+1 to your 3 layer strategy. I have made a proposal for the wiki page, however I am not competent to fill in the tasks. http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Communication/new_contributors&action=submit I have NOT linked it in anywhere, but a natural link would in "participation" on the ma

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-31 Thread Andrew Rist
On 10/30/2012 5:35 PM, Peter Junge wrote: I will not be in person in Sinsheim, hence we'll need one, better two moderators for that BoF session. The initial tasks seems quite simple. It's just saying hello to the attendees, making a short statement what the session is about, then kicking off t

Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-10-31 Thread Andrew Rist
On 10/31/2012 8:54 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 10/30/2012 04:14 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 10/30/2012 1:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Looking at old threads, I'm a bit confused about the outcome of this one: http://markmail.org/message/ldigtivvyy2su62u Currently some of the ".com" domains don't e

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-31 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12-10-31, at 02:48 , Kevin Grignon wrote: > Great discussion on an important topic. > > If I may, I'd like to add a ux perspective. > > Support and help systems are very important and necessary, however, my goal > is to mitigate the need to such assets at the tool level. For example, > rath

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:46 PM, jan iversen wrote: > Hi. > > I think your md pages are SUPERwhat I suggested was an additional wiki > page (actually someone else called it postoffice) where we put small tasks > that need to be translated / written etc. > > So I see your pages go hand in hand

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-31 Thread jan iversen
Hi. I think your md pages are SUPERwhat I suggested was an additional wiki page (actually someone else called it postoffice) where we put small tasks that need to be translated / written etc. So I see your pages go hand in hand with Wiki pages, just too different levels of interaction with th

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 10/28/2012 04:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti >> wrote: >>> >>> On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: New Volunteer Orientation root page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeo

Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-10-31 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/30/2012 04:14 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 10/30/2012 1:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Looking at old threads, I'm a bit confused about the outcome of this one: http://markmail.org/message/ldigtivvyy2su62u Currently some of the ".com" domains don't even show up on the DNS radar, and on the oth

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-31 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/28/2012 04:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: New Volunteer Orientation root page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ This is an excellent resource. But we received a few requests from pro

Re: [DISCUSS] IDE, comment translation, debugging, documentation and other development issues

2012-10-31 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Damjan; > > From: Damjan Jovanovic ... >Hi > >AOO is by far the biggest and most complex code I have ever hacked on, >and I have many questions... > It is indeed big and hairy. I have only done rather simple tasks like updating modules. > >Searching with grep

Re: Looking for guide to debug with MS Visual Studio Express

2012-10-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 10/31/12 12:59 PM, Andor E wrote: >> Hi, >> I have some doubts, that Visual Studio Express will work. The debugger >> of VS Express is limited severly in comparison to VS Professional. >> I have also just looked it up and Remote Debugging

Re: Apache Asia Roadshow 2012 - Dec 13th Beijing

2012-10-31 Thread Peter Junge
@All: Given the fact that we're constantly cross-posting: is there any preference to limit the discussion to one of the list or shall we continue like that? Hi Simon, comments below: On 10/31/2012 7:16 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Peter, Please see my comments below: 2012/10/31 Peter Junge ma

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-31 Thread jan iversen
Ok, I thought "team" meant language teams. But I have searched the Wiki and cannot find any documentation on the required QA procedure relating to national languages. Can it be, that it was never really defined and written down ?? For code, there seems to be guidelines, but also no real definitio

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-31 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/31/12 12:18 PM, jan iversen wrote: > I do not understand the release discussion assuming juergen is right. or I have misunderstand your question ;-) I think we as AOO can define how we do QQ and how we want to ensure the quality of our releases. Besides the functional aspects here we have t

Re: Looking for guide to debug with MS Visual Studio Express

2012-10-31 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/31/12 12:59 PM, Andor E wrote: > Hi, > I have some doubts, that Visual Studio Express will work. The debugger > of VS Express is limited severly in comparison to VS Professional. > I have also just looked it up and Remote Debugging doesn't work in VS > Express. That's what I would have used.

Re: Looking for guide to debug with MS Visual Studio Express

2012-10-31 Thread Andor E
Hi, I have some doubts, that Visual Studio Express will work. The debugger of VS Express is limited severly in comparison to VS Professional. I have also just looked it up and Remote Debugging doesn't work in VS Express. That's what I would have used. So if you can, get a copy of VS Professional. O

Re: [Call-for-Review][Basic] Bug 76852: incorrect conversions Single to String and Double to String

2012-10-31 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 30.10.2012 20:13, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: Hi all Can you please help review my patch (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=79839&action=diff) to bug 76852 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=76852)? A detailed analysis of the problem and explanation of the solution

Re: Looking for guide to debug with MS Visual Studio Express

2012-10-31 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 31.10.2012 12:35, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi all, I read that debugging with MS Visual Studio works well. Is there somewhere a guide for dummies how to do it? The following steps should give you a start: - Have your AOO build installed on the system. - Build the module of interest with

Looking for guide to debug with MS Visual Studio Express

2012-10-31 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, I read that debugging with MS Visual Studio works well. Is there somewhere a guide for dummies how to do it? Kind regards Regina

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-31 Thread jan iversen
I do not understand the release discussion assuming juergen is right. why don't we ask each team to send a mail confirming they have made QA then we would release the language packs officially (at least this time) this would also give us time to discuss the ideal situation. juergen: you will (ho

Re: Apache Asia Roadshow 2012 - Dec 13th Beijing

2012-10-31 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Peter, Please see my comments below: 2012/10/31 Peter Junge > Hi Simon, > > > On 10/30/2012 11:25 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: > >> Peter, >>Please see my comments below: >> >> 2012/10/29 Peter Junge >> >> Hi Simon, >>> >>> >>> On 10/26/2012 9:48 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: >>> >>> Don & Peter,

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-31 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/30/12 4:22 PM, jan iversen wrote: > Question: Is there a rule in "the apache way" defining who can do QA, or is > it totally up to the single teams ? It's up to the teams I think > > Do we use the "review statistic" in pootle to anything, it seems actually > quite clever. we don't make us

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-31 Thread Ian Lynch
On 30 October 2012 22:13, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Graham Lauder > wrote: > > The launch of 4.0 is a unique opportunity in the life of AOO both now and > > far into the future. > > > > > > Perhaps sound out some sponsors for a prize > > The Fedora Design Bounties

Re: [DISCUSS] IDE, comment translation, debugging, documentation and other development issues

2012-10-31 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 10/31/12 12:14 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > Hi Damjan, > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 07:44:06PM +0200, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: >> Hi >> >> AOO is by far the biggest and most complex code I have ever hacked on, >> and I have many questions... > > true, but you managed to get your first patc

Re: how can i do to have the odfValidator source because of source code url doesn't work

2012-10-31 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, first of all this is a mailing list and you don't receive any replies if you are not subscribed or the sender put you on cc (as I did ) The ODFToolkit project moved over to Apache as well and the project can be found today under http://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit/ And the sources for the

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-31 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 29/10/2012 Roberto Galoppini wrote: A more diverse and sustainable project. For example, until few years ago having OOo integrated or at least able to interoperate with SAP was a distinct dream, is there any chance we can have the right SAP people to attend the AOO BoF, and discuss about this?