g
and Publicity in advance of its distribution."
How can that work flow be conciliated with press releases or other infos
released in languages other than English?
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d PLIO (before it became a
not-for-profit association, in 2005).
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mphony GUI?
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ens in OOo 3.3:
http://www.letturefantastiche.com/romanzi/old_default.jpg
Here it is how the default search window should open when the user has
previously selected an extra option:
http://www.letturefantastiche.com/romanzi/new_default.jpg
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Il giorno Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:38:27 +0100
Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto:
> I don't have the jira issue in place but I think that this way
> of bundling the pre-built binary extensions is allowed.
There is this:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117
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users, in my opinion.
Is there a near deadline for "speaking up"? :-)
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up in "factions", than
what I expected. :-P
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aries.
When is AOO 3.4 RC expected?
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t-en-fixed
say that it's US-spelling only?
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+ English only).
So you can keep things how they are now.
Anyway, it would be interesting to me to know why the "en" dictionary has
not a nation suffix even though it seems being an American English
dictionary only.
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would be very useful, IMO, to avoid misunderstandings.
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an."
"Can I still distribute a copy of Apache OpenOffice? Yes you can and you
are even freer. Read more [link]."
It should be a "FAQ for the average Joe", absolutely no legalese involved,
unless a distributer wants more info about brands, names and so on.
Regards
fore downloading what the
package exactly includes.
Anyway, for its inclusion into the Italian binary and from my point of
view, this package is better than what I thought since it includes the _GB
variant. :-)
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2011/9/21 Pedro F. Giffuni
> If some of the dictionary files can be relicensed under
> an Apache License I would consider including them there
> too but I would prefer to keep any copyleft stuff out of
> the new project.
>
BTW, is there any idea here about how to manage the dictionaries that we
2011/9/22 Pedro F. Giffuni
The case of the italian support is indeed "special",
> and is something I am particularly interested in. The
> linguistico project seems to be particularly political:
> they have this long discourse on how "OpenSource is
> evil, free is good". Maybe the author of the or
Rob Weir ha scritto:
Individual dictionaries, however, can have their own license as you
know. So there may be some that we cannot include in the release, but
we can still point the user to.
Opera browser uses the same dictionaries of OOo and there is a dedicated
wizard that allows the user t
Il 25/10/2011 14.04, Pedro Giffuni ha scritto:
The issue with bittorrent is that it has become nearly illegal in
some countries. I heard about someone being visited by the
police in Italy.
There is always "somebody" visited by our Polizia Postale. ;-)
Indeed, the software is legal, of course. I
Hi Pedro,
2011/11/5 Pedro Giffuni
> Hi Andrea;
>
> I have been looking at the situation of the dictionaries,
> and particular the italian dictionary.
>
> You are right that it will not be covered by the SGA.
> Perhaps more worrying is that the italian dictionary is
> the only dictionary under th
Pedro Giffuni ha scritto:
Copyleft imposes restrictions on software and when you
try to impose your "freedoms" to other people, the result
ends up being less free. We respect copyleft, but we want
more.
Well, I understand your point.
I created a new dictionary from scratch because the author of
Rob Weir ha scritto:
1) The user can download the dictionaries onto their own machines, if
they agree to uphold the license.
2) We could have a UI in the product that helps the user download
dictionaries. This could state the license and require the user to
click "agree".
Like I've wrote to Ped
Firstly, thanks to Eric for the explanation.
I'm not a developer so, it's rather important that I understand how the
whole thing technically works. :-)
More comments follow below.
eric b ha scritto:
3) at buildtime, the content of every locale is zipped as an extension
At least this is what
Olivier R. ha scritto:
(I am not even sure that Myspell can use UTF-8 files.)
AFAIK, Myspell doesn't support UTF-8. At least this is what Kevin
Hendricks said several years ago:
http://markmail.org/message/wya3mihuqmmqjxle#query:+page:1+mid:jxvevm2ugemrjwpq+state:results
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Pedro Giffuni ha scritto:
There is however, for practical purposes, a huge difference
for us between MPL/LGPL (the french case) and GPL-only (the
italian case).
Well, the Italian dictionary in his long history has been distributed
under SSIL, LGPL+GPL, LGPL only, GPL only, and as you know, recen
Pedro Giffuni ha scritto:
1) We have buildbots.
2) If a volunteer offers a binary for a platform
we dont support, or an extension, we still
have to control its content and GPLd stuff will
not be carried by Apache servers.
3) We could provide a link to a third party site
though (Apache-Extras or w
Rob Weir ha scritto:
3) We can link to (but not host) 3rd party builds and distributions
based on our source code releases. These 3rd party builds could
include GPL/LPGL items. If you look at a typically Apache project,
like Subversion, you see a large number of links to externally hosted
binar
Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto:
Of course, this could be made more user-friendly, prompting the user, on
application first run, if she or he wants to install a dictionary
extension for his language, etc.
Well, this was my first suggestion about this topic... ;-)
I'm just trying to find out wh
RGB ES ha scritto:
Please, correct me if I'm wrong but AFAIK only a few dictionaries were ever
bundled on OOo releases:
Well, the procedure for inclusion was usually a tiring and time
consuming "fight" with Sun legal department for a really simple
activity, so you're right, there were few dicti
Andre Schnabel ha scritto:
Yes, but this is very likely some gray area in copyright law. It would
be a very long and likely not very friendly discussion, to see if
translation is a creative process (producing an original work).
Just to give some free advice to common law citizens or other people
In data 13 novembre 2011 alle ore 18:39:34, Andrea Pescetti
ha scritto:
Note that full builds were only provided for languages that had attained
a satisfactory ( >80% ) percentage of interface translation. The other
languages relied on language packs only, but my concern is mostly for
us
In data 14 novembre 2011 alle ore 09:22:13, Andre Fischer ha
scritto:
I have removed the mysqlcppconn module which contained the MySQL
Connector/C++ because of its incompatible license. The MySQL connector
can still be built but the required libraries have to be supplied
externally.
Se
In data 14 novembre 2011 alle ore 11:26:57, Andre Fischer ha
scritto:
On
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/IP_Clearance+Impact
Uhm, it needs a huge update. ;-)
However, I think it's more important to update constantly this bugzilla
issue:
https://issues.apache.org/o
In data 14 novembre 2011 alle ore 12:02:18, Andre Fischer ha
scritto:
Good point. I have added messages for the libraries that I have been
working on.
This topic may worth a standalone thread in this mailing list, so that all
devs know the existence of such issue on bugzilla.
For exam
In data 17 novembre 2011 alle ore 16:41:42, Rob Weir
ha scritto:
I think we'll have an Apache 3.4 release early in 2012, maybe January
or February.
Is this a broad roadmap or just a thought?
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In data 17 novembre 2011 alle ore 22:26:18, Rob Weir
ha scritto:
I'm OK with that. This is what I was thinking of as #3 below. So
saying, "You do not have a dictionary installed, would you like to see
a list of 3rd party dictionaries?" is fine. You then can launch a
browser or have an in-a
In data 18 novembre 2011 alle ore 13:53:02, Rob Weir
ha scritto:
1) Pre-install extensions, both open source ones but also custom,
in-house extensions
2) Install custom document templates per corporate standards
3) Modify configuration settings, such as for default file format, etc.
It is goo
In data 18 novembre 2011 alle ore 13:13:30, Ariel Constenla-Haile
ha scritto:
comparing this list with the localize.sdf files in
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/extras/l10n/source/
every localized.sdf is included in the software grant.
Well, these are *really* good news.
O
Rob Weir ha scritto:
7luc...@openoffice.org
This is my own OOo email address, but it shouldn't exist anymore since
I've canceled my OOo account at least 3 years ago.
How can I know if that account (that had rather large admin rights for
several projects) is still somehow and *somewhere* "al
2011/11/21 Rob Weir :
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti
> wrote:
>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>> So in total, maybe something like:
>>> =
>>> Copyright © 2011 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.
>>
>> I'm not sure about this. Is there any code that is under the Apa
Il 24/11/2011 14.28, Andre Fischer ha scritto:
A. Download the extension (assuming that the right locale can be
detected) automatically from the extension repository during installation.
B. As last step of the installation, pop up a web page that, among other
things, tells the user that there is
Il 24/11/2011 15.01, Pedro Giffuni ha scritto:
I think we should keep the non copyleft dictionaries for
reference. I think that leaves us with English, Russian,
Croatian and I have an old italian version kindly donated
by Gianluca to the MySpell "pseudo-project" @Apache-Extras.
Please, keep in
Il 24/11/2011 16.24, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto:
hunspell/hunspell-1.2.8-thesfix.patch
hunspell/hunspell-mingw.patch
hunspell/hunspell-solaris.patch
hunspell/hunspell-stacksmash.patch
hunspell/hunspell-wntconfig.patch
hyphen/hyphen-2.7.1.patch
hyphen/hyphen-2.7.1-read-charset.patch
[...]
Il 24/11/2011 17.39, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto:
Dictionaries are developed by individuals/entities outside OOo,
they were never developed inside the OOo source tree. I'm not sure
what was the procedure (sure Gianluca can comment), but it seems like
these dictionaries were updated on reques
Il 24/11/2011 23.53, Mathias Bauer ha scritto:
It seems that you don't get the point. I just wanted to mention that the
dictionary files we have in svn can be seen as and*end product* and so
probably(!) are comparable more with a binary file than with a source
file.
Indeed, .dic files are "mun
Il 25/11/2011 9.00, Gianluca Turconi ha scritto:
Indeed, .dic files are "munched" word list that are compressed according
to the affixation rules included into the .aff files.
So, thoungh .dic files are simple text files, they aren't "sources"
because they are al
This message, as Andre Fischer suggested in the thread "GPL'd
dictionaries", is a separated discussion in order to find a final
consensus about how to provide Linguistic Tools replacements after the
removal of GPL'd modules.
The solutions that were suggested (though without volunteers' manpower
to
Il giorno Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:25:59 -0500
Rob Weir ha scritto:
> That is worth a try. Someone would need to enter a JIRA issue for
> this:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL
>
> If we do that, we'll have an answer within a week or two.
Andrea Pescetti could have already done it.
Il giorno Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:22:37 +0100
Andrea Pescetti ha scritto:
> These addresses are used by individuals from the Italian community
> and (except mine) they appear in the Italian site only. I contacted
> all of them and we will take care of replacing them on the web pages,
> as well as che
Il giorno Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:54:02 +0100
Andrea Pescetti ha scritto:
> Indeed it seems that Gianluca's account is still there; at least, I
> tried sending e-mail to luctur@ooo yesterday and it didn't bounce
> back.
I didn't received it in my normal account.
About the account deletion, I'm pre
Il giorno Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:28:45 -0800 (PST)
Pedro Giffuni ha scritto:
> I would think that we should keep the new icons but
> effectively color code them: it doesn't seem difficult
> to do in a first glance but ultimately this is a delicate
> issue that is likely to cause strong reactions in
Il giorno Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:47:02 -0800
"Dennis E. Hamilton" ha scritto:
> 2. Some (more) proof-of-concept sample documents that demonstrate
> such embedding need to be collected as test vehicles. [Any solution
> applies to all ODF formats - text, spreadsheet, presentation, ... -
> that have
Il giorno Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:49:52 +0100
"Marcus (OOo)" ha scritto:
> So, a +1 to keep the currenty design but to send them simply to a
> paint shop. ;-)
+1 for me too.
AFAIK, nobody ever complained about design but many people screamed out
loud for the missing color schema.
> So, you think t
Il giorno Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:58:50 -0500
Rob Weir ha scritto:
> So instead of fighting for control of the default icon set, think
> about making this flexible. What if AOO was "skinable" via
> extensions?
From my experience, the default icon set is what average user
mostly utilize.
Same thing
Il giorno Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:10:10 -0500
Rob Weir ha scritto:
> Yes, but the average user doesn't complain about the icon set on
> mailing lists.
There were *many* complaints on blogs, fori, usenet groups *and* mailing
lists.
As long as I can remember, there were more complaints only against t
Il giorno Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:12:26 -0500
Rob Weir ha scritto:
> And think of it this way: there may be other icon sets that are even
> more wonderful than the color icon set you want to change to. But
> today, changing to an entirely new icon set is a big political battle
> with the product.
Il giorno Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:26:02 -0500
Rob Weir ha scritto:
> The problem is a hard-to-change default is a control issue. And all
> control issues are ultimately political. I'm suggesting that we turn
> this into a trivial technical issue and let the user choose, rather
> than you and me.
I
Il giorno Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:24:16 -0500
Louis Suárez-Potts ha scritto:
> Hi, Gianluca,
> It's a pleasure to see you here again….
Hi, Louis!
Ten years passed away and we are still talking about OO. :-P
> Again, I think we have tabula rasa. But I also think that, as Rob
> reiterates, let's be
Il giorno Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:07:39 -0800 (PST)
Pedro Giffuni ha scritto:
> I never meant to volunteer for anything but I did note
> that reverting the Hg change was an easy solution: it
> is and I can do it if that is the consensus.
No extra work for you was intended in my words, of course. ;)
In data 16 dicembre 2011 alle ore 05:14:46, Dennis E. Hamilton
ha scritto:
The names "OASIS", "OpenDocument", "Open Document Format"
and "ODF" are trademarks of OASIS, the owner and developer
of this specification, and should only be used to refer to
the organization and its official
In data 17 dicembre 2011 alle ore 03:08:55, Rob Weir
ha scritto:
So if each application installs its own icons, then of course icons
will be application-specific. Needs no ghost from the grave to tell
us that. But we could just as well have multiple apps use the same
icons for the same file
Il 19/12/2011 15.32, Pedro Giffuni ha scritto:
If libreoffice takes the license headers it becomes an
Apache OpenOffice derivative, if it doesn't take them it's
still an OOo derivative and OpenOffice.org is an ASF
trademark anyways.
Pedro, it's rather important *when* a derivative is made.
Oth
ns is a easy way not to reinvent the
wheel, *again*. :-)
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In data 22 luglio 2011 alle ore 04:29:02, Dennis E. Hamilton
ha scritto:
Also, using ODF in those boxes is not exactly OOo branding. When OO.o
is registered to be the application that works with .doc, .xls, .ppt,
etc., what icons are used, do you know?
Same icons as in ODF docs, but wit
2011/7/22 Marcus (OOo)
> We need to be able to simultaneously develop alternatives on the design
>> front.
>>
>
> Yes, it would be a great help to our users if they can choose their
> favorite icon design. I could imagine a pool of the current B/W and the
> older colored icons with the option t
2011/7/22 Andrew Rist
> I think we need an approach for issues like the icon set that allow
> developers to produce,
> and the community to review, alternate sets of resources. It would be good
> to agree
> on a common set of design criteria (e.g. color differentiation, accessible,
> highlight
2011/7/23 Rob Weir
[...]
In other words, we need people to stand up and say, "I want to do X".
> "X" is then a proposal that is discussed. If there are no objections,
> then the person who volunteered to do "X" does it. (Lazy consensus).
> If the task is so obviously necessary that no one would
Hello,
2011/7/23 Rob Weir
> Was this a case of there not being enough volunteers to do the work?
> Or the work as already done, but the work as not being integrated into
> the build?
>
> There are really three kinds of proposals:
>
> 1) Good idea, and there are enough people willing to contribut
2011/7/24 Gianluca Turconi
There is also a OOo issue with a very long discussion about the topic. I
> don't remember its number. I'll try to search for it and then I'll post the
> URL if I'll find it.
>
I've found it:
http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.c
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