Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-03-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 27/02/2012 Andre Fischer wrote: Would it make sense to make localization a more continuous process? Like adding a step to the build server to collect new strings daily or weekly, upload them to the pootle server, and integrate any newly translated strings? It would be nice to have but not

Re: Localization process (Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release)

2012-03-03 Thread Paolo Pozzan
Il 01/03/2012 11:49, Andre Fischer ha scritto: On 29.02.2012 21:59, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 27/02/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 27/02/2012 Andre Fischer wrote: It would help me, for example, if you could describe the localization from you POV, like how you down- and later upload data

Re: Localization process (Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release)

2012-03-01 Thread Andre Fischer
On 29.02.2012 21:59, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 27/02/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 27/02/2012 Andre Fischer wrote: It would help me, for example, if you could describe the localization from you POV, like how you down- and later upload data from/to the pootle server. When do you start

Localization process (Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release)

2012-02-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 27/02/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 27/02/2012 Andre Fischer wrote: It would help me, for example, if you could describe the localization from you POV, like how you down- and later upload data from/to the pootle server. When do you start translation, how do you signal that you have finished

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-28 Thread Kay Schenk
2012/2/24 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Hi, we move closer forward to our first release. I would like to suggest that we focus on the following areas next week. And I would like to propose the following schedule depending on the progress we will make next week. Monday: Feb.

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-27 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/26/12 12:40 PM, Michael Bauer wrote: here we might run into a problem because of not having the translation process in place 100%. We have to figure out which translation data is the latest one, it's still not 100% clear if we really have it :-( Well, for starters, why don't we get the

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-27 Thread Andre Fischer
Hi Michael, On 26.02.2012 12:40, Michael Bauer wrote: here we might run into a problem because of not having the translation process in place 100%. We have to figure out which translation data is the latest one, it's still not 100% clear if we really have it :-( Your mails arrive

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-27 Thread Michael Bauer
Andre, Your mails arrive out-of-thread and I have no idea who wrote the sentence above. Could you check your mail client?That is a good idea. Please go ahead. The answer to your question is: I did not yet have time for it and nobody else did it. Therefore you are welcome to do it. -Andre

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-27 Thread Andre Fischer
On 27.02.2012 14:03, Michael Bauer wrote: Andre, Your mails arrive out-of-thread and I have no idea who wrote the sentence above. Could you check your mail client?That is a good idea. Please go ahead. The answer to your question is: I did not yet have time for it and nobody else did it.

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 27/02/2012 Andre Fischer wrote: It would help me, for example, if you could describe the localization from you POV, like how you down- and later upload data from/to the pootle server. When do you start translation, how do you signal that you have finished translating and the uploaded data is

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-27 Thread Michael Bauer
But this probably adds nothing to what you already know: in other words, the code-Pootle conversions have always been black boxes for translation teams. Regards, Andrea. Yes, that's (fortunately) been the case and should continue to be the case. And I am a developer with limited knowledge

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-27 Thread Andre Fischer
On 27.02.2012 15:55, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 27/02/2012 Andre Fischer wrote: It would help me, for example, if you could describe the localization from you POV, like how you down- and later upload data from/to the pootle server. When do you start translation, how do you signal that you have

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-27 Thread Michael Bauer
Would it make sense to make localization a more continuous process? Like adding a step to the build server to collect new strings daily or weekly, upload them to the pootle server, and integrate any newly translated strings? Regards, Andre Not on a daily basis. If you make things available for

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2012 schrieb O.Felka : Am 25.02.2012 01:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I would urge you to make sure you allow significant time for

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2012 schrieb Ross Gardler : On 25 February 2012 05:36, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comjavascript:; wrote: Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-26 Thread Michael Bauer
here we might run into a problem because of not having the translation process in place 100%. We have to figure out which translation data is the latest one, it's still not 100% clear if we really have it :-( Well, for starters, why don't we get the Pootle server up and running, enable all

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 25 February 2012 05:36, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I would

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-25 Thread Ross Gardler
On 25 February 2012 05:36, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I would urge you to make sure you allow significant time for IP review from mentors and

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-25 Thread Ross Gardler
On 25 February 2012 07:54, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: On 02/24/12 11:04, Ross Gardler wrote: Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I would urge you to make sure you allow significant time for IP review from mentors and the IPMC. I imagine this release will

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-25 Thread O.Felka
Am 25.02.2012 01:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I would urge you to make sure you allow significant time for IP review from mentors and the IPMC. I imagine this

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-25 Thread Ross Gardler
On 25 February 2012 16:56, O.Felka olaf-openoff...@gmx.de wrote: Am 25.02.2012 01:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@opendirective.com  wrote: Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I would urge you to make sure you allow

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-25 Thread Kay Schenk
2012/2/24 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Hi, we move closer forward to our first release. I would like to suggest that we focus on the following areas next week. And I would like to propose the following schedule depending on the progress we will make next week. Monday: Feb.

[RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, we move closer forward to our first release. I would like to suggest that we focus on the following areas next week. And I would like to propose the following schedule depending on the progress we will make next week. Monday: Feb. 27th new dev snapshots Monday: March 5th first RC

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 24/02/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: And I would like to propose the following schedule depending on the progress we will make next week. Monday: Feb. 27th new dev snapshots Monday: March 5th first RC candidate (based on the progress next week) This is (of course) great and exciting news. I

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 24.02.12 11:23, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi, we move closer forward to our first release. I would like to suggest that we focus on the following areas next week. And I would like to propose the following schedule depending on the progress we will make next week. Monday: Feb. 27th new

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: RC should be used indeed only if we think that it can be released, and this depends on the progress ;-) Perfect. Note that https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118895 is still not solved ... here we might run into a problem because of not having the

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/24/12 12:40 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: RC should be used indeed only if we think that it can be released, and this depends on the progress ;-) Perfect. Note that https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118895 is still not solved ... here we might run into a

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Fischer
On 24.02.2012 12:40, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: RC should be used indeed only if we think that it can be released, and this depends on the progress ;-) Perfect. Note that https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118895 is still not solved ... here we might run into a

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:28:54 +0100 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: Raphael, you should keep in mind that we had a 3.4 beta already last year. We have removed things or have replaced things. And for both do we have tested it since weeks. If we figure further critical issues

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/24/12 1:36 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:28:54 +0100 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: Raphael, you should keep in mind that we had a 3.4 beta already last year. We have removed things or have replaced things. And for both do we have tested it since weeks.

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Ross Gardler
Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I would urge you to make sure you allow significant time for IP review from mentors and the IPMC. I imagine this release will get a great deal of attention and, almost without a doubt, someone will come up with something that needs to

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I would urge you to make sure you allow significant time for IP review from mentors and the IPMC. I imagine this release will get a great deal of

Re: [RELEASE]: preparation for our first release

2012-02-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ross; On 02/24/12 11:04, Ross Gardler wrote: Without commenting on the dates, schedules and technical issues I would urge you to make sure you allow significant time for IP review from mentors and the IPMC. I imagine this release will get a great deal of attention and, almost without a