Help list openEHR procurements, related documents and things to think of!

2019-08-22 Thread Erik Sundvall
t may help many others in similar situations now and in the future. Hope to see some of you at Medinfo 2019 next week. Best regards, Erik Sundvall  Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010-1036252 in Sweden) RÖ:  erik.sundv...@regionostergotland.se<mail

openEHR modeling for physical activity data etc. from personal health platforms (like Google Fitness, Apple Health, Samsung Health, Withings, Garmin, Polar, Strava, MyFitnessPal etc.)

2019-07-10 Thread Erik Sundvall
://github.com/regionostergotland/openehr_definitions/tree/master/mindmaps Feel free to join the discussion and experimentation. Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010-1036252 in Sweden) RÖ:  erik.sundv...@regionostergotland.se

Automation with openEHR & SNOMED-CT ontology reasoning

2019-03-24 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi all openEHR+Snomed CT hackers! Doing the inference described below using a reasoner and openEHR with AQL+api calls as a bridge to EHR content would be pedagogical. Who in the openEHR community will get a demo video out first? Good luck with this little challenge! Best regards, Erik

Re: Unique paths for slots problem if slots are filled with same archetype

2018-11-06 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi all! The issue (and some possible solutions/workarounds) is now described at https://openehr.atlassian.net/browse/SPECPR-279 Feel free to add information, comments etc there. //Erik Sundvall 3 nov. 2018 kl. 15:12 skrev GF mailto:gf...@luna.nl>>: Either it is solve using standa

Re: Templates for application form development

2018-03-12 Thread Erik Sundvall
(See heading "OPT form renderer needed for pilot testing of surgery process supporting system" near the end of the page. Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010-1036252 in Sweden) Region Östergötland:

Re: Templates for application form development

2018-02-19 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! I agree that in many use-cases it is better to have a separate template intended for GUI/application hints overlayed on a "normal" data content definition template. (Quick experimentation may be an exception.) That is why I added "layers of templates" in my previous comment - sorry for not ex

Re: Templates for application form development

2018-02-18 Thread Erik Sundvall
ailing lists. //Erik (We should link to some old list posts on the topic in that wiki page Tom created) > > Gerard Freriks > +31 620347088 > gf...@luna.nl > > Kattensingel 20 > 2801 CA Gouda > the Netherlands > > On 18 Feb 2018, at 15:16, Erik Sundvall wro

Re: Templates for application form development

2018-02-18 Thread Erik Sundvall
interesting input for gathering requirements. //Erik Sundvall sön 18 feb. 2018 kl. 11:51 skrev Thomas Beale : > > > On 17/02/2018 20:11, Pablo Pazos wrote: > > I think SET has a lot of applications, including result > > sets. Of course that should interior from LOCATAB

Re: Announcing Archie version 0.4

2018-02-04 Thread Erik Sundvall
Great work! A very good contribution both as code (with widely usable licence) and in practice as a specification debugging effort! //Erik Sundvall P.s. Regarding Javascript I’d recommend looking at the related Typescript superset instead for anybody wanting to do implement openEHR RM or AM on

Re: Hand coding templates in ADL 1.4

2017-02-12 Thread Erik Sundvall
: - https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/display/dev/Online+archetype+and+template+tools and - https://twitter.com/marandlab/status/826832144672686081 Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010-1036252 in Sweden) Region Östergötland

Re: Converting Archetype into Nosql Schemes

2016-10-13 Thread Erik Sundvall
the native query language of your noSQL backend. Best regards, Erik Sundvall fredag 14 oktober 2016 skrev Eric Browne : > Hello Fadoua, > > Although I am not able to directly help with your request, you may be > interested in a tool to view/edit operational template XML files developed

Re: RM in OWL

2016-07-14 Thread Erik Sundvall
The master thesis of Roland Hedayat could also be of interest in this context, see http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:310787/fulltext01.pdf Copy of abstract text below. Best regards, Erik Sundvall Abstract Semantic Web Technologies in the Quest for Compatible Distributed Health Records

Personal Health Record using CHBase (related to Health Vault)

2016-05-30 Thread Erik Sundvall
due to legal restrictions etc. Of course that is an unnecessary detour in the cases when you are allowed to do direct native communication between openEHR systems.) (I guess this would be a suitable task for master-thesis students or beginning PhDs Best regards Erik Sundvall  Ph.D. Medical

Re: SNOMED

2016-04-29 Thread Erik Sundvall
cense, thus not stopping global use of Snomed-inspired archetypes.) Others will surely add more to the discussion. //Erik Sundvall Sent from mobile... fredag 29 april 2016 skrev Bert Verhees : > Part two is of course, generating templates, and we almost have the GUI's > in place. > &g

SV: CAMSS assessment of openEHR

2016-04-09 Thread Erik Sundvall
es actually assesing the clinical qualities of different approaches. That could be userful and interesting to look at. Best regards, Erik Sundvall Från: openEHR-technical [openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] för Ian McNicoll [i...@freshehr.com] Skickat:

Re: CAMSS assessment of openEHR

2016-04-04 Thread Erik Sundvall
ping also produces a lower number of surprising changes in implemented systems due to reduction of the, in other approaches more commonly occuring, finding of: "Ouch, I didn't consider that less common usecase when designing my initial datamodel". Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.

Re: RE: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-12 Thread Erik Sundvall
ough all xml databases we tested were not suitable for ad hoc epidemiological population queries (without query specific indexing). Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010-1036252 in Sweden) Region Östergötland: erik.sundv...@regionos

Advantage of ISO

2015-09-08 Thread Erik Sundvall
t governance become irrelevant. The potential confusing effect of what SA (share alike) on the archetypes legally means for some kinds of use inside non-open-source systems is another, probably more burning issue that has already been discussed, I'll try to avoid that thread right now. //

Re: Advantage of ISO

2015-09-04 Thread Erik Sundvall
ions. On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Erik Sundvall wrote: > Thank you Ian, that was a very constructive contribution to the > discussion. I had started writing a response with some of those thoughs: > > Since this issue of "ownership" keeps coming up, let's deal wit

Re: Advantage of ISO

2015-09-04 Thread Erik Sundvall
ming up were easier to understand some years ago before openEHR, as now, had several different (often competing) companies and organizations inside specification comittee and management. Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010

Re: difference and relationship between openEHR and EN13606

2015-08-26 Thread Erik Sundvall
to down-vote it, but I think this discussion shows it to be useful, so maybe that can change. //Erik onsdag 26 augusti 2015 skrev Erik Sundvall : > By the way feel free to add some of the > > onsdag 26 augusti 2015 skrev Erik Sundvall >: > >> Hi! >> >> Wher

Re: difference and relationship between openEHR and EN13606

2015-08-26 Thread Erik Sundvall
By the way feel free to add some of the onsdag 26 augusti 2015 skrev Erik Sundvall : > Hi! > > Where can one find proposals/diagrams describing the refreshed RM > (reference model) in the new 13606 revision? Will 13606 keep using the > old data types or harmonize more with

Re: difference and relationship between openEHR and EN13606

2015-08-26 Thread Erik Sundvall
to "simplifying" the RM (or perhaps moving complexity to another meta/design-pattern layer) I think CIMI has gone further than 13606. Are there any plans of aligning 13606 with CIMI? //Erik Sundvall onsdag 26 augusti 2015 skrev Kalra, Dipak : > Dear Ian, > > Thanks al

AQL ANTLR4-grammar

2015-08-23 Thread Erik Sundvall
eas and experiences you have regarding AQL parsing/implementation/translation etc. Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010-1036252 in Sweden) Region Östergötland: erik.sundv...@regionostergotland.se (previously lio.se) http://www.re

Re: ADL versions 1.4, 1.5 and 2.0

2015-08-22 Thread Erik Sundvall
web-client source code has been moved to the right place, we'll post info to the lists. Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010-1036252 in Sweden) Region Östergötland: erik.sundv...@regionostergotland.se (previously lio.se)

Re: VERSION.lifecycle_state options

2015-07-09 Thread Erik Sundvall
previously signed version. To me it seems natural that binding contracts and signatures belong together. Heath's use-case "something to indicate a version was moved distinct from deleted" won't be solved by signatures though, so https://openehr.atlassian.net/browse/SPECPR-83

CRUD Restlet

2015-01-18 Thread Erik Sundvall
obably a or registry id-query resource/"service" in your case) by chopping of the last piece of the URL, for example http://example.org/registry-x/ or http://example.org/registry-x/id/ if that is what you want to know the status/availability of. Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Me

CRUD Restlet

2015-01-17 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! Some more thoughts regarding specific questions: On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Bert Verhees wrote: > > Another reason why it is wrong to misuse the HTTP-status for communicating > application errors is that there can be only one HTTP-status, and an > application may want to communicate mo

CRUD Restlet

2015-01-17 Thread Erik Sundvall
issues with applying REST to openEHR (or similar archetype based systems) and exemplifies things where REST could to be complemented by e.g. websockets and message brokers: *Applying representational state transfer (REST) architecture to archetype-based electronic health record systems* Erik Sundvall

Upcoming EHR procurment in Sweden

2015-01-16 Thread Erik Sundvall
rket and by marketing actions of involved players. This message contains no secrets so feel free to forward it to other persons and organisations. Good luck to both vendors and requirement gathering staff! Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-7

Does anyone implemented a transformation between AQL and XML?

2014-12-28 Thread Erik Sundvall
engine :-) Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010-1036252 in Sweden) Li?: erik.sundvall at regionostergotland.se (lio.se changing name 1 Jan 2015) LiU: erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at

[openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and join up now.

2014-12-28 Thread Erik Sundvall
Send out nomination reminders regularly (perhaps including a list of the then nominated persons) Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or 010-1036252 in Sweden) Li?: erik.sundvall at regionostergotland.se (lio.se changing

New online archetype and template tooling project

2014-10-20 Thread Erik Sundvall
e that we after these first meetings (1-3) can start seeing clusters of interests/components that we can focus smaller teams and meetings around and then reduce the frequency of big general-purpose meetings. Small meetings with fewer participants are also easier to host in Google Hangouts and s

New online archetype and template tooling project

2014-10-10 Thread Erik Sundvall
els. This mail is cross-posted to both the implementers and the technical lists, but please respond and discuss the project only on the implementers list openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org or/and on the project wikipage mentioned above. Best regards & happy hacking, Erik Sundvall (Coo

Licensing of specs and artifacts

2014-10-02 Thread Erik Sundvall
Phew? amazing if you had the energy to read all the way down to here. Tom, regarding what it means to sell Share-Alike (SA) artifacts, I think you can compare that to http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html Best regards, Erik Sundvall Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-

How to start

2013-08-15 Thread Erik Sundvall
> On 08/08/2013 21:27, Erik Sundvall wrote: > > Hi! > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Lexis Nexis > wrote: > > Is there a tutorial book I can purchase or some examples? Step-by-step > tutorial is best. > > Skim through the > documenthttp://www.openehr.org

How to start

2013-08-08 Thread Erik Sundvall
unning. Try running and modifying AQL queries on the provided example content for example. Best regards, Erik Sundvall Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 LiO: erik.sundvall at lio.se http://www.lio.se/Verksamheter/IT-centrum/ LiU: erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ P.s. to list readers: I

TDS (and TDD) implementations?

2013-05-30 Thread Erik Sundvall
t familiar with the approach: http://www.mz.gov.si/fileadmin/mz.gov.si/pageuploads/eZdravje/Novice/gradiva_predstavitve_dogodkov/Open_EHR/7_integration.pdf ) Best regards, Erik Sundvall Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 LiO: erik.sundvall at lio.se http://www.lio.se/Verksamheter/IT-centrum/ LiU: erik.sundvall

New ADL/AOM proposals to solve some old problems

2013-04-25 Thread Erik Sundvall
estion could make some implementation parts easier and some a bit trickier. Best regards, Erik Sundvall LiO: erik.sundvall at lio.se http://www.lio.se/Verksamheter/IT-centrum/ LiU: erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ P.s. [/daydreaming] It might be interesting to connect a future u

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-16 Thread Erik Sundvall
e for more detailed discussions and potential cooperation. A bit wiser from my work with the repeatedly delayed REST implementation and publication approach, I'd prefer to do such experimentation in an incremental, multi-site, open, public way instead of only having a big publication/delivery

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-15 Thread Erik Sundvall
u have event classes and you have persistent classes, well described in > the pdf. A persistent class would be something like a current drug list. > Actually they are instantiations of the same COMPOSITION class, just with different values for one of the attributes. Best regard

openEHR Subversion => Github move progress

2013-03-25 Thread Erik Sundvall
cies at universities and other places are not always guaranteed to maintain old URLs and content. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Thomas Beale < thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com>

Nice GDL work! + Now let's not repeat 'Desperately seeking data'. Time to reduce technical debt in local archetyping?

2013-03-12 Thread Erik Sundvall
rm refsets) will immediately benefit the development of rules. > Perhaps an openEHR GitHub repository dedicated to GDL rule sharing, divided into suitable subdirectories, can be a fast and good start for rule sharing to begin with while considering other potential solutions? Best regards,

Regarding new CKM version webservice

2013-03-08 Thread Erik Sundvall
rolled URIs. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733

Questions about commit and AUDIT_DETAILS

2013-01-30 Thread Erik Sundvall
Ooops, accidentally sent unfinished mail... see additions below. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Erik Sundvall wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Thomas Beale < > thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: >> >> The point isn't for the

Questions about commit and AUDIT_DETAILS

2013-01-30 Thread Erik Sundvall
to other organisations that you are sharing EHR extracts with. 2) Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openeh

PhD thesis online: Scalability and Semantic Sustainability in Electronic Health Record Systems

2013-01-27 Thread Erik Sundvall
e interest in online participation or in getting a recording.) Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 Abstract This work is a small contribution to the greater goal of making software systems used in healthcare more useful and susta

Questions about the XSD-files.

2012-11-28 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! I see several use cases for sending and storing XML pieces smaller than compositions etc as valid XML documents. What about creating a separate (but official) file with those root elements in the same namespace as the other schema components? That way implementers can choose if they want that

Understanding how to commit contributions to an EHR Server with XML

2012-10-08 Thread Erik Sundvall
www.openehr.org/wiki/download/attachments/786486/EEE-v1.xsd?version=1&modificationDate=1349637658932 ...as described in my mail 12 hours ago, did that mail reach the list? Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 -- next par

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-10-07 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM, David Moner wrote: > 2012/9/13 Erik Sundvall > >> It would be great if e.g most of the future ISO 13606 version could be a >> true subset of openEHR instead of the current confusing situation. > > > This is something I discusse

Understanding how to commit contributions to an EHR Server with XML

2012-10-07 Thread Erik Sundvall
need a personal login to our tiny demo-server.) Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:13 PM, pablo pazos wrote: > Hi all, > > I found there is no CONTRIBUTION XSD defined on the openEHR XDS, and

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-09-13 Thread Erik Sundvall
sed HL7 v2 3. The number of vendors we want to join the openEHR approach in the future is _a lot bigger_ than the ones that have existing openEHR-based production systems. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 -- ne

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-09-06 Thread Erik Sundvall
aiming for somewhat global adoption... Resisting change favors old implementors with existing systems, but simplifying/strengthening models and thus future implementation (and maintenance), makes life easier for new actors wanting to enter the openEHR scene. So there is probably no neutral ground ;-)

Github repositories for openEHR

2012-07-12 Thread Erik Sundvall
join that mailing list if you are interested in contributing to the discussion. Whatever criteria we end up with will then be discussed with the openEHR board. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733

SMART platform and RDF

2012-07-05 Thread Erik Sundvall
regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Kathrin Dentler wrote: > Dear all, > > Here in Amsterdam we are working on expressing archetypes as OWL graphs, > and actually I think that it would be ideal

How about creating an openEHR test base?

2012-05-07 Thread Erik Sundvall
efforts (terminology, RM-instance-examples etc) me might as well start there (perhaps as a separate subproject). Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733 > We have already discussed last week with Rong & Sebastian about moving the &g

How about creating an openEHR test base?

2012-05-07 Thread Erik Sundvall
rhaps write a shared academic paper about it) - If so let's first check/discuss some of the options for data entry and once that is fixed we can involve more clinicians to create and improve/review the stories. A shared set could be reused in several projects and make them more comparable too. Be

13606 revisited - list proposal

2012-03-27 Thread Erik Sundvall
Thanks! On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:53, Erik Sundvall wrote: > When looking for the "summary" attribute (an ITEM_STRUCTURE) I found > that it was missing some of my diagram printouts. ... On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 16:54, Thomas Beale < thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com&

13606 revisited - list proposal

2012-03-27 Thread Erik Sundvall
age 25 ind that document and missing on all relevant diagrams (including mine) on http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/spec/openEHR+2.x+RM+proposals+-+lower+information+model That can definitely be confusing. Or have I missed something else? Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at l

https://github.com/openEHR

2012-03-01 Thread Erik Sundvall
the admin Tom? Perhaps we could try to get several openEHR projects connected to the organisation account (after some discussion first of course). Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733 P.s. Software interested tech-list subscribers

openEHR - Persistence of Data

2012-02-17 Thread Erik Sundvall
nformed! Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733

Python / Django experience??

2012-02-08 Thread Erik Sundvall
e global future change-tracking and merging problem needs to be considered at an early stage, but I am sure that I don't see the whole picture or all problems myself yet, so let's think together. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13

Python / Django experience??

2012-02-07 Thread Erik Sundvall
or regional developer organisations in a way that is a lot harder with centralized approaches like Subversion, the current CKM etc. It's hard to describe, but techies can have a look at some active projects at Github to get a feel for it. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http:

Python / Django experience??

2012-02-01 Thread Erik Sundvall
ted the above to be visible on the future-sensing radar for tech-list subscribers. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org

pass_through and implementation directives in general

2012-02-01 Thread Erik Sundvall
and XML serialization approaches to increase readability. But let's not do anything like that for ADL now. Maybe those of us that are interested in e.g. XML and YAML (that already have built-in prefix/namespace mechanisms) could look at this later. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at l

pass_through and implementation directives in general

2012-01-31 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 13:44, Thomas Beale < thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > If going for an RDF-like URI based approach for "program directives" or > "implementation_directives" then those serialization formats that aim for > human readability (e.g. ADL and YAML) may want to

pass_through and implementation directives in general

2012-01-31 Thread Erik Sundvall
he human readable stuff. Could anything from the following list inspire somebody with a more native feel for English to come up with alternate name suggestions? - directives (shorter and more general than "program directives"). - instructions - notes - meta...something - commands - p

pass_through and implementation directives in general

2012-01-30 Thread Erik Sundvall
Please rewind to http://www.openehr.org/mailarchives/openehr-technical/msg05530.html and the followup messages in that thread. Using an RDF like URI-based approach still seems to be an option. No registering hassle or new sections in adl, just alternate use of the existing annotation section. //

Did anybody implement AQL with a LL parser framework?

2012-01-05 Thread Erik Sundvall
also the modified grammar) will soon be open sourced so you are free to use it. So if you are not in an extreme hurry I'd suggest using or getting inspiration from what we have already done. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-28673

open source openEHR-related EHR systems; How do you want to be cited...

2012-01-04 Thread Erik Sundvall
eport any misunderstandings or comments to me or to the list. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:02, Erik Sundvall wrote: > Hi! > > We now getting the LiU EEE paper "Applying REST Arch

13606 revisited - list proposal

2011-12-19 Thread Erik Sundvall
edited there to add or change things in order to describe alternative approachess, and then pasted to http://yuml.me/diagram/scruffy/class/draw2 . So dig in and hack on... :-) Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 Diagram sour

13606 revisited - list proposal

2011-12-16 Thread Erik Sundvall
m from "the detailed clinically focused" RM (6 or 1b) to the "healthcare a-specific" RM (1a)? It would be nice to have the different parts "under the same roof", a revised 13606, since they could share an AM based on AOM 1.5. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733

13606 revisited - list proposal

2011-12-16 Thread Erik Sundvall
>> _implementations_ of change suggestions (both AM and RM) after initial >> discussions but before any revisions to the standard are made. That is >> how some other SDOs work with technical artefacts and it could avoid >> some of the previous suboptimal approaches. Gerard wrote: > So you agree with my NO. What NO? Please clarify. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733

13606 revisited - list proposal

2011-12-15 Thread Erik Sundvall
aches might not be helpful in that sense. Those of you having formal powers in each organisation please ask your leaders to speak as honestly and nicely as possible of each others organisations/communities/approaches, or else please change leaders. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-15 Thread Erik Sundvall
anguages they are already implemented :-) Then you configure them and then throw your object trees at them. An example of very unfinished work in progress, using poorly readable ordering and based on the openEHR java-ref-impl (and probably exposing too many fields) is attached below. Best rega

open source openEHR-related EHR systems; How do you want to be cited...

2011-12-12 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi Shinji! What is ths status of the Ruby implementation? Is it currently an EHR system where you can enter, store and retrieve EHR data, or is it an implementation of the RM+AM like the Java ref-impl, that can be used as a component to build EHR systems? Best regards, Erik Sundvall

open source openEHR-related EHR systems; How do you want to be cited...

2011-12-08 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! We now getting the LiU EEE paper "Applying REST Architecture to Archetype-based EHR systems" (by Erik Sundvall, Mikael Nystr?m, Daniel Karlsson, Martin Eneling, Rong Chen and H?kan ?rman) finished for submission, and in a background passage we mention other openEHR based EHR syst

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-07 Thread Erik Sundvall
rees and this is a bit worrying to me. I do still think there is enough people appreciating early open discussions and will try to continue along that path but try to remember tagging such sections with [Warning: may contain new thoughts] :-) Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-05 Thread Erik Sundvall
format) is clever enough to put the data into the right objects? There are some cases where different openEHR datatypes may have the same attribute signature and for those cases even transport formats aiming reduce verbosity will need to explicitly declare class type since they cannot be safel

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-05 Thread Erik Sundvall
SON would likely be good to have also for interoperability and debugging purposes. YAML for the RM would not be an obvious "over the wire"-format, but can be very useful for compact human readable long term EHR archiving storage as plain text files and for documentation examples. Best rega

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-02 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi! On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:36, Roger Erens wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 22:37, Erik Sundvall wrote: > > http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/2011/AOM-beauty-contest.html > > is the Javascript Object Dump missing regexps for 'address' and > 'electronic_commu

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-01 Thread Erik Sundvall
ional) start and end markers of documents that make life easier when concatenating streams/documents, see the YAML specification. Am I the only one that thinks YAML is more readable than dADL? Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-11-22 Thread Erik Sundvall
index.html and you can define your own if you need more. It seems like specification 1.1 (http://yaml.org/spec/1.1/) is the most implemented, so any dADL comparisons should probably be done towards that version to be fair. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~e

occurrences and cardinality in ADL, XML, JSON

2011-11-21 Thread Erik Sundvall
resentation of normal intervals will not use the same mechanisms > are you are proposing here? What about using?booleans in an?array/sequence? "inclusive": [true, false] ...meaning inclusive in lower but not upper end. But perhaps intervals need a completely different approach. Was tha

Bosphorus web services beta announcement

2011-11-15 Thread Erik Sundvall
figure 3 of http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/architecture/am/aom1.5.pdf that would be nice to be able produce online via http. Again, nice work! Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733

occurrences and cardinality in ADL, XML, JSON

2011-11-14 Thread Erik Sundvall
programming languages. Is there anything stopping us from having more than one serialization alternative per formalism, e.g. both verbose and compact XML? Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-286733 -- next part -- A

Instruction State Machine SCHEDULED -> EXPIRED

2011-11-12 Thread Erik Sundvall
de? I assume the EHR state for the action stays on SCHEDULED but having a passed date. Is that correct? If so I guess out-of-date-finding mechanisms need to look _both_ for EXPIRED-marked things and for SCHEDULED things past due date. Is that correct? Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sun

occurrences and cardinality in ADL, XML, JSON

2011-11-11 Thread Erik Sundvall
mething similar to the TDS (template data schema) approach? Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733

Questions about the necessity of ITEM_SINGLE

2011-10-05 Thread Erik Sundvall
to a 2.X based systems, I guess there aren't too many vendors involved... Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733 P.s. There was no way of specifying in jira that it could relate to a 2.0 release On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:32, Th

Tools for collaborative working

2011-09-19 Thread Erik Sundvall
;committers" from at least three different economically independent organisations. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733

future of CEN 13606 data types

2011-09-19 Thread Erik Sundvall
s mailing-lists/discussions? Other ways? Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733 On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 13:37, Thomas Beale wrote: > > At the HL7 meeting last week in San Diego, Grahame Grieve presented > something called Resou

openEHR Transition: two procedural and one licensing question

2011-09-12 Thread Erik Sundvall
es will want to know that no one has > recourse to legal action if they use an archetype. Is that a "copy" of the ideas behind my argument _against_ CC-BY-SA? :-) Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733

openEHR Transition: Web-based tools?

2011-09-11 Thread Erik Sundvall
the way, using Git as archetype repository sync backend at least for non-CKM work (as hinted by Shinji) seems to be a really nice idea the nore you look at it. The Git collaboration patterns and mentality seem to fit the use-case of distributed multi-branched archetype development. Best regards

Bosphorus Web Services and an open source communication layer for openEHR implementers

2011-09-07 Thread Erik Sundvall
Wonderful news Seref! I think we should take time to discuss some time soon in order to match efforts and reduce overlap. :-) I believe many things can complement each other nicely e.g. in a partly REST-based open source framework aimed for web-based approaches. // Erik On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1

openEHR Transition: two procedural and one licensing question

2011-09-07 Thread Erik Sundvall
proper chance for them to engage on the same premises as Ocean Informatics and UCL, but now it's about time to wake up :-) Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/? Tel: +46-13-286733

openEHR Transition Announcement (about regional/national openehr organizations)

2011-09-07 Thread Erik Sundvall
gar" should be translated to) - proper accounting and audit - a duty to have a dialogue with the central openEHR foundation regarding plans involving using the openEHR tradmark for events etc - ...probably more... For local organisations I think bottom up comunity driven governance with elected

openEHR Transition: two procedural and one licensing question

2011-09-06 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi Ian! Nice to have more than one single board member to actually discuss with on the lists, this is already a great openEHR improvement! On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 15:07, Ian McNicoll wrote: > The issue of CC-BY vs. CC-BY-SA has, of course, been extensively > discussed and although the previous bo

openEHR Transition: two procedural and one licensing question

2011-09-06 Thread Erik Sundvall
to have as much as possible of development completely public, indexed and archived by trusted sites (like http://www.archive.org/). This means always making sure to allow enough search engines and not requiring login in order to read archetype discussions and thoughts in development repositories (

openEHR Transition: two procedural and one licensing question

2011-09-05 Thread Erik Sundvall
to protect against.) There are many other interesting things to discuss and clarify in the white paper, but let's start here :-) Again, thanks for working towards a more understandable openEHR foundation. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-28

Archetype versioning on CKM

2011-06-14 Thread Erik Sundvall
might solve the "draft problem" discussed in this openEHR thread previously. (Provided that beta versions etc. don't get used/abused in live EHR systems.) The Semantic Versioning specification formalism is also machine processable in a nice way. Best regards, Erik Sundvall erik.s

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