Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] F*ck Yahoo, AOL get us back our mailing lists

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:48 PM, OpenIndiana Developer mailing list < oi-...@openindiana.org> wrote: > I don't f care about Yahoo and AOL mail settings, > we now have mailing list where Noone can se who is posting what message! > > I got under impression, that thing got fixed back. But I see again

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- > disc...@openindiana.org] > > Maybe best way IS ditching Yahoo and AOL. As has been discussed in this thread, Yahoo and AOL are merely early adopters of a change that's expected to grow and include ideally everyone

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/15/14 04:09 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- disc...@openindiana.org] The reason for the change is the yahoo DMARC policy change which results in There are already several misleading messages in this thread. People

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] F*ck Yahoo, AOL get us back our mailing lists

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- > disc...@openindiana.org] > > Replying to whoever said this... > > In principle I agree, however, someone else (can't remember) said > they'd been given admin rights and were working on fixing our

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] F*ck Yahoo, AOL get us back our mailing lists

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/22/14 05:28 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: let's have our mailing lists back! Let's BOUNCE Yahoo and AOL and have mailing list for normal mail providers. Replying to whoever said this... It's me, nikolam ;) In principle I agree, however, someone else

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] F*ck Yahoo, AOL get us back our mailing lists

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Thu, May 22 at 17:18, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: I don't f care about Yahoo and AOL mail settings, we now have mailing list where Noone can se who is posting what message! I got under impression, that thing got fixed back. But I see again new massages posted from Who know

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE: To live or to die

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 06/ 5/13 01:01 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: Yes, I think he has been banned or something. He twittered to that effect if you check. The details for donating should be on the iso or something. I think I saw he ,like, unsubscribed himself. If he was banned, that would be very bad and I think th

[OpenIndiana-discuss] F*ck Yahoo, AOL get us back our mailing lists

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
I don't f care about Yahoo and AOL mail settings, we now have mailing list where Noone can se who is posting what message! I got under impression, that thing got fixed back. But I see again new massages posted from Who knows who, because we dont'have FROM header anymore! This will KILL mailing

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 22/05/2014 4:15 AM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: When I gave you a copy of (a cut down version of) my main.mc you'll notice I use "procmail" as the local mail delivery agent, this is because I have procmail configured to use "Maildir" format. Maildir fo

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
I meant to say, that since the files are stored in the home directory, as long as you're mounting the same home directory it doesn't matter what server you are using procmail on, or in fact which server you run dovecot from. On 22 May 2014 09:15, Discussion list for OpenIndiana <

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 22 May 2014 01:13, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > Discussion list for OpenIndiana > writes: > > I think that about satisfies all my questions and I really am tickled > with all the excellent input. > > I love this lis

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Discussion list for OpenIndiana writes: I think that about satisfies all my questions and I really am tickled with all the excellent input. I love this list thanks folks. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 02:38:20PM -0400, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > Discussion list for OpenIndiana > writes: > > > > Local delivery only takes place on the central server, if that's what > > you mean. It's a benefit to have all the messages in

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/21/14 12:08, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > Specifically, I have never figured out how to force sendmail to respect: > > files dns > > in the /etc/nsswitch.conf file. If DNS is available, sendmail will always > use DNS. there's a reason for that. send

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
I guess I stuck my foot in my mouth here. :( Specifically, I have never figured out how to force sendmail to respect: files dns in the /etc/nsswitch.conf file. If DNS is available, sendmail will always use DNS. Jerry On 05/21/14 10:32 AM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Discussion list for OpenIndiana writes: [...] >> I read that your way was possible, and it is described in oracle docs >> and elsewhere... but the way its written, it sounded to me that using >> submit.cf only... forfeited any ability to send mail locally. > > Local deli

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 01:08:59PM -0400, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > Discussion list for OpenIndiana > writes: > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 05:41:44PM +0200, Discussion list for OpenIndiana > > wrote: > >> Le 2014/05/21 17:26 +0200, Discussion List For Ope

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Discussion list for OpenIndiana writes: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 05:41:44PM +0200, Discussion list for OpenIndiana > wrote: >> Le 2014/05/21 17:26 +0200, Discussion List For Openindiana a écrit: >> >The goal is to send any outgoing mail to another host on my home lan

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Discussion list for OpenIndiana writes: > Le 2014/05/21 17:26 +0200, Discussion List For Openindiana a écrit: >> The goal is to send any outgoing mail to another host on my home lan >> that relays it on. The lan host requires no auth and accepts mail >> from my lan. > &

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Discussion list for OpenIndiana writes: > a "main.mc" file from one of my servers (less all the LDAP stuff) ... > square brackets are your friends! (it means don't try and do a DNS lookup > on the host) Thanks for the great example... I will be trying some of it out

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 05:41:44PM +0200, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > Le 2014/05/21 17:26 +0200, Discussion List For Openindiana a écrit: > >The goal is to send any outgoing mail to another host on my home lan > >that relays it on. The lan host requires no auth a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Le 2014/05/21 17:26 +0200, Discussion List For Openindiana a écrit: The goal is to send any outgoing mail to another host on my home lan that relays it on. The lan host requires no auth and accepts mail from my lan. Easy. In a sendmail way of things. There are a couple of things , explained

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [smartos-discuss] Re: [developer] HBA recommended except LSI and ARECA

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/21/2014 10:24 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Basically GPL is an anathema to any project that doesn't share their ideology that ALL software must be free. I'd probably restate that is "... must be free in the same way." In many ways this is actually MORE restrictive than even proprietary co

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Discussion list for OpenIndiana writes: > If there is a way, I haven't been able to successfully get it to work. > What have you tried? I do relaying out of my desktop linux box to an online smtp.server. but have set other linux boxes to relay to an (non-dnsable) lan host. But that

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
a "main.mc" file from one of my servers (less all the LDAP stuff) ... square brackets are your friends! (it means don't try and do a DNS lookup on the host) VERSIONID(`@(#)main-v7sun.mc1.2 (Sun) 01/27/98') OSTYPE(solaris2.ml)dnl DOMAIN(solaris-generic)dnl #MASQU#ERADE_AS(saiman.co.uk) #MASQU#E

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
If there is a way, I haven't been able to successfully get it to work. Jerry On 05/21/14 10:15 AM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: So isn't there some way to make sendmail use the host files? I'm pretty sure nsswitch files all sa

[OpenIndiana-discuss] sendmail simple setup home lan

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
head -1 /etc/release OpenIndiana Development oi_151.1.9 X86 (powered by illumos) Having some trouble getting sendmail setup for what is probably one of the simplest possible configuration. The goal is to send any outgoing mail to another host on my home lan that relays it on. The lan host requir

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [smartos-discuss] Re: [developer] HBA recommended except LSI and ARECA

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Basically GPL is an anathema to any project that doesn't share their ideology that ALL software must be free. In many ways this is actually MORE restrictive than even proprietary code. Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2014, at 7:15 AM, "Joe Landman via smartos-discuss" > wrote: > >> On 05

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [smartos-discuss] Re: [developer] HBA recommended except LSI and ARECA

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2014, at 7:05 AM, "Zhiwen Zheng via smartos-discuss" > wrote: > > > 在 2014-5-21 上午12:15,"Keith Wesolowski" 写道: > > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:30:13PM +0800, Zhiwen Zheng wrote: > > > > > I tried to add suport for adaptec 6805H following the linux pm8001 d

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 21 May 2014 15:00, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > Somebody changed the list a couple weeks ago. So there must exist a list > > admin somewhere. > > > > If you need help, I volunteer. > > This is Edward Ned

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-21 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> Somebody changed the list a couple weeks ago. So there must exist a list > admin somewhere. > > If you need help, I volunteer. This is Edward Ned Harvey. It looks like they've taken me up on this offer, and I'm becoming a list administrator. Please stand by...

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pkg foo

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 20 May 2014 22:11, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > On May 20, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > > pkg -R /data/zones/wonderland42.apsalar.com/ro

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pkg foo

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On May 20, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > pkg -R /data/zones/wonderland42.apsalar.com/root update Thanks, this did the trick. Does attach -u only update a minimal required to boot the zone? I mistakenly assumed it updated the whole zone, which in retrosp

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pkg foo

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 20 May 2014 20:39, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > neither update nor install resulted in joy. > > Either brought me a couple of screen fulls of messages similar to these… > > do you have any other ideas? is the z

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pkg foo

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On May 19, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > ndeed, the pkg command was updated in the meanwhile. > You can probably update it from the global zone like this: > # pkg -R /path/to/zone/root install pkg > > (or perhaps "update" instead of "

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] HBA recommended except LSI and ARECA

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 02:49:15AM -0700, Fred Liu wrote: > Just like what Bob mentioned, the current pmcs(7D) in illumos cannot work > with 6H/7H > series of HBAs. Even replaced with SAS drives, the effort is still in vain. Are you sure the 6-series needs more than just PCI IDs? It's the same

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] HBA recommended except LSI and ARECA

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:30:13PM +0800, Zhiwen Zheng wrote: > I tried to add suport for adaptec 6805H following the linux pm8001 driver. Before I read the patch, I need to know whether you cut and pasted even a single line of code from the Linux driver. In general, you really want to do work l

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] HBA recommended except LSI and ARECA

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 12:10:24AM +0800, Fred Liu wrote: > I have a 6805H in hand and illumos can not detect it. But I don't have > experience > porting driver in FreeBSD it has to illumos. And I do NOT want to waste my > money.:-) > Therefore I would like to do anything to pursue this as long as

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] HBA recommended except LSI and ARECA

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 02:13:38AM +0800, Fred Liu wrote: > > That uses the PM8001, which I believe is the same ASIC I have direct > > experience with. So it would be good to look at too, yes. > > > > [fred]: gotcha! I will give it a try. Does it work well with commodity > > sata drives? Unknown

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] HBA recommended except LSI and ARECA

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 02:42:54AM -0700, Fred Liu wrote: > I haven’t got a sas drive to test. But the price delta between > sas and sata drive under the same capacity is not small like USD30 at all. ☹. I'll counter nebulous griping with hard data: http://www.costcentral.com/prod

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] HBA recommended except LSI and ARECA

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:13:49AM -0700, Fred Liu wrote: > Is 6805H/6405H(http://www.adaptec.com//en-us/products/series/6h/) worthy of > recommendation too? That uses the PM8001, which I believe is the same ASIC I have direct experience with. So it would be good to look at too, yes. _

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE: To live or to die

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Martin Bochnig martux.org> writes: > How to build stuff or packages? > As long as no sponsor helps us, maybe I never > release ANY src. If you wish more people getting an interest in your project, and to make your own development cycle much easier, i suggest you to bake and release into pu

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Somebody changed the list a couple weeks ago. So there must exist a list admin somewhere. If you need help, I volunteer. Contact me at openindi...@nedharvey.com or 1-781-281-8055 I've been a pro IT consultant for 13 years, with hundreds of deployments of linux, openindiana, opensolaris, mail

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
emember the past are condemned to reinvent it. ---- On Mon, 5/19/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Monday, May 1

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pkg foo

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Awesome. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone > On May 19, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana > wrote: > >> On 2014-05-19 18:54, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: >> >> >> i recently installed 151a8 and image updated to 151a9. I then migrated

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/19/14 07:38, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > DMARC was not created by Yahoo for Yahoo. They merely spent several months of > testing before turning on the reject policy. I have been using it for many > months on my private domains & get daily reports of forging att

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/19/14 03:39 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: I can't help noticing, nothing has changed on this list, and nobody has said anything to effect, "We're going to change something." I believe the list was left running on auto-pilot and there is no active commun

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
I can't help noticing, nothing has changed on this list, and nobody has said anything to effect, "We're going to change something." For me, (Edward Ned Harvey) this will be enough to kill my participation in the list. I guess I'll sit around as a passive observer for another week or something,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pkg foo

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 2014-05-19 18:54, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: i recently installed 151a8 and image updated to 151a9. I then migrated and updated zones from 151a1. All of the zones seem to now have broken package management. Any invocation of pkg responds with “pkg: No image found.” Is there

[OpenIndiana-discuss] pkg foo

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
i recently installed 151a8 and image updated to 151a9. I then migrated and updated zones from 151a1. All of the zones seem to now have broken package management. Any invocation of pkg responds with “pkg: No image found.” Is there some sort of process that I skipped? How can I fix pkg? than

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
DMARC was not created by Yahoo for Yahoo. They merely spent several months of testing before turning on the reject policy. I have been using it for many months on my private domains & get daily reports of forging attempts as they have been around since before the registrars were allowed to obfus

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-19 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 04:36:13PM -0700, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > > Whether other mail providers follow yahoo depends on how successful > the policy change is in reducing spam and spear phishing attacks. > When probably depends upon the speed with which the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-16 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Here is the official mailman page on the subject: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC It seems, the solution is to enable "from_is_list" so the message will actually send "From: Edward Ned Harvey via The List" and "Reply-To: Edward Ned Harvey " I know in the past, there was a lot of room fo

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana",...: sen...@yahoo.com posts to the list. The mailing list package forwards the post to all the subscribers. Everyone on the list EXCEPT the subscribers using yahoo.com will see the post. yahoo.com will

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/15/14 01:08 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: It works this way. sen...@yahoo.com posts to the list. The mailing list package forwards the post to all the subscribers. > Everyone on the list EXCEPT the subscribers using yahoo.com will see the post. and any other provider

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
, the mailing list gets the post. It's what happens next that poses the problem. Reg On Thu, 5/15/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: openindiana-discuss@o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 14-05-15 12:11 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: On 05/15/14 09:04, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: My immediate question is: how do others manage? I'm on the Samba, Apache lists: AFAICT, they work as usual. they have proper From: fields. That includes recent pos

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/15/14 09:04, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > My immediate question is: how do others manage? > > I'm on the Samba, Apache lists: AFAICT, they work as usual. they have > proper From: fields. That includes recent posts by addresses @Yahoo. > > What's the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Sorry, but you misread: I am asking about other *mailing lists*. They, the *mailing lists*, are receiving email from @Yahoo users. How? On 15/05/2014 19:17, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > u...@yahoo.com doesn't get any posts from other yahoo users. After a > certain number

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
u...@yahoo.com doesn't get any posts from other yahoo users. After a certain number of bounced emails, sen...@yahoo.com gets automatically removed from the mailing list. Reg On Thu, 5/15/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: Subjec

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
My immediate question is: how do others manage? I'm on the Samba, Apache lists: AFAICT, they work as usual. they have proper From: fields. That includes recent posts by addresses @Yahoo. What's the difference? Le 2014/05/15 17:57 +0200, Discussion List For Openindiana a écrit:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- > disc...@openindiana.org] > > The reason for the change is the yahoo DMARC policy change which results in There are already several misleading messages in this thread. People saying "can't use yahoo," a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 15/05/14 19:33, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: And they're free to do whatever they want. I hope we're not trying to solve the world's problem here. But right now, I would like the old way back on this list, whose subscribers really ought to be computer-skilled

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Any hardware snafus in this lineup?

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
The Lenovo TS140 has gone up in price at Amazon, the barebones version is now $350, but today only you can get it for $250 after rebate ($50) at Newegg. That's within a few dollars of it's lowest price ever. This a great price if you don't need IPMI (remote management) or VT-d support for virtualiz

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-15 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Le 2014/05/15 09:19 +0200, Discussion List For Openindiana a écrit: Whether other mail providers follow yahoo depends on how successful the policy change is in reducing spam and spear phishing attacks. And also depends on whether people go to other providers. Because it's all a balan

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Looking at CookHeaders.py in 2.1.18-1, it appears that it rewrites "Joe User" as "Joe User" via Discussion list for OpenIndiana and leaves From: alone if the domain does not implement p=reject. That's obviously not what is being done. Unfortunately, verifying thi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana",...: The reason for the change is the yahoo DMARC policy change which results in anyone using yahoo for mail to get bounced. So changing it back excludes anyone using yahoo from participating. To which most e

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Please google "yahoo DMARC". This has been widely written about during the last month. This is not yahoo only policy. They're just the first to implement it. Reg On Wed, 5/14/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 05/14/14 03:38 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: The reason for the change is the yahoo DMARC policy change which results in anyone using yahoo for mail to get bounced. So changing it back excludes anyone using yahoo from participating. Every mailing list has been similarly

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
m the mailing list admins. Reg -------- On Wed, 5/14/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" To: "'openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org'" Date: Wednesday, May 14, 201

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 14 May 2014 14:24, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > There is nothing wrong with using "tail -1" as Bob said. If the question > you're trying to answer, is "what's the latest snapshot of the specified >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Wed, 14 May 2014, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- disc...@openindiana.org] It seems that someone should bring up this issue on the zfs list. All of the proposed solutions have involved 'tail -1'. This is a no

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> > > It seems that someone should bring up this issue on the zfs list. All > > > of the proposed solutions have involved 'tail -1'. This is a > > > non-scalable solution which does not work efficiently for any number > > > of snapshots. > > > > What's wrong with it? > > > > Works for me, and alt

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 14 May 2014 12:27, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- > > disc...@openindiana.org] > > > > It seems that someone should bring up this issue on the zfs

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- > disc...@openindiana.org] > > It seems that someone should bring up this issue on the zfs list. All > of the proposed solutions have involved 'tail -1'. This is a > non-scalable solution which does not wor

[OpenIndiana-discuss] "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"

2014-05-14 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
It looks like, about a week ago, something was changed on the server that makes all messages say they're from "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" instead of saying who they're from. Would it be possible, pretty please, to put it back? If the desire is to filter messages,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-13 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
It seems that someone should bring up this issue on the zfs list. All of the proposed solutions have involved 'tail -1'. This is a non-scalable solution which does not work efficiently for any number of snapshots. Since it is such a common requirement, zfs should provide an efficient way to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-13 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana- > disc...@openindiana.org] > > On our backup servers I have a "backup-check" script that checks to see > what the last snapshot for a particular volume is (and compares it with the > current date) This i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-12 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
em name, leaving only the snapshot name. Tim On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 6:48 AM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > Most of my systems I do "zfs list -t snapshot > file" then grep that file > of each of the filesystems I am

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-12 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 08:07:11AM +0200, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > Regarding ethernet, you might give a spin to The Free Ethernet drivers for > Solaris project (i'm off the net and uncertain about the name now). In > particular, they had an alternative realtek (gani

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-12 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Most of my systems I do "zfs list -t snapshot > file" then grep that file of each of the filesystems I am interested in. John -Original Message- From: Discussion list for OpenIndiana [mailto:openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org] Sent: 12 May 2014 12:20 To: Discus

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding the "last" snapshot for a zfs volume

2014-05-12 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On our backup servers I have a "backup-check" script that checks to see what the last snapshot for a particular volume is (and compares it with the current date) df -F zfs -h |grep $mypool | nawk '{system("zfs list -t snapshot -r "$1" \| tail -1")}' | egrep -v "$yesterday|no datasets" okay, it's

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-12 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
11 мая 2014 г. 18:03:06 CEST, Discussion list for OpenIndiana пишет: >I managed to get OI installed on it. Gnome/Xserver does not work >properly, same for Wifi. >Ethernet is quite flaky. It's a start so the bug hunting begins. > >On another note I installed OI in Virtual

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-11 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
ll. I built illumos-gate in a zone in 171minutes which is not bad. On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 12:26:04PM +0100, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: > Perfect, found it. Thanks guys. Much appreciated. I should have search > harder. > > > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Discussion

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI mailing list settings changed?

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Reg ------------ On Fri, 5/9/14, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI mailing list settings changed? To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Friday, May 9, 2014, 11:30 AM I agree it's hard to work ou

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI mailing list settings changed?

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On Fri, May 09, 2014, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: ^^^ Hmm, sure... > Now it is impossible to understand who said what. You can probably thank DMARC and Yahoo for that -- it seems someone implemented a "workaround" to d

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI mailing list settings changed?

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
I agree it's hard to work out who has said what, unless they give their name each time (or have a relatively unique signature) Anonymous ;-P On 9 May 2014 17:24, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am usually rea

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI mailing list settings changed?

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Hi all, I am usually reading OI mailing list archives on site (rather than being subscribed to receive messages by email), and have noticed that all recent messages are marked "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" as sender, and not real names. Now it is impossible to understand who

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Perfect, found it. Thanks guys. Much appreciated. I should have search harder. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > the text-install is in Downloads under "OpenIndiana for servers" though. > It i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
the text-install is in Downloads under "OpenIndiana for servers" though. It installs a text-only OS, although you can add packages later ... Jon On 9 May 2014 12:22, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > On 09/05/2014 13:19,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 09/05/2014 13:19, Discussion list for OpenIndiana wrote: ... Shame there's no text-based install to get things off the ground. Was there one originally that was deprecated? Use the oi-dev-151a8-text-x86.iso image. -- Dr.Udo GrabowskiInst.f.Meteorology a.Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
was deprecated? On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > It's the ZFS and "pkg system" that will make it seem awful. > > both of them eat memory, ZFS silently in the background ... and as soo

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 9 May 2014 11:29, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > I was going to upgrade it to 2GB (maximum for these) but I don't have a > need for it at the moment. Debian + Gnome runs on it fine without issue. > > > On Fri, May 9, 201

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
I was going to upgrade it to 2GB (maximum for these) but I don't have a need for it at the moment. Debian + Gnome runs on it fine without issue. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > Ignore that, it doesn&#

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Ignore that, it doesn't look like the whole of lxde is there ... On 9 May 2014 11:17, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > lxde is in the SFE repository, you might want to look at using that since > it's a much lighter interface

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
lxde is in the SFE repository, you might want to look at using that since it's a much lighter interface (not that I have used it in a long time, or checked that it works recently) 1GB of memory isn't much to play with ... Jon On 9 May 2014 10:42, Discussion list for OpenIndiana <

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on a Samsung NC10 Netbook - Issues

2014-05-09 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Hi All, I'm a new OpenIndiana user and thought I would try to get it going on my Samsung NC10 netbook. I can successfully boot the live USB distro but the only option in the GRUB menu that works is the text-mode. This drops me to a console which I can login fine and otherwise everything looks neat

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] scsi_vhci

2014-05-08 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
10-hardware/19-seagate-constellation-es-3-firmware-0003 > > You will want to check that all your disks get their firmware updated, this > bug can take down your whole pool. > > -Chip > > > On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Discussion list for OpenIndiana < > openindi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] scsi_vhci

2014-05-08 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
HBA, lsiutils can be used to turn the lights on. > > However, I purchase santools for all my ZFS boxes, because it simply > makes > > life much easier to diagnose and locate disks. > > > > -Chip > > > > > > On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Discussion li

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] scsi_vhci

2014-05-08 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
he > sas expander it is connected to and bay number the disk is in. > > Assuming you have an LSI HBA, lsiutils can be used to turn the lights on. > However, I purchase santools for all my ZFS boxes, because it simply makes > life much easier to diagnose and locate disks. > > -Chip

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