If it is not a part of OpenJDK/Oracle JDK it will not work. Whether
Oracle itself maintains the code doesn't really matter I think, but
they have to put support and development in it.
To me another downside if Oracle would suspend further development is
that any statements made by Oracle se
Well, it is the official Swing replacement but look at Java 9 and you won't see
many if any enhancements to JavaFX. The point is Oracle has no interest in
desktop software other than maintaining any existing support contracts.
I don't even think Oracle wants JavaFX so it would be better for eve
Hi All
I find it remarkable to see that this debate about
innovation-versus-maintenance is similar to the one going on in the
Java EE space. See
https://java.net/projects/javaee-spec/lists/users/archive/2015-01/message/48
- Many Java EE experts, including myself, are now looking at the
application
Is it really true that *all* of JavaFX is open source?
Even if it is, if I wanted to say take some aspects of the product in a radical
new direction, wouldn't someone from Oracle have to approve the changes?
If yes, then only Oracle can bring the big enhancements that are necessary
which we kno
2015-12-01 14:03 GMT+01:00 Felix Bembrick :
> Is it really true that *all* of JavaFX is open source?
>
> Even if it is, if I wanted to say take some aspects of the product in a
> radical new direction, wouldn't someone from Oracle have to approve the
> changes?
>
> If yes, then only Oracle can br
Hi Dirk, all,
Although this person from Codename One attacked me a few times before
(using words like we're selling snake oil), I tried to ignore it. This is
very uncommon for the Java community. In the Java community, we have
different views, we prefer different technologies, but we show at least
As far as I know, all of JavaFX is open source indeed.
If someone wants to make a big change, e.g. create another rendering
pipeline, it is very well possible to do so. I would recommend submitting
that work back to OpenJFX, by following the same procedures for committing
to the OpenJDK project, b
I agree with Johan that there is a rich and vibrant JavaFX community and most
examples of its adoption are behind corporate firewalls.
But Johan, why would Oracle build a "JavaFX ecosystem" within Oracle and spend
millions on a product that earns them nothing? Surely that is not sustainable.
An
On 01.12.2015 14:22, Mario Torre wrote:
Btw, as a general note, I always find discussing about how impossible
any contribution is *without* first trying to contribute anything a
real waste of time.
For mailing list environments with a bad signal/noise ratio, I suggest
applying https://joeyh.
The switch to gradle 2.9 has been pushed to 9-dev as indicated in [1].
Anyone who has not yet updated to gradle 2.9 should do so within the
next two weeks.
-- Kevin
[1]
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2015-November/018210.html
Hi All
On 1 December 2015 at 13:27, Johan Vos wrote:
> Hi Dirk, all,
>
> Although this person from Codename One attacked me a few times before
> (using words like we're selling snake oil), I tried to ignore it. This is
> very uncommon for the Java community. In the Java community, we have
> diffe
How timely as I just posted that response and Dalibor's news just
arrived in the my inbox within 1 minute ...
#TLDR
JDK 9 will arrive 6 months later than expected 23rd March 2017 ... so
FX people go to work, really go work.
On 1 December 2015 at 17:12, Peter Pilgrim wrote:
> Hi All
>
> On 1 De
I assume you already opened a JIRA ticket and filed a reproducible test case,
so Oracle can fix the issue ASAP? ;-)
-Markus
-Original Message-
From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of
Daniel.
Sent: Montag, 30. November 2015 22:49
To: Florian Brunner
Cc
Speaking of promotion an VW, does it make the Golf an outdated car just because
they stopped TV marketing in Germany because their sales is running quite well
still? ;-)
-Original Message-
From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of
Tom Eugelink
Sent: Mo
With respect to TeamFX, the better question is: Are there plans to further
open the project so third party has an easier channel to contribute without
the hazzle of contributor agreements, JIRA accounts, and so on?
-Original Message-
From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.ja
On 01.12.2015 18:35, Markus KARG wrote:
With respect to TeamFX, the better question is: Are there plans to further
open the project so third party has an easier channel to contribute without
the hazzle of contributor agreements
"Like many other open-source communities, the OpenJDK Community req
I wonder why I was able to jointly assign my copyright with a lot of other
open source projects without having to sign papers, sent them in by fax,
wait for a written agreement, and pray to get a JIRA account... ;-)
See, I talked to a real lot of former JavaFX contributors in the past weeks
(visit
Things are not different for Apache projects. Google does not accept any
external contributions. The Linux kernel development is very tightly
controlled. We should stop considering that widespread open source policies are
only a problem with JavaFX. These policies are in place for a reason.
Her
On 01.12.2015 20:13, Markus KARG wrote:
anymore or AT LEAST vote and comment on existing tickets. Is the JavaFX team
clear about how many contributors you lost by that policy?
I think the number you're looking for is zero, judging by the number of
'Contributed-by' changesets in the rt reposito
The fact that there are other projects with equally bad or worse
contribution process does not make the JavaFX's any less bad. Yes, there
should be (strict) policies regarding code quality. The rest of the process
should be as easy as opening a pull request.
Tomas
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 2:18 PM,
We should ask ourselfs whether we want more contributions or not. We will not
get them until we change something. Most contributors in the Open Source just
want to drop a bug report or a feature or two, and multiplied by the number of
those guys, this is a lot of stuff. Only few contributors are
Dalibor,
exactly what I expected to hear from Oracle! You count the number of input
that actually made it through exactly that bureaucracy I am talking about
holding back contributors! Well done! Certainly the number is zero, that's
what I try to tell you.
I actually talk about those people that
The review process for external contributions does not even have to be
different from the internal review process. There can be a virtual
organization on GitHub called "Oracle CLA signatories". After a pull
request has been reviewed, all that the OpenJFX committer has to do before
merging is to che
Too bad that Github cannot fork mercurial repos. It would be interesting to see
the real number of pull requests such a fork would gain. Maybe Dalibor is right
and we would end up with zero? ;-)
-Markus
From: Tomas Mikula [mailto:tomas.mik...@gmail.com]
Sent: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2015 23:0
The proposed strategy also applies to bitbucket, which does have mercurial
support ;)
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Markus KARG wrote:
> Too bad that Github cannot fork mercurial repos. It would be interesting
> to see the real number of pull requests such a fork would gain. Maybe
> Dalibor is
Check in with the Adopt OpenJDK list, I know there's a few people who
pull source OpenJDK into Github -- it can't be that difficult. I'm sure
someone can help.
- Don
On 01/12/2015 5:16 PM, Tomas Mikula wrote:
The proposed strategy also applies to bitbucket, which does have mercurial
support
Volkswagen is doing a lot of research with JavaFX. For more than two years
now, it is their technology of choice for rapid HMI prototyping. The have
developed a framework–namely Tappas–entirely written in Java/JavaFX, which
already runs on embedded hardware, featuring a 3D map renderer.[1][2][3]
P
Felix Bembrick wrote:
>it makes them no money
>In my opinion, JavaFX should be jettisoned from the JDK
Like AWT or Swing, it plays in favor of Java adoption by
people looking for a portable way of doing something as
simple as lighting up a pixel - which are still, after all
these years, quite sca
Just to chime in on a couple of points that have been raised in this
discussion...
* We are interested in working with the OpenJFX community to improve
JavaFX. In particular: if you find a bug, file it (via bugs.java.com if
you don't have a JBS account); if you want to contribute a patch to fi
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