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2010-03-24 Thread Jason King
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought certain big customers required the certification. If so, that seems a surprising decision (though whether or not it's put through the tests and given an official stamp is probably not as much of a personal concern, and probably not something someone outside of

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2010-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
John Plocher john.plocher at gmail.com wrote: Worse yet (this is no surprise to most, I'm sure, but pity our poor users...): On your new OpenSolaris system, create a tar archive of, say, your web document root that you want to move over to another system: cd /export/website; tar cf

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2010-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren Reed Darren.Reed at sun.com wrote: I'm led to believe that OpenSolaris won't pass the testing required to be labelled Unix (the problems start with ZFS: there are parts of it that aren't POSIX compliant) and as far as I know, nobody is interested in doing so. This has been known for

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2010-03-24 Thread James Carlson
Darren Reed wrote: Octave, I'm led to believe that OpenSolaris won't pass the testing required to be labelled Unix (the problems start with ZFS: there are parts of it that aren't POSIX compliant) and as far as I know, nobody is interested in doing so. This has been known for quite some

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2010-03-24 Thread Octave Orgeron
Hi Joerg, Exactly! The default should be the Solaris userland and users can select the flavor they want by setting their path and other shell variables. It's a strength for Solaris/OpenSolaris, not some weakness. Means we're more compatible than Linux with the rest of the world:) I still

open source sed [PSARC/2010/086 FastTrack timeout 03/17/2010]

2010-03-24 Thread Sebastien Roy
On 03/10/10 07:28 PM, Garrett D'Amore - sun microsystems wrote: Provide an opensource version of /usr/bin/sed and /usr/xpg4/bin/sed +1 -Seb

PSARC 2010/096 Public Audio DDI

2010-03-24 Thread Sebastien Roy
Garrett, The only question I have on this case is how versioning works. Are there provisions in the API to handle drivers compiled on an older version by either failing gracefully or by transparently handling multiple versions? I can't tell from the materials if the audio_dev_set_version()

PSARC 2010/096 Public Audio DDI

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/24/10 07:01 AM, Sebastien Roy wrote: Garrett, The only question I have on this case is how versioning works. Are there provisions in the API to handle drivers compiled on an older version by either failing gracefully or by transparently handling multiple versions? I can't tell

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2010-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Milan Jurik Milan.Jurik at Sun.COM wrote: In case that /usr/gnu would not hide Solaris specific features like it is doing today, it is good solution probably. The problem is that /usr/gnu is doing that (e.g. ACLs or linker). It is broken architecture to hide significant features. Additionally

[ksh93-integration-discuss] PSARC/2009/414 _NOT withdrawn_ / was: Re: Some clarifications about --help and --man / Re: [busybox-dev]AST versions of fold, mktemp, pathchk, tty [PSARC/2009/414 Fas

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
The project team would like to restart PSARC 2009/414 with a modification that --man and --nroff will be removed. Since this is was the reason I originally derailed the original case, now that those contentious (to me at least) parts of the case have been removed, I think it is fair to return

[ksh93-integration-discuss] PSARC/2009/414 _NOT withdrawn_ / was: Re: Some clarifications about --help and --man / Re: [busybox-dev]AST versions of fold, mktemp, pathchk, tty [PSARC/2009/414 Fas

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
Sorry, I forgot to mention, --html (which is another format for man pages) was *also* removed from this case. -- Garrett On 03/24/10 08:10 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: The project team would like to restart PSARC 2009/414 with a modification that --man and --nroff will be removed. Since

PSARC 2010/096 Public Audio DDI

2010-03-24 Thread Sebastien Roy
On 03/24/10 11:02 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On 03/24/10 07:01 AM, Sebastien Roy wrote: Garrett, The only question I have on this case is how versioning works. Are there provisions in the API to handle drivers compiled on an older version by either failing gracefully or by transparently

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2010-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Garrett D'Amore gdamore at sun.com wrote: make? Yes, GNU make, which behaves in a fashion totally unlike Sun make. (Admittedly Sun make is in /usr/ccs/bin, not in /usr/gnu.) Let me also mention that GNU make implements a makefile parser that is not compatible with the POSIX

PSARC 2010/096 Public Audio DDI

2010-03-24 Thread Sebastien Roy
On 03/24/10 11:31 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On 03/24/10 08:19 AM, Sebastien Roy wrote: Right now the framework just ensures that the version number matches. Conceivably in the future this could be used to detect the need for, and enablement of, a compatibility layer perhaps like the GLDv2

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2010-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Garrett D'Amore gdamore at sun.com wrote: I don't mean for that at all. But the change of the default path is being handled as part of PSARC 2010/067 -- i.e. that is the case (and its still open) that started this whole mess. I'm not a fan of the fact that the case is closed, but I

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2010-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
John Plocher john.plocher at gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Garrett D'Amore gdamore at sun.com wrote: Again, I can't talk about the rationale for the bits that are closed being so. It is pretty clear that the reason it is closed is because Oracle feels the features,

Meeting Today?

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/24/10 09:14 AM, michael.kearney at oracle.com wrote: Are we having a meeting? -- Best Regards, Michael Oracle http://www.oracle.com Michael Kearney | Principal Software Engineer Phone: +1 3032722402 tel:+1%203032722402 | Fax: +1 3032726554 fax:+1%203032726554 Oracle Tikka

PSARC 2010/096 Public Audio DDI

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/24/10 08:50 AM, Sebastien Roy wrote: On 03/24/10 11:31 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On 03/24/10 08:19 AM, Sebastien Roy wrote: Right now the framework just ensures that the version number matches. Conceivably in the future this could be used to detect the need for, and enablement of,

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2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/24/10 08:57 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Garrett D'Amoregdamore at sun.com wrote: I don't mean for that at all. But the change of the default path is being handled as part of PSARC 2010/067 -- i.e. that is the case (and its still open) that started this whole mess. I'm not a fan

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2010-03-24 Thread Stefan Teleman
Garrett D'Amore wrote: The community has the ability to take those modifications, apply further modifications, or create a new head of tree (essentially a code fork). For example, Nexenta ships with a totally different userland. Which userland does Nexenta ship ? --Stefan -- Stefan

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2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/24/10 10:04 AM, Stefan Teleman wrote: Garrett D'Amore wrote: The community has the ability to take those modifications, apply further modifications, or create a new head of tree (essentially a code fork). For example, Nexenta ships with a totally different userland. Which

idmap: default unresolvable SID mapping to true [PSARC/2010/097 FastTrack timeout 03/26/2010]

2010-03-24 Thread Jordan Brown
This case was approved at today's meeting.

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Wyllys Ingersoll
://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-arc/attachments/20100324/1863c5b6/attachment.txt

PSARC 2010/096 Public Audio DDI

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
This case was approved at PSARC today. - Garrett

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2010-03-24 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 24/03/2010 17:04, Stefan Teleman wrote: Garrett D'Amore wrote: The community has the ability to take those modifications, apply further modifications, or create a new head of tree (essentially a code fork). For example, Nexenta ships with a totally different userland. Which userland does

[ksh93-integration-discuss] PSARC/2009/414 _NOT withdrawn_ / was: Re: Some clarifications about --help and --man / Re: [busybox-dev]AST versions of fold, mktemp, pathchk, tty [PSARC/2009/414 Fas

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
This case was approved at PSARC today, as modified (i.e. without --man, --html, or --nroff.) - Garrett

open source sed [PSARC/2010/086 FastTrack timeout 03/17/2010]

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
This case was approved at PSARC today. - Garrett

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Darren J Moffat
I see no major issues with this case. However the packaging will need to be different. Probably one of these: pkg:/library/security/openssl/perl/{aes,bignum,...} pkg:/library/perl-5/openssl/{aes,bignum,...} I think the second one is more likely as these are perl bindings for openssl. --

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Hai-May Chao
Darren J Moffat wrote: I see no major issues with this case. However the packaging will need to be different. Probably one of these: pkg:/library/security/openssl/perl/{aes,bignum,...} pkg:/library/perl-5/openssl/{aes,bignum,...} I think the second one is more likely as these are perl

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/24/10 11:07 AM, Hai-May Chao wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: I see no major issues with this case. However the packaging will need to be different. Probably one of these: pkg:/library/security/openssl/perl/{aes,bignum,...} pkg:/library/perl-5/openssl/{aes,bignum,...} I think the

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Hai-May Chao
Garrett D'Amore wrote: On 03/24/10 11:07 AM, Hai-May Chao wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: I see no major issues with this case. However the packaging will need to be different. Probably one of these: pkg:/library/security/openssl/perl/{aes,bignum,...}

OpenSolaris ARC Minutes - 03/24/2010

2010-03-24 Thread Asa Romberger
SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE COUNCIL Platform Software ARC - PSARC Regular Meeting time: Wednesdays 10:00-1:00pm in MPK17-3507. 03-24-2010 MEETING MINUTES

OpenSolaris ARC Agenda - March 31, 2010

2010-03-24 Thread Asa Romberger
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/edit/Community+Group+arc/ARCAgenda/ = OpenSolaris ARC Agenda = TELECONFERENCE NUMBERS: (866)545-5223 (Within US) (215)446-3661 (International) ACCESS CODE 939-55-86 Times are US/Pacific Timezone ARC meetings are recorded. 03/31/2010 No meeting

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Sebastien Roy
On 03/24/10 02:09 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That's fine with me, but you need to fix the Committed value for your package names -- clearly they are not Committed, since you know you'll be changing them soon. Package names should be no less than Committed, especially now that IPS can refer to

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Hai-May Chao
Sebastien Roy wrote: On 03/24/10 02:09 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That's fine with me, but you need to fix the Committed value for your package names -- clearly they are not Committed, since you know you'll be changing them soon. Package names should be no less than Committed, especially now

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:22:56PM -0400, Sebastien Roy wrote: On 03/24/10 02:09 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That's fine with me, but you need to fix the Committed value for your package names -- clearly they are not Committed, since you know you'll be changing them soon. Package names

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2010-03-24 Thread Darren Reed
On 24/03/10 04:26 AM, James Carlson wrote: Darren Reed wrote: Octave, I'm led to believe that OpenSolaris won't pass the testing required to be labelled Unix (the problems start with ZFS: there are parts of it that aren't POSIX compliant) and as far as I know, nobody is interested in

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/24/10 11:56 AM, Nicolas Williams wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:22:56PM -0400, Sebastien Roy wrote: On 03/24/10 02:09 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That's fine with me, but you need to fix the Committed value for your package names -- clearly they are not Committed, since you

Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:15:30PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On 03/24/10 11:56 AM, Nicolas Williams wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:22:56PM -0400, Sebastien Roy wrote: On 03/24/10 02:09 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That's fine with me, but you need to fix the Committed value for your

PSARC 2010/084 Perl Crypt bindings for OpenSSL

2010-03-24 Thread Sebastien Roy
On 03/24/10 03:15 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On 03/24/10 11:56 AM, Nicolas Williams wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:22:56PM -0400, Sebastien Roy wrote: On 03/24/10 02:09 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That's fine with me, but you need to fix the Committed value for your package names -- clearly

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2010-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren Reed Darren.Reed at sun.com wrote: POSIX is a pretty low bar. Heck, even Minix and VxWorks and some variants of Windows meet it. What you're saying appears to be quite incendiary, and rather a slap at the folks who worked on ZFS. Are you sure?

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2010-03-24 Thread Bart Smaalders
On 03/24/10 08:47, Joerg Schilling wrote: And BTW: I don't like to depend on a program that still comes with bugs that have been accepted as bugs by it's maintainers in 1998. The Solaris versions you know and love have many bugs filed against them, lots of them more than merely 12 years

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2010-03-24 Thread Darren Reed
On 24/03/10 01:00 PM, Bart Smaalders wrote: On 03/24/10 08:47, Joerg Schilling wrote: And BTW: I don't like to depend on a program that still comes with bugs that have been accepted as bugs by it's maintainers in 1998. The Solaris versions you know and love have many bugs filed against